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Covid 19 Part XX-26,644 in ROI (1,772 deaths) 6,064 in NI (556 deaths) (08/08)Read OP

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    #9272
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Open rural pubs first and there'll be flocks down to them, that's a terrible idea.

    Depends how you do it - you could start with places very far from urban areas.

    I don’t really think you’ll have people rushing from Cork to Caherdaniel or Dublin to Drumahair. If they were that keen on a pint they’re going to go to a pub/restaurant and plenty are also going to just stay at home.

    At this stage it’s been six months. I think the hype of going to the pub has really worn off.


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    #9273
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    I'm confused.....

    You think this is the correct course but it's too risk averse?

    Cake and eat it type thing?

    No. I agree with what she did. And I agree with her givt continuing to be risk averse. It is just that I don't think we as a nation could have been carried along to cooperate with the kind of measures NZ take.

    But they are a funny old place. I have a sibling there. It is notable how strong is an undercurrent of survivalist, NZ is a last hold out against the world in flames type of vibe. And in this case they may be right!


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    #9274
    GazzaL
    Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    I don't 'disinfect' it but I wipe down the regularly touched surfaces after every journey

    You are, without question, a highly exceptional case.


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    #9275
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,934 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    YellowBucket wrote: »
    Depends how you do it - you could start with places very far from urban areas.

    I don’t really think you’ll have people rushing from Cork to Caherdaniel or Dublin to Drumahair. If they were that keen on a pint they’re going to go to a pub/restaurant and plenty are also going to just stay at home.

    you d be surprised what addicts would do to get their fix


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    #9276
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Yanks is a red herring.

    Was talking to Brother last night, lives in a small town in a border county. Local family just back from Spain, supposed to "restricting their movements"and the father is driving a taxi.

    This is exactly why NZ is 100 days virus free and we wait daily to hear where is the next viral wild fire.


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    #9277
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    you d be surprised what addicts would do to get their fix

    You'll find people addicted to alcohol will be happy out with their offo.

    I'd be worried about groups booking airbnbs for the sake of the open pubs in vicinity. Making weekends of it.


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    #9278
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Fully agree. People seem to think these flights are full of American tourists and that just isn't the case.

    Yes theres probably been some but the portrayal of packed flights was never realistic.

    In saying that we should have gone with the same travel lists as the rest of the EU from the outset.

    That's 57000 from non green list countries in last 2 weeks. Stop minimising please. It's dangerous?

    The chances of none of those people having it are very low.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/100000-passengers-have-flown-into-irish-airports-39430158.html

    Over 100,000 passengers have flown into Ireland over the last fortnight, including nearly 15,000 from the Green List countries and nearly 28,000 from the UK.


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    #9279
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    you d be surprised what addicts would do to get their fix

    They can easily open a few cans or bottles in the back garden as it is. I think at this stage the pub obsessed culture has probably changed.

    A lot of people would be very wary of being in a packed pub. I can’t really see that re-emerging for a long time. It’s certainly going to be after we’re sure the pandemic is over.

    It’s been a far more continental style approach to drinking since restrictions relaxed and we’re in this mode for 6 months at this stage.


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    #9280
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    This jurisdiction cannot be compared to New Zealand.

    1) New Zealand has no land border.
    2) It does not have a Common Travel Area with another jurisdiction.
    3) Most importantly, they don't have to try to deal with Irish unionists.


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    #9281
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,934 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    You'll find people addicted to alcohol will be happy out with their offo.

    I'd be worried about groups booking airbnbs for the sake of the open pubs in vicinity. Making weekends of it.

    true, but addicts do also love going to the pub, no matter whats in the way


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    #9282
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    GazzaL wrote: »
    As expected, pro-mask people dismiss the importance of good public hygiene because they think they know better...

    No matter how clean the interior of a car is, most people don't disinfect them on a daily basis so even they wash their hands before leaving the house, it makes sense to still use hand sanitiser upon entering a premises.

    I'm not dismissing the importance of hand hygiene. I use my own. Just because one user uses their hand sanitizer in their car, it doesn't mean we all do. I use my own bottle of hand sanitizer at the shop entrance. Stop labelling us as dirty pigs because we don't want to touch the dirty sh!te at the shops.


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    #9283
    Santy2015
    Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    The comparisons to NZ need to stop. And the zero Covid Ireland group have no idea what their plans would do to this country and its people. They’d all get full pay and a nice pension. What about the rest??
    https://twitter.com/zerocovidisland/status/1292384524811284480?s=21

    https://twitter.com/drzerocraic/status/1292390427237261312?s=21


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    #9284
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    true, but addicts do also love going to the pub, no matter whats in the way

    You have me mad for a pint


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    #9285
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    you d be surprised what addicts would do to get their fix

    Addicts are paying a euro a can, not a fiver.


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    #9286
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,934 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    You have me mad for a pint

    a pint isnt gonna cut it, its hundreds of pints you need, in one sitting!


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    #9287
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,934 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Addicts are paying a euro a can, not a fiver.

    i beg to differ


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    #9288
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    That's 57000 from non green list countries in last 2 weeks. Stop minimising please. It's dangerous?

    The chances of none of those people having it are very low.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/100000-passengers-have-flown-into-irish-airports-39430158.html

    How am I minimising it ? I said people assumed there was plane fulls of American tourists which the vast majority of the time was not the case.

    Do those figures show they are tourists or Irish people returning home ? No they don't.


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    #9289
    mandrake04
    Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Gruffalox wrote: »
    This is exactly why NZ is 100 days virus free and we wait daily to hear where is the next viral wild fire.

    Its like a sinking ship where the Captain is ordering everyone to muck in and bail out the water, but no has thought to try and patch the holes first.


