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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #5822
    Duke of Url
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    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    Based on reaching the peak of this thing and lasting approx 2-3 weeks. The the HSE have said there are over 100 in ICU available. The real question is will we have sufficient health staff.

    I'd much prefer to be wrong about this.

    I’m guessing there are a large amount of nurses getting ICU training considering most other wards and A&E department have decreased patient volume


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    #5823
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    I'm seeing this as well. Up my me it's mainly the council estate types that are doing this. There were e 8 lads out on the green this evening drinking beers. Do they not give a ****e?

    A. How did you know they lived in a council estate

    B. Did you ring the Gardai


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    #5824
    JP Liz V1
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    This week, however, the cracks in our public health system began to show, as the lack of intensive care beds became glaringly evident at one Dublin hospital.

    On Wednesday Dr Cormac O’Loughlin, an intensive care specialist at the Mater hospital, warned that all of its 18 ICU beds were full, mainly with Covid-19 patients.

    The hospital, he said, was moving some patients to its high dependency unit but staffing issues remained. For every patient in an ICU bed there is the need for a dedicated nurse.

    “That would be threatened, that could be diluted if we stretch beyond the numbers we’re comfortable with, so that’s a bit of an unknown yet, but we have plans - all we can do is our best,” Dr O’Loughlin said.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/maresa-fagan-lack-of-icu-beds-highlights-cracks-in-our-health-system-992956.html
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    #5825
    easypazz
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    keynes wrote: »
    But they're problem is our problem when there's open borders between both nations. We'll find this out in earnest when summer travel starts. Irish governments have never put Irish citizens first, never

    No chance. As soon as we start getting ahead of them and easing restrictions there will be a full border lockdown.

    Even today the guards were turning cars back in Donegal.

    Unless Northern Ireland (who are also not bad) decide to close their borders with UK mainland


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    #5826
    declanflynn
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    woohoo!!! wrote: »
    There's a strong possibility that ICU capacity will be reached within the next week or so unfortunately.
    Theres also a strong possibility that ICU capacity wont be reached within the next week or so


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    #5827
    Away With The Fairies
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    This week, however, the cracks in our public health system began to show, as the lack of intensive care beds became glaringly evident at one Dublin hospital.

    On Wednesday Dr Cormac O’Loughlin, an intensive care specialist at the Mater hospital, warned that all of its 18 ICU beds were full, mainly with Covid-19 patients.

    The hospital, he said, was moving some patients to its high dependency unit but staffing issues remained. For every patient in an ICU bed there is the need for a dedicated nurse.

    “That would be threatened, that could be diluted if we stretch beyond the numbers we’re comfortable with, so that’s a bit of an unknown yet, but we have plans - all we can do is our best,” Dr O’Loughlin said.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/analysis/maresa-fagan-lack-of-icu-beds-highlights-cracks-in-our-health-system-992956.html

    And Cavan is fcuked. And I'm being labelled as a negative nelly here.


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    #5828
    JP Liz V1
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    careless sherpa wrote: »
    Cavan general hospital seems to be in serious trouble. 70 doctors and nurses infected and the entire ground floor in quarantine

    :(
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    #5829
    Strumms
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Nobody knows this.

    Correct. I don’t think it helps worrying about worse case scenarios or indeed best case. If everyone just knuckles down, does their bit as directed, be disciplined, this is a fight we win. Pure and simple.

    Arseholes bowing to emotional pressures and weaknesses and selfishness by not practicing social distancing and keeping their distance are the ones who CAN and will try fück this up... by the same token, as friends, family members etc we can’t be sugar coating the truth, we all have to be vigilant with buckets load of tough love... and by tough I mean expletive ridden angry tough love... “ you are going nowhere near your friends house you fûcking moron, sit down, watch tv and read AGAIN the rules and your responsibilities to get us ALL out ALIVE.”


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    #5830
    fullstop
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    joeysoap wrote: »
    How come we’re not washing down the streets.? Seeing other countries do it every day

    Which streets do you wash? Every street in the country? Where does the money, equipment etc come from? Optics is all that is in places like Dubai.


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    #5831
    petes
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    And Cavan is fcuked. And I'm being labelled as a negative nelly here.

    Negative Nelly? You take one line from a news report and decide that's the news you are taking from it without listening to any more of it.

    Countless times you've been corrected on your one line posts and yet you continue on.

    You're obviously not doing well with this, no one is but stop looking for the negative in every single thing. It's a sign it's getting on top of you.


