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Saracens vs Munster, Sat 20th April, 3pm

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    #212
    ScrubsfanChris
    Registered Users Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Erik Shun wrote: »
    But assistants are not... I think JVG is looking to bring in some fresh blood
    Apart from Jerry, he should completely clear house


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    #213
    razorblunt
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    Rhodes MOTM for me before Billy.


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    #214
    Faugheen
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    The love-in for Billy Vunipola is vomit-inducing here.

    'A tough week'. Piss off. He gave his support to someone who said gays are going to hell. Tough week my hole.

    He probably was MOTM but the downplaying of his nonsense is a joke.

    DOC keeping his mouth closed whenever it was suggested was telling in my opinion.


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    #215
    UnknownSpecies
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    Wonder why they gave Vunipola MOTM. Hardly to get a reaction :rolleyes: Farrell for me.


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    #216
    kmart6
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    POM was at nothing today. Only noticeable thing