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    #9290
    YellowBucket
    Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭YellowBucket


    Unless you moved Ireland a long haul flights distance from the nearest part of continental Europe and relocated the U.K. to say Egypt it’s not comparable to NZ

    NZ is 4,163Km from even Australia! That’s significantly further than the distance from Ireland to Newfoundland in Canada, 3269km.

    I don’t think people really comprehend just how remote NZ is.


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    #9291
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Seems to be alot of people reporting in the last day or two issues with phones draining battery, just heard it there on radio and there's reddit threads reporting the same, alot of people seem to be linking it to the COVID app. I dont recall any updates being pushed out nor is my phone draining battery


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    #9292
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,934 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Seems to be alot of people reporting in the last day or two issues with phones draining battery, just heard it there on radio and there's reddit threads reporting the same, alot of people seem to be linking it to the COVID app. I dont recall any updates being pushed out nor is my phone draining battery

    maybe we re using our phones more?


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    #9293
    Santy2015
    Registered Users Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭Santy2015


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Seems to be alot of people reporting in the last day or two issues with phones draining battery, just heard it there on radio and there's reddit threads reporting the same, alot of people seem to be linking it to the COVID app. I dont recall any updates being pushed out nor is my phone draining battery

    Tin foil hats brigade I’d assume! A reason to delete the app. Hasn’t drained my battery either and my iPhone is 3 years old!


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    #9294
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    How am I minimising it ? I said people assumed there was plane fulls of American tourists which the vast majority of the time was not the case.

    Do those figures show they are tourists or Irish people returning home ? No they don't.

    So the population of Ireland has increase by 57000 in a week due to repatriations?

    We won't have enough space for all of the citizens coming back.

    The fact is even if it were 57000 Irish citizens returning from red zone countries,

    as an Irish adult, do you honestly believe the all observed quarantine?

    I know two people who didn't. Economically they are losing if they don't go. They are losing 2 weeks pay if they do observe it. How many families live month to month here. Sh!tloads.

    Think we need to get real and realise the cake and eat it / whack a LOK approach isn't going to cut it.


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    #9295
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Santy2015 wrote: »
    Tin foil hats brigade I’d assume! A reason to delete the app. Hasn’t drained my battery either and my iPhone is 3 years old!

    No nor mine, was just mentioned there on the 11 news on the radio and we've one phone in our house thats got the issue but I don't see how it relates to the app.

    Anyway here's the reddit thread for anyone interested
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/i5xkfo/covid_application_eating_battery/?utm_source=xpromo&utm_medium=amp&utm_name=amp_comment_iterations&utm_term=active_search&utm_content=post_body


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    #9296
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    How am I minimising it ? I said people assumed there was plane fulls of American tourists which the vast majority of the time was not the case.

    Do those figures show they are tourists or Irish people returning home ? No they don't.

    Hear, hear.

    The earlier version of that article, linky, stated the following:

    "A breakdown of arrivals into Ireland of Irish residents returning home or foreign residents visiting Ireland is not available. All statistics are provisional figures provided by the airports and are subject to change."

    Also worth noting a comparison with normal times. In July 2019, almost 3.5 million passengers travelled through Dublin Airport. Not a direct comparison but it does show that travellers through the airports are a tiny fraction of normal.


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    #9297
    timsey tiger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Seems to be alot of people reporting in the last day or two issues with phones draining battery, just heard it there on radio and there's reddit threads reporting the same, alot of people seem to be linking it to the COVID app. I dont recall any updates being pushed out nor is my phone draining battery

    My battery dranined really quickly yesterday. The battery mgmt system pointed out the covid app. I haven't had an issue with it before.


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    #9298
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Actually, I'm down to 63pc after a full charge overnight.

    Is there an app I can get to check power usage in depth?

    On Samsung anyway into settings device care battery and battery usage and it'll tell you whats being used.


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    #9299
    wowzer
    Registered Users Posts: 799 ✭✭✭wowzer


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Actually, I'm down to 63pc after a full charge overnight.

    Is there an app I can get to check power usage in depth?

    There's a thread here informing how to fix the issues, it's in Android Devices forum. I don't know how to link it.


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    #9300
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    YellowBucket wrote: »
    Unless you moved Ireland a long haul flights distance from the nearest part of continental Europe and relocated the U.K. to say Egypt it’s not comparable to NZ

    NZ is 4,163Km from even Australia! That’s significantly further than the distance from Ireland to Newfoundland in Canada, 3269km.

    I don’t think people really comprehend just how remote NZ is.

    I think the cost of rolling lockdowns as we are experiencing now is significantly greater than making sure people quarantine.

    Germany are imposing 25,000 euro fines on people who break it.

    Some countries realise what's involved and some countries are corrupt as ****.

    I'd say we are in the latter.

    If UK do it we will have to do it anyway. Just like Schengen Agreement, they made that decision.

    It's going to cost a **** load more when even one school closes and people sh!t themselves and pull little Johnny out of school.

    No amount of "you can't do that" is going to stop people looking after our kids.


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    #9301
    mandrake04
    Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    YellowBucket wrote: »
    Unless you moved Ireland a long haul flights distance from the nearest part of continental Europe and relocated the U.K. to say Egypt it’s not comparable to NZ

    NZ is 4,163Km from even Australia! That’s significantly further than the distance from Ireland to Newfoundland in Canada, 3269km.

    I don’t think people really comprehend just how remote NZ is.

    In fairness wether its 4000km or 40km its still an island, if you don't want planes to land it easy enough just park buses across the runways then it doesn't matter if it long haul or not.

    Tasmania is about 400km from Melbourne , but its been Covid free for months.

    The only difference is the 6 counties, if there was a unified agreement to be a covid free island it could work. and also the mindset of the ***** Granny Killers wanting to go on holidays.


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