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Clerical Positions in the Civil and Public Service

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    #2
    puma90
    Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭puma90


    Just applied there :)


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    #3
    yenom
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭yenom


    Interesting. I've applied for the TCO too.


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    Malarkey101
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Malarkey101


    Shame its not across more departments.


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    Gomer Pyle
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Gomer Pyle


    43 hours a week?


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    Kristopherus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Gomer Pyle wrote: »
    43 hours a week?

    = €9.36 per hour, a fabulous 71c more than the minimum wage. Dunnes, Tesco, Aldi, Lidl, etc pay more than that:mad::mad::mad:.


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    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Does that 43 hrs include breaks!?


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    Kristopherus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Does that 43 hrs include breaks!?

    Should include breaks, but not Lunch Hour.


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    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    So about 8-12.30 and 1.30-5.30... Long aul day for not much money!


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    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    Malarkey101 wrote: »
    Shame its not across more departments.

    :confused:

    It's across the whole public service.


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    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    So about 8-12.30 and 1.30-5.30... Long aul day for not much money!

    43 is the hours of attendance, the working week is a 37-hour week.


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    Malarkey101
    Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Malarkey101


    barneystinson wrote: »
    :confused:

    It's across the whole public service.

    Ah yea maybe you're right I thought it was just for the department of public expenditure and reform from what was said in work today and also if you look at the employing department on the job advertisement. But hopefully you're right worked in a few departments in the past I wouldnt mind going back to.


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    Tarzana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Tarzana


    Kristopherus wrote: »
    = €9.36 per hour, a fabulous 71c more than the minimum wage. Dunnes, Tesco, Aldi, Lidl, etc pay more than that:mad::mad::mad:.

    I'm earning €7.30 an hour at the moment - I'd gladly take it.


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    WhiteWalls
    Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭WhiteWalls


    With all the complaining aside, would it be still hard to get? I'm sure that if you got in the door at all it would be a job for life?


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    number13
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭number13


    Does anyone have a link to pay scale ? 21k not great money any know what the take home money would be ? Just graduated with a law degree does anyone think I would be better off waiting for the graduate positions


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    WhiteWalls
    Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭WhiteWalls


    id imagine around 350 a week


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    number13
    Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭number13


    WhiteWalls wrote: »
    id imagine around 350 a week

    What ? 350 is crap by the time you drive to work . What way does the increments go ? I'd imagine the money goes up pretty quickly


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    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    http://www.impact.ie/Your-Sector/Public-Sector/Civil-Service/Civil-service-salary-scales/New-scales-for-new-entrants-2011-Civil-Service.htm


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    redout
    Registered Users Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    WhiteWalls wrote: »
    With all the complaining aside, would it be still hard to get? I'm sure that if you got in the door at all it would be a job for life?
    While it is intended to fill permanent posts through this competition, offers of temporary positions may also be made in some cases.

    You also have to successfully pass your probation period.

    Apparently 15,000 applied for the recent TCO competition so going by that then yes I would imagine getting a position will be difficult. They also have not mentioned how many positions will be available.


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    Gongoozler
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,263 ✭✭✭Gongoozler


    I'm at clerical officer grade, I earn 20859 per year, which for me is 1500 a month.
    Increments don't kick in until after at least a year and a half as far as I know. Haven't got one myself yet anyway.


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    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    number13 wrote: »
    What ? 350 is crap by the time you drive to work . What way does the increments go ? I'd imagine the money goes up pretty quickly

    WHAT?! Don't you know our public servants are grossly overpaid...

    (remember you said those words if in a couple of years yo're not a civil servant and planning to bash their pay! ;))


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    redout
    Registered Users Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    number13 wrote: »
    Does anyone have a link to pay scale ? 21k not great money any know what the take home money would be ? Just graduated with a law degree does anyone think I would be better off waiting for the graduate positions

    If you mean the AO positions then there was already a few of them competitions at the end of last year (first recruitment in several years) so no guarantee there will be more anytime soon. Not all of them people have been put in jobs yet afaik.


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    WhiteWalls
    Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭WhiteWalls


    anyone any idea when these positons will be filled?


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    redout
    Registered Users Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    WhiteWalls wrote: »
    anyone any idea when these positons will be filled?

    Online aptitude, supervised aptitude and interview if successful. I would hazard a guess at 3 months from the time the tests start.


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    WhiteWalls
    Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭WhiteWalls


    barneystinson wrote: »
    http://www.impact.ie/Your-Sector/Public-Sector/Civil-Service/Civil-service-salary-scales/New-scales-for-new-entrants-2011-Civil-Service.htm

    Thanks but that doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever


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    redout
    Registered Users Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    WhiteWalls wrote: »
    Thanks but that doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever
    NRP - Clerical officer - PCC

    20,859 - 21,830 - 22,805 - 23,778 - 24,752 - 25,724 - 26,672 - 27,619 - 28,569 - 29,515 - 30,456 - 31,924 - 33,078 - 33,607

    That is the yearly increments:

    i.e. Year 1 €20,859, Year 2 €21,830 etc.


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    WhiteWalls
    Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭WhiteWalls


    Thanks redout, poor money at the beginning but I suppose if you got in the door it would be a career. Would there be an element to 'who you know' about this?


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    redout
    Registered Users Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout


    WhiteWalls wrote: »
    Thanks redout, poor money at the beginning but I suppose if you got in the door it would be a career. Would there be an element to 'who you know' about this?

    I really couldn't say. Certainly in the past the entire government/civil service was rife with cronyism. Many would argue that it still is, especially in fields such as foreign affairs and third secretary i.e. diplomat positions. People believe that a lot of government jobs are 'gone' before they are even advertised.


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    #29
    barneystinson
    Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    WhiteWalls wrote: »
    Thanks redout, poor money at the beginning but I suppose if you got in the door it would be a career. Would there be an element to 'who you know' about this?

    This kind of talk nowadays really grinds my gears.

    The first test is an online aptitude test, is "who you know" gonna fix that for you?

    The second stage is a supervised aptitude test (where you're out unless you can deliver a result similar to the unsupervised online one). Is "who you know" gonna fix that for you?

    The next round is an interview with a panel of more than one person. Is "who you know" gonna fix that for you?

    If you know that many people that well you'd wanna set your sights higher than a CO job...!


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    WhiteWalls
    Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭WhiteWalls


    I hope your right Barney Simpson!!


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    dearg lady
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,091 ✭✭✭dearg lady


    As far as I know the 43 includes lunch breaks, so 37 working hours.


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