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Ireland Under 20 2018 6 Nations and World Championships

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    #92
    Ayewserious
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    letf wrote: »
    Centres for Ireland u20 contention:

    Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
    Sean O'Brien(Leinster)
    Jay Moriarty(Leinster)
    David McCarthy(Munster)
    James Hume(Ulster)
    Corey Reid, James newey?


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    #93
    letf
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    Ayewserious wrote: »
    Corey Reid, James newey?

    Nothing at the moment suggests Newey will be involved with Ireland.

    Reid potentially a centre or a fullback.


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    #94
    letf
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    Wingers/Fullbacks for Ireland u20 consideration:

    Tom Roche(Leinster)
    Peter Sullivan(Leinster)
    Michael Silvester(Leinster)
    Peter Maher(Leinster)
    Thomas O'Callaghan(Leinster)
    Mark Keane(Ulster)
    Joe Finnegan(Ulster)
    Daniel Hurley(Munster)
    Mark Balaski(Connacht)


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    #95
    Stevie777
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    letf wrote: »
    Backrow for Ireland u20 consideration:

    Caelan Doris(Leinster)
    JJ O'Dea(Leinster)
    Richard Dunne(Leinster)
    Max Kearney(Leinster)
    Cian Reilly(Leinster)
    Conor Doran(Leinster)
    Will Fay(Leinster)
    Aaron Hall(Ulster)
    Joe Dunleavy(Ulster)
    Matthew Agnew(Ulster)
    Stuart Doddington(Ulster)
    Jack O'Sullivan(Munster)
    Jack Daly(Munster)
    Sean Duffy(Munster)
    David Robb(Connacht)

    What about Seam Masterson (Connacht)?


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    #96
    letf
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    Stevie777 wrote: »
    What about Seam Masterson (Connacht)?

    Yeah of course, forgot him.


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    #97
    letf
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    Quintis wrote: »
    Connacht seem very under-represented in each position?

    that because they don't have as much talent as the other provinces..


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    #98
    Ayewserious
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    letf wrote: »
    Wingers/Fullbacks for Ireland u20 consideration:

    Tom Roche(Leinster)
    Peter Sullivan(Leinster)
    Michael Silvester(Leinster)
    Peter Maher(Leinster)
    Thomas O'Callaghan(Leinster)
    Mark Keane(Ulster)
    Joe Finnegan(Ulster)
    Daniel Hurley(Munster)
    Mark Balaski(Connacht)
    I think James Taylor (u19) could make it


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    #99
    letf
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    Possible early 1st 23:

    1. Jordan Duggan(Leinster)
    2. Ronan Kelleher(Leinster)
    3. Jack Aungier(Leinster)
    4. John McCusker(Ulster)
    5. Jack Dunne(Leinster)
    6. Aaron Hall(Ulster)
    7. Sean Masterson(Connacht)
    8. Caelan Doris(Leinster)
    9. Jonny Stewart(Ulster)
    10. Conor Dean(Leinster)
    11. Daniel Hurley(Munster)
    12. Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
    13. James Hume(Ulster)
    14. Peter Sullivan(Leinster)
    15. Michael Silvester(Leinster)
    16. Alex Clarke(Ulster)
    17. James French(Munster)
    18. Tom O'Toole(Ulster)
    19. Ronan Coffey(Munster)
    20. Richard Dunne(Leinster)
    21. Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster)
    22. Angus Curtis(Ulster)
    23. David McCarthy(Munster)


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    #100
    letf
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    Ayewserious wrote: »
    I think James Taylor (u19) could make it

    as a winger/fullback?

    would be very surprising.


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    #101
    Ayewserious
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    letf wrote: »
    Possible early 1st 23:

    1. Jordan Duggan(Leinster)
    2. Ronan Kelleher(Leinster)
    3. Jack Aungier(Leinster)
    4. John McCusker(Ulster)
    5. Jack Dunne(Leinster)
    6. Aaron Hall(Ulster)
    7. Sean Masterson(Connacht)
    8. Caelan Doris(Leinster)
    9. Jonny Stewart(Ulster)
    10. Conor Dean(Leinster)
    11. Daniel Hurley(Munster)
    12. Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
    13. James Hume(Ulster)
    14. Peter Sullivan(Leinster)
    15. Michael Silvester(Leinster)
    16. Alex Clarke(Ulster)
    17. James French(Munster)
    18. Tom O'Toole(Ulster)
    19. Ronan Coffey(Munster)
    20. Richard Dunne(Leinster)
    21. Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster)
    22. Angus Curtis(Ulster)
    23. David McCarthy(Munster)
    Daniel Hurley missed a lot of rugby last year is in the sub academy ? Did he play for the development side over the summer?


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    #102
    letf
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    Ayewserious wrote: »
    Daniel Hurley missed a lot of rugby last year is in the sub academy ? Did he play for the development side over the summer?

    He is in the Munster Full Academy.


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    #103
    Ayewserious
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    There more than likely won't be any u19 in the 20s squad..?


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    #104
    Stephen Hawkins football boots
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    letf wrote: »
    Possible early 1st 23:

    1. Jordan Duggan(Leinster)
    2. Ronan Kelleher(Leinster)
    3. Jack Aungier(Leinster)
    4. John McCusker(Ulster)
    5. Jack Dunne(Leinster)
    6. Aaron Hall(Ulster)
    7. Sean Masterson(Connacht)
    8. Caelan Doris(Leinster)
    9. Jonny Stewart(Ulster)
    10. Conor Dean(Leinster)
    11. Daniel Hurley(Munster)
    12. Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
    13. James Hume(Ulster)
    14. Peter Sullivan(Leinster)
    15. Michael Silvester(Leinster)
    16. Alex Clarke(Ulster)
    17. James French(Munster)
    18. Tom O'Toole(Ulster)
    19. Ronan Coffey(Munster)
    20. Richard Dunne(Leinster)
    21. Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster)
    22. Angus Curtis(Ulster)
    23. David McCarthy(Munster)

    Surely Hugh O Sullivan to start one of the best schools players I have seen in a long time


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    #105
    letf
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    Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »
    Surely Hugh O Sullivan to start one of the best schools players I have seen in a long time

    Stewart would be favourite now considering he has experience at this level, although i'm sure Hughie will get a start at some stage.


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    #106
    letf
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    Ayewserious wrote: »
    There more than likely won't be any u19 in the 20s squad..?

    not many u19's standout as potential squad players right now.


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    #107
    Stephen Hawkins football boots
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    Considering Belvedere have been in last 3 schools finals winning 2 , why do they not have more representation in academies or ire u20 team? What happened to Jennings, De jong,McKeon and more? Just not good enough or quit?


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    #108
    The Lost Sheep
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    Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote:
    Considering Belvedere have been in last 3 schools finals winning 2 , why do they not have more representation in academies or ire u20 team? What happened to Jennings, De jong,McKeon and more? Just not good enough or quit?
    bit of both. Winning a schools cup doesn't mean huge amount. Better individuals from other clubs, schools. Some may not want to play at level to play Irish 20s or join academy and others just not good enough


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    #109
    Stephen Hawkins football boots
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    bit of both. Winning a schools cup doesn't mean huge amount. Better individuals from other clubs, schools. Some may not want to play at level to play Irish 20s or join academy and others just not good enough


    Fair enough I suppose they were 3 exceptionally well drilled well coached sides , just thought a few more would of kicked on


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    #110
    letf
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    The most talented players in those sides - Hugh O'Sullivan & David Hawkshaw will both make academy.. O'Sullivan already being in there.

    Other than that - Jennings/De Jongh not considered good enough. While McKeown spent last season in Australia.

    De Jongh should have tied to convert to hooker IMO.


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    #111
    Ayewserious
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    letf wrote: »
    not many u19's standout as potential squad players right now.
    Is that to do with the strength of the u20s this year or are the current u19 not up to much?


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    #112
    Ayewserious
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    letf wrote: »
    The most talented players in those sides - Hugh O'Sullivan & David Hawkshaw will both make academy.. O'Sullivan already being in there.

    Other than that - Jennings/De Jongh not considered good enough. While McKeown spent last season in Australia.

    De Jongh should have tied to convert to hooker IMO.
    Jennings would have been good enough for 20s last year and possibly a Connaught academy spot.


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    #113
    D14Rugby
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    Stephen Hawkins football boots wrote: »
    Considering Belvedere have been in last 3 schools finals winning 2 , why do they not have more representation in academies or ire u20 team? What happened to Jennings, De jong,McKeon and more? Just not good enough or quit?

    Jennings played for clontarf in the ail last year so him not even getting a look in at all is a bit odd, de jong played for old belvo seconds i think so not as weird not to see him at all but still a bit odd, no idea about mckeon. As to why they weren't considered for any squads i suppose the coaches are the only ones who can answer that properly.


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    #114
    letf
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    Ayewserious wrote: »
    Is that to do with the strength of the u20s this year or are the current u19 not up to much?

    The most talented u19's are mostly still in school, so therefore not eligible.

    I'm sure a few will be involved in wider squad - Harry Byrne, James McCarthy, Craig Casey are three pretty likely to be involved.


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    #115
    letf
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Jennings played for clontarf in the ail last year so him not even getting a look in at all is a bit odd, de jong played for old belvo seconds i think so not as weird not to see him at all but still a bit odd, no idea about mckeon. As to why they weren't considered for any squads i suppose the coaches are the only ones who can answer that properly.

    don't think Jennings had any interest in playing pro/academy rugby.


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    #116
    D14Rugby
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    letf wrote: »
    don't think Jennings had any interest in playing pro/academy rugby.

    Very possible it just isnt for some, thats why I said only the coaches could say for sure


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    #117
    Tarf1234
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    letf wrote: »
    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Jennings played for clontarf in the ail last year so him not even getting a look in at all is a bit odd, de jong played for old belvo seconds i think so not as weird not to see him at all but still a bit odd, no idea about mckeon. As to why they weren't considered for any squads i suppose the coaches are the only ones who can answer that properly.

    don't think Jennings had any interest in playing pro/academy rugby.
    I think there's a little bit of truth in that - plenty of people have fallen foul of the 20s over the years and I don't think  certain long term coach has helped that. It would appear most of that group found SCT fairly heavy going too when you look at the overall drop out rate. Jenno has started all of our games in so far this year. James McKeown is just back from Oz and has played in all 3 of our games so far and looks sharp (has scored 2 or 3 tries I think). Tom DJ is taking a year out from what I hear.


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    #118
    letf
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    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    I think there's a little bit of truth in that - plenty of people have fallen foul of the 20s over the years and I don't think  certain long term coach has helped that. It would appear most of that group found SCT fairly heavy going too when you look at the overall drop out rate. Jenno has started all of our games in so far this year. James McKeown is just back from Oz and has played in all 3 of our games so far and looks sharp (has scored 2 or 3 tries I think). Tom DJ is taking a year out from what I hear.

    lots of complaints about that coach, but everyone has to deal with him..

    Jennings/McKeown have talent for academy place... hope they go well this season.


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    #119
    Tarf1234
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    letf wrote: »
    lots of complaints about that coach, but everyone has to deal with him..

    Jennings/McKeown have talent for academy place... hope they go well this season.
    Completely agree still a pity they won't do anything about it. Jenno needs to settle down on a position as much as anything I think. I like him at 15 personally. I'm very excited to see how McKeown goes this year it's a shame he missed out on a cut at the 20s last year.


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    #120
    Ayewserious
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Jennings played for clontarf in the ail last year so him not even getting a look in at all is a bit odd, de jong played for old belvo seconds i think so not as weird not to see him at all but still a bit odd, no idea about mckeon. As to why they weren't considered for any squads i suppose the coaches are the only ones who can answer that properly.
    De Jong trained with the 20s during the six nations to cover injures


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    #121
    Ayewserious
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    letf wrote: »
    lots of complaints about that coach, but everyone has to deal with him..

    Jennings/McKeown have talent for academy place... hope they go well this season.
    'That coach'is highly rated and succesful


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