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    #5832
    BanditLuke
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    Never have I wanted the weather to turn absolutely brutal for an extended period as much as I do now. Just got sent a picture of the local park at around 3pm today stuffed with people playing sports, picnics etc... This is an upper middle class area btw. Very deflating


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    #5833
    Happy4all
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    careless sherpa wrote: »
    Cavan general hospital seems to be in serious trouble. 70 doctors and nurses infected and the entire ground floor in quarantine

    Any link to that?


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    #5834
    blackcard
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    My aunt passed away recently (not due to the virus) and was repatriated to Ireland by the Kevin Bell Trust. We were only allowed have 10 people at the funeral. The church livestreamed the mass to nearly 900 people, and all our neighbours lined the road by our house as their way of saying goodbye. Really touching.

    I happened to be in a cemetery last week when a man was being buried. There were 2 people in attendance, the grave digger and another man who I think was a state official. Sad way to end your days on earth


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    #5835
    JP Liz V1
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    Field east wrote: »
    Totally incorrect. You need to listen the appropriate professionals in the know and not someone with hidden agendas, who cherry pick , bias reporters , etc, etc.
    Taking the above as an example, it’s no wonder that Dr Holohan and other senior trying to overall manage the situation constantly refer to be careful where you get your information from

    Dr. Emily O' Connor was talking to Zara King on VM1 News at 5.30

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1247954865957081090
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    #5836
    rm212
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Never have I wanted the weather to turn absolutely brutal for an extended period as much as do now. Just got sent a picture of the local park at around 3pm today stuffed with people playing sports, picnics etc... This is an upper middle class area btw. Very deflating

    This is what I’m hearing down the road from me all day long today. We may prepare for another surge in 2 weeks I think... I hope I’m wrong but i can’t imagine we are both having isolated incidents. One good thing is that the Gardai did a round in the car earlier and people kind of scurried inside quickly but they came back out once the coast was clear


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    #5837
    Away With The Fairies
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    Happy4all wrote: »
    Any link to that?

    https://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2020/04/08/4188364-covid19-outbreak-at-cavan-general/


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    #5838
    JP Liz V1
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Never have I wanted the weather to turn absolutely brutal for an extended period as much as I do now. Just got sent a picture of the local park at around 3pm today stuffed with people playing sports, picnics etc... This is an upper middle class area btw. Very deflating

    Is it rain dance time
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    #5839
    Happy4all
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    https://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2020/04/08/4188364-covid19-outbreak-at-cavan-general/

    Horrendous numbers.


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    #5840
    Away With The Fairies
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    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Dr. Emily O' Connor was talking to Zara King on VM1 News at 5.30

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1247954865957081090

    Mater, Beaumont and Connolly. Moving into the high dependency unit. What happens when space in the HDU gets full?


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    #5841
    Rob A. Bank
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    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Anyone arriving into Ireland is being told to self isolate not put into mandatory quarantine as you seem to be suggesting from this post. Ideally this is something that should have happened weeks ago but that horse has long since bolted.

    The main reason for the horse bolting is that the CMO decreed that sanitary screening at the airport was not necessary, in one of his first HSE press briefings. He spouted some rubbish about people taking paracetamol, or going to a different airport to fly to Ireland, as a reason for not screening arrivals for something as basic as their temperature.

    That coupled with the other doctor who seems to hate people wearing masks has meant that spread here has been a lot higher than it needed to be.

    I notice that sadly none of the two gentlemen above have evolved their thinking since, and that we are still wide open to spreaders from hot spots abroad. Self isolation risks spread in the journeys from the airport and whoever they have contact with thereafter.

    A quarantine hotel at the airport, where people arriving into the country pay for their 14 day stay, seems logical and would be relatively cost neutral for the state. The hotels at the airport could do with the business.


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    #5842
    pjohnson
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Never have I wanted the weather to turn absolutely brutal for an extended period as much as I do now. Just got sent a picture of the local park at around 3pm today stuffed with people playing sports, picnics etc... This is an upper middle class area btw. Very deflating
    If only these fùcks would Darwin themselves away but its others they will kill off the selfish good for nothings.


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    #5843
    easypazz
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Never have I wanted the weather to turn absolutely brutal for an extended period as much as I do now. Just got sent a picture of the local park at around 3pm today stuffed with people playing sports, picnics etc... This is an upper middle class area btw. Very deflating

    As long as family groups stay away from different family groups then there shouldn't be an issue.


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    #5844
    pjohnson
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    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    The main reason for the horse bolting is that the CMO decreed that sanitary screening at the airport was not necessary, in one of his first HSE press briefings. He spouted some rubbish about people taking paracetamol, or going to a different airport to fly to Ireland, as a reason for not screening arrivals for something as basic as their temperature.

