CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

super_furry wrote: »

I think there's going to be a looming mental health crisis off the back of all this. I don't suffer from anything personally but even I am starting to feel that black dog. Vulnerable people must really be feeling it now. It's bleak.

Unfortunately, my Dad, who has Aspergers and Bipolar I, has been swallowed up by this. He stopped taking hit medication to ration them out of fear of their being a shortage or that they would run out. I only found this out the other day when I got a call to tell me that he had made his way through the house he's living, taking every door off its hinges, including wardrobe, presses, etc He's manic, confused amongst other things. He had pages of newspapers on the walls of his bedroom. All filled with nonsense. I can guarantee that there a many just like him in our area, let alone the country.

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The WHO have not covered themselves in glory in all of this. They issued a number of confusing and in some cases idiotic directives which helped spread this around the world.

Truth, but I’d rather be working ‘with’ them than cutting them off at the knees, especially in a time like this.

UrbanFret wrote: »

That was 6 hours ago.

If it was already posted just say so:D

cameramonkey wrote: »

You are being deliberately disingenuous or you are uninformed, one or the other.This is the HSE wording on lab testing from 24 March "To date, 17,992 tests have been carried out in laboratories across the country, as of midnight last night.". To deduct the number of cases per week all one has to do is subtract that number from the following weeks number.



Again you are totally wrong HSE wording is "tests have been carried out in laboratories across the country, as of midnight last night.".These are the figures published weekly not swabbed.





My figures are correct you are making assumptions that are incorrect about what the HSE publish. They do not publish swab numbers they publish lab numbers.As I said they seem to have had lab results for about approx 896 per day average last week.

I genuinely think you are incorrect.

I have followed it daily from the early stages.The phrase most often used in press briefings is tests carried out.
If the phrase that is used in your quote above were correct i.e. laboratories in the country then the German lab results could not be included in the figures yet both the head of the HSE on Sunday and the CMO on Monday both said that the results from the German labs were included in the figures.
The rise in new cases from Friday would indicate that this is the case especially as the total number of positive cases from Germany was 469 or approx 117 per day.
The CMO also stated that the German lab results showed a 7.6% positive rate.This low percentage rate indicates that these tests were mainly from batches prior to 2 symptoms being required for testing as this rate is quite similar to the early testing.
In addition it was stated this evening that the overall case rate on the weekly increase in tests was in the region of 19.6%.If what you state is correct and the German figures of 6000 tests were stripped out from todays weekly figures it would leave the Irish test results showing approx 1850 positives from just over 6000 tests or 30% which is a rate not seen anywhere in the world.The only way the figures make sense to me is as I have outlined or have you an explanation that I might somehow have missed?

Unlike many on here I will be the first to apologise if I am incorrect.However it is the only way I can see for the figures to make sense.

I am not in any way being disingenuous.It is entirely possibility that one or both of us had been misled by the ambiguous way in which the data is presented and the differences between the written and the spoken word.

Trump

''The Flu is nothing to sneeze at ''

bekker wrote: »

In fairness they've always had that tendency, all that the Health Minister has done, albeit belatedly in my opinion, is to give effect to powers granted by the Oireachtas.

The danger signal will be if a FF/FG dominated coalition government ^seeks to ^ renew the powers beyond November '20 without overwhelming medical evidence supporting such an extension.

The Emergency Powers Act (1939) was introduced at beginning of WWII and the State of Emergency invoked Twas not rescinded till the late '70s. Under the Constitution a State of Emergency once declared remains in existence until officially rescinded by the Dáil.

Although not technically revoked, the powers granted by the emergency powers act were not used after the war, and certainly were not being used at the time it was revoked. The fact it was still in place was down to legal tardiness.

A state of emergency in the constitutional sense can only be invoked during a time of armed rebellion, inside or outside the country.

Trump quotes 2020 -> "flu is not to be sneezed at"

Do we really need a blow by blow of what Trump is saying on a thread about Ireland?

kowloon wrote: »

I've been putting serious thought into purchasing a portrait of my cat as a Napoleonic general.

I'm constantly fighting the urge to look sideways, whilst facially expressing resignation, at a camera that's not there, a la The Pink Panther (cartoon variety)

statesaver wrote: »

When Trump stopped flights from China around the 27th January Biden / Democrats called it xenophobia but now Biden agrees it was the right decision.

This is what Biden said.

“need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it.” He added, “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

I'm not completely comfortable with the new enforcement but I'm sorry if everyone(and to be fair the vast majority have) had bloody adhered to what we were asked to do a few weeks ago then this wouldn't have been necessary but shockingly some people believe they know better and will think of themselves and feck the rest. Hopefully the Gardai never have to actually use the powers they now have but given how people seem hell bent on going to places this weekend even after having been told not to for theirs and everyone's else's heatlh and wellbeing then my sympathy drops.

Logan Roy wrote: »

There's a lot of things we don't need in this thread. Feel free to leave if the current topic doesn't interest you.

Sorry I didn't realise you were in control of the thread..get a life:pac: