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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #5372
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 37,716 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Quantum Erasure wrote:
    That just isn't socially or economically possible. And even if it was, then what? Close all the borders?
    It's entirely possible if everybody sticks to the rules. It won't take long for this to happen if everybody sticks by the rules. If everybody had started on St Patrick's day we would be just over two weeks away now.
    That's of course if all those on the front lines had proper equipment to protect themselves.


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    #5373
    spookwoman
    Registered Users Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    be sure and pass the basket around

    Another drop in future collections, they'll be looking for more money to bail them out

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    #5374
    JDD
    Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭JDD


    Genuine question here. What are the chances, really, of catching a virus off someone sitting near you in a park, or walking past you up a hill, even if the area has a good few people around?

    If we really wanted to keep the infection rate low while opening up the restrictions somewhat, surely it would make more sense to allow only two visits per household to the supermarket every week, and then allow people to travel to the beach/park/countryside wherever that may be? There must be a much higher chance of catching it indoors rather than outdoors, and the supermarket must be absolutely rife with it, since that's the only place people can go right now. I know we had full intentions of just doing One Big Shop a week, but I find, because we're at home all the time, that we're topping up every day or couple of days.

    I just can't understand the outrage at people walking on the beach or up the hills before the full restrictions came in. Surely to God the chances of catching anything off a passerby outdoors is virtually nil? And if we're all to be doing this for another three months, there's going to have to be some relaxing of the rules, even in circumstances where the R0 rate hasn't dropped below 1, because otherwise you're going to find people flouting them altogether.


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    #5375
    Looney1
    Registered Users Posts: 122 ✭✭Looney1


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    England +828
    Scotland +70
    Wales +33
    Northern Ireland +5
    UK +936

    And that's only hospitals


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    #5376
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Family member tested negative a week and a half after death so we were able to have a funeral. There's much bigger issues in the world at the moment but I feel even moreso for anyone having a funeral at the moment. The previous funeral I was at had a minimum of 30 people at all times over an evening, the next day and the next morning. This one would have been similar but instead there were no more than a dozen or so at a time over the course of 3 hours. It was an open coffin which helps a bit but it still doesn't feel properly "done".
    Anyway, yeah, lot of ****ty things about this virus and lockdown but important to focus on the positives. Whether it's the dog getting knackered after chasing a ball twice because she's not used to the heat or sitting down to watch a TV show with other people in the house over ice cream or takeaway.


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    #5377
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Strumms wrote: »
    This, My OH is a psychologist and a friend too and they are seriously doubting his psychological health and wellbeing.

    We shouldn't forget that Trump doesn't operate in a vacuum. He is a figurehead for the political party he represents. A party which is beholden, not to the people of America, but to the corporate interests of those that fund it, who seek an edge in everything.

    That being said, the Democrats aren't any better in that regard.

    But Trump and the Republican's effort to sow division in any and all situations is truly appalling.

    I do actually think there's something deeply wrong with that creep though. Only someone with pure psychopathic tendencies (or an absolute idiot) could be that oblivious to the nonsense that he's being told to say.


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    #5378
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lwaker. wrote: »
    So I don't need the GP

    The pharmacy should just.extend.it?

    It's.for a.routine.type of medicine

    I'm on 2 medications and only had money for one a while back so got it. Went in for the other one a few days later and the chemist realised that I shouldn't have got the first one as my prescription was out. But gave me the second one anyway. They can be very picky sometimes but they have a lot of latitude in reality. Ring a few times and see what they can do, if it's something you get monthly they might just take it off your next 3/6 month script.


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    #5379
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    UK could have more deaths than Italy, Spain and Germany combined by August

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/uk-will-be-europes-worst-hit-by-coronavirus-study-predicts


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    #5380
    hotmail.com
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    UK figures huge today.


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    #5381
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    So the Italians care for their elderly relatives at home, and in Ireland we send them to nursing homes.

    I still think we’re going to see a large increase in both cases and deaths in the coming week.

    There could be a fair few deaths from the nursing home clusters, rather than from those who are not in nursing homes.


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    #5382
    [Deleted User]
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    JDD wrote: »
    Genuine question here. What are the chances, really, of catching a virus off someone sitting near you in a park, or walking past you up a hill, even if the area has a good few people around?

    If we really wanted to keep the infection rate low while opening up the restrictions somewhat, surely it would make more sense to allow only two visits per household to the supermarket every week, and then allow people to travel to the beach/park/countryside wherever that may be? There must be a much higher chance of catching it indoors rather than outdoors, and the supermarket must be absolutely rife with it, since that's the only place people can go right now. I know we had full intentions of just doing One Big Shop a week, but I find, because we're at home all the time, that we're topping up every day or couple of days.

    I just can't understand the outrage at people walking on the beach or up the hills before the full restrictions came in. Surely to God the chances of catching anything off a passerby outdoors is virtually nil? And if we're all to be doing this for another three months, there's going to have to be some relaxing of the rules, even in circumstances where the R0 rate hasn't dropped below 1, because otherwise you're going to find people flouting them altogether.

    How do you enforce it? Do we get printing presses running to print permits that get stamped at a supermarket and the Gardai have to check everyone at a park that they're on their first visit of a week?


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    #5383
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    I know Northern Ireland's small but they're doing the best of the UK countries per capita wise.

    2.84% of the UK population but only 1.1% of the UK deaths.


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    #5384
    nj27
    Registered Users Posts: 467 ✭✭nj27


    JDD wrote: »
    Genuine question here. What are the chances, really, of catching a virus off someone sitting near you in a park, or walking past you up a hill, even if the area has a good few people around?

    I've been wondering that myself. It seems to me that if you're likely to catch the virus walking past people on the street etc then it would be basically impossible to stop it spreading without martial law. I don't think it spreads quite as easily as that, given the number of cases we have relative to what you'd expect if it hopped from person to person during a brief encounter. That's not to say a cough in your direction, or onto a surface you later touch, couldn't result in you catching it.

    I think the main reason for anger at people for going to parks etc is that once you have people gather in any area the chances are you'll have groups of people sitting together (possible with a bag of tins) and basically replacing the now closed socialising environments with the country's green spaces which really defeats the purpose of these measures.


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    #5385
    [Deleted User]
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    Strumms wrote: »
    We will see extensions as long as people are not adhering to social distancing, as long as people are being selfish...” ahhh I’ll just go over to xyz person, see if they are ok “ “ ohhh I have to drop an extra blanket to xyz I’m worried about them”... you couldn’t give a shît about people being ok or blankets, you want to ‘talk’.... clowns, lift the fückin phone. :rolleyes:

    I hope its data rather that perception of adherence to social distancing that drives the decision. Infections rate, ICU admissions, Deaths and R0 should be the decisive factors. Not Johnny taking his dog for a 3k walk, no matter how much of an a**hole Johnny is.


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    #5386
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    ThomasFlynn wrote: »
    I know Northern Ireland's small but they're doing the best of the UK countries per capita wise.

    2.84% of the UK population but only 1.1% of the UK deaths.

    Their numbers seem much more in line with ours. It seems our island has dodged a bullet compared to the big one on the right.


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    #5387
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    UK could have more deaths than Italy, Spain and Germany combined by August

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/uk-will-be-europes-worst-hit-by-coronavirus-study-predicts

    That prediction graph is pretty frightening, not peaking for another 9 or 10 days, then staying above 2000 deaths a day for another few, I hope that it's the worst case scenario, and things might be quite as bad for them, if it does track those figures it's going to be much worse than what we've seen in Italy.


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    #5388
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    UK could have more deaths than Italy, Spain and Germany combined by August

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/uk-will-be-europes-worst-hit-by-coronavirus-study-predicts

    That was Boris Johnson's herd immunity approach on this ☹️.

    I think Leo and FG were going to take a similar path to the UK of herd immunity because there was no action whatsoever from our government until about the 9th or 10th of March. Thankfully we got somewhat lucky and our government began to listen to the professionals speaking out about this and began to implement measures to slow this down.


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    #5389
    [Deleted User]
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    Hooter23 wrote: »
    The fact that Germany has tested around a million people has has such a low death rate proves the the real death rate of the virus is even lower than what is being reported...Fake news

    Death rate in Germany now at 2%. Not that low is it?


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    #5390
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Are the pubs open on good friday?


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    #5391
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,447 ✭✭✭weisses


    Beasty wrote: »
    Just did a search - he had not been mentioned in the 8 and a half hours before you decided to do so

    There have been 7 mentions in the 2 and a half hours since you posted it. If you don't want to be part of discussions mentioning him, may I suggest you don't mention him yourself:P

    Kudos for being able to use the search function ;)


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    #5392
    Strazdas
    Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    owlbethere wrote: »
    That was Boris Johnson's herd immunity approach on this ☹️.

    I think Leo and FG were going to take a similar path to the UK of herd immunity because there was no action whatsoever from our government until about the 9th or 10th of March. Thankfully we got somewhat lucky and our government began to listen to the professionals speaking out about this and began to implement measures to slow this down.

    That is simply not true. There is not a shred of evidence Ireland ever considered going down the 'herd immunity' route.


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    #5393
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,261 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    After going out for a walk at lunch and seeing what people were at in that limited time it pretty clear we are going to have a spike again in two weeks time after Easter. Lots of people visiting and we saw two grannies doing Easter egg deliveries to their grandchildren.

    This weekend is going to be a disaster.


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    #5394
    Vicxas
    Registered Users Posts: 15,283 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Are the pubs open on good friday?

    Course they are, what a silly question


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    #5395
    JRant
    Registered Users Posts: 12,837 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Beasty wrote: »
    If this had been in hospitals at that time with no isolation precautions in place we would surely have had a hell of a lot more cases and indeed a lot more deaths. Healthcare workers would have been particularly exposed without adequate PPE. It seems to me to be only over the past few weeks we are finding those on the frontline being affected

    They tend to measure hospital numbers over the winter by numbers on trolleys, which was slightly higher than usual but not massively so

    I'm not saying it was definitely here as we have no real idea when it arrived into the country. I remember reading that Australia had a first wave that passed without a huge problem but when it reappeared a few weeks later it seemed to much more aggressive. Could be all mumbo jumbo for all I know but it's fascinating how it seems to hit certain areas harder than others. Just goes to show how little we know about this virus to date.

    When the dust settles there will be a new playbook on how not to deal with a pandemic, which can only be a good though.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    #5396
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,491 ✭✭✭jackboy


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    After going out for a walk at lunch and seeing what people were at in that limited time it pretty clear we are going to have a spike again in two weeks time after Easter. Lots of people visiting and we saw two grannies doing Easter egg deliveries to their grandchildren.

    This weekend is going to be a disaster.

    Why didn’t you call the guards on the grannies?


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    #5397
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    After going out for a walk at lunch and seeing what people were at in that limited time it pretty clear we are going to have a spike again in two weeks time after Easter. Lots of people visiting and we saw two grannies doing Easter egg deliveries to their grandchildren.

    This weekend is going to be a disaster.

    Can only speak for my own area when I say I've not seen any of that. People are out for shopping etc and they're walk, haven't seen house visits or anything like that.

    Firstly those over 70 shouldn't be out, so were the grandparents over 70 ? If they aren't then theres nothing wrong with standing outside someones house once your observing the social distancing


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    #5398
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Are the pubs open on good friday?

    A big fat no, it's going to be the driest Good Friday you've ever experienced, no pubs, no parties, no clubs where you can get a sneaky pint. It will be worse than 50 years ago except there will be no stations either.


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    #5399
    duffman13
    Registered Users Posts: 8,946 ✭✭✭duffman13


    owlbethere wrote: »
    That was Boris Johnson's herd immunity approach on this ☹️.

    I think Leo and FG were going to take a similar path to the UK of herd immunity because there was no action whatsoever from our government until about the 9th or 10th of March. Thankfully we got somewhat lucky and our government began to listen to the professionals speaking out about this and began to implement measures to slow this down.

    You think? ::pac: I havent seen anything to suggest we were ever considering the above.

    Seriously, there is one man leading the way on our response and its the CMO. He has come across exceptionally well and done a very good job. Granted there have been some mistakes (like every country in the world) specifically the nursing homes but the response has been good overall. It has been a measured response as much as it could be and fair play to him.


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    #5400
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    After going out for a walk at lunch and seeing what people were at in that limited time it pretty clear we are going to have a spike again in two weeks time after Easter. Lots of people visiting and we saw two grannies doing Easter egg deliveries to their grandchildren.

    This weekend is going to be a disaster.

    What do you mean grannies doing easter egg deliveries, did they not hear that Simon Harris gave the easter Bunny the go ahead?


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    #5401
    SharpshooterTom
    Registered Users Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭SharpshooterTom


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Their numbers seem much more in line with ours. It seems our island has dodged a bullet compared to the big one on the right.

    Deaths per million (approx):

    England - 114
    Wales - 78
    Scotland - 67
    Republic of Ireland - 43
    Northern Ireland - 41


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