    That coupled with the other doctor who seems to hate people wearing masks has meant that spread here has been a lot higher than it needed to be.

    I notice that sadly none of the two gentlemen above have evolved their thinking since, and that we are still wide open to spreaders from hot spots abroad. Self isolation risks spread in the journeys from the airport and whoever they have contact with thereafter.

    A quarantine hotel at the airport, where people arriving into the country pay for their 14 day stay, seems logical and would be relatively cost neutral for the state. The hotels at the airport could do with the business.

    Holohan criticised nursing homes for closing to visitors "too early"......and now theres 100+ clusters in nursing homes.


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    #5845
    KerryConnor
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    May have already been posted but very heartening interview here with hse consultant: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2324549824314506&id=794261867343317?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e


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    #5846
    Strazdas
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    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    The main reason for the horse bolting is that the CMO decreed that sanitary screening at the airport was not necessary, in one of his first HSE press briefings. He spouted some rubbish about people taking paracetamol, or going to a different airport to fly to Ireland, as a reason for not screening arrivals for something as basic as their temperature.

    That coupled with the other doctor who seems to hate people wearing masks has meant that spread here has been a lot higher than it needed to be.

    I notice that sadly none of the two gentlemen above have evolved their thinking since, and that we are still wide open to spreaders from hot spots abroad. Self isolation risks spread in the journeys from the airport and whoever they have contact with thereafter.

    A quarantine hotel at the airport, where people arriving into the country pay for their 14 day stay, seems logical and would be relatively cost neutral for the state. The hotels at the airport could do with the business.

    Namely Irish people.


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    #5847
    ZX7R
    Registered Users Posts: 3,426 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Danzy wrote: »
    https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/04/08/eu-member-states-fail-to-agree-on-coronavirus-credit-line.html


    Words fail to describe this.

    The EU and ECB would want to be careful that the markets don't come to believe that the political will to save the euro or avoid a depression in Europe is not there.

    Who could blame them for that?

    Hard to fathom the response.

    Reality is Austria and Denmark won't agree to Italy's proposals, Germany made concessions thanks to France all members agreed in principle to the new concessions bar Italy,
    I do feel sorry for Italy but they are going to have to make concessions also.
    Italy want to borrow but with absolutely no consequences.
    Plus the European ECB has done quite a lot already for the European economy.


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    #5848
    keynes
    Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭keynes


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Holohan criticised nursing homes for closing to visitors "too early"......and now theres 100+ clusters in nursing homes.


    Despite his appearance of professionalism and the sense of assurance he exudes, Holohan has been an unmitigated disaster from the outside. The sooner the fawning media spot this, the better. On every issue (Paddys Day, flights from Italy, Cheltenham, nursing homes) he has been weeks behind the curve, and this disease exacts the ultimate penalty for such incompetence


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    #5849
    easypazz
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    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    The main reason for the horse bolting is that the CMO decreed that sanitary screening at the airport was not necessary, in one of his first HSE press briefings. He spouted some rubbish about people taking paracetamol, or going to a different airport to fly to Ireland, as a reason for not screening arrivals for something as basic as their temperature.

    That coupled with the other doctor who seems to hate people wearing masks has meant that spread here has been a lot higher than it needed to be.

    I notice that sadly none of the two gentlemen above have evolved their thinking since, and that we are still wide open to spreaders from hot spots abroad. Self isolation risks spread in the journeys from the airport and whoever they have contact with thereafter.

    A quarantine hotel at the airport, where people arriving into the country pay for their 14 day stay, seems logical and would be relatively cost neutral for the state. The hotels at the airport could do with the business.

    We are not wide open.

    Firstly very few arrivals now
    Secondly they are required to isolate
    Thirdly we are all isolating from each other anyway.

    As soon as we start to get ahead of this you can be sure arrivals will jump through serious hoops to get in.


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    #5850
    stephenjmcd
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Mater, Beaumont and Connolly. Moving into the high dependency unit. What happens when space in the HDU gets full?

    They use the ward space thats been freed up along with space still being freed up.

    This is all in the various news reports, your questions have all been answered if you actually read them and not pick out the lines your interested in. There are beds available if needed, hopefully they wont be but with surge plans the capacity is there.

    It's been explained many times by many posters on here. Honestly take your own advice from earlier and take a break


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    #5851
    gabeeg
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    easypazz wrote: »
    As long as family groups stay away from different family groups then there shouldn't be an issue.

    That's basically impossible with kids.

    I've watched several sets of parents talk together from what they perceive to be a safe distance, while their kids play together merrily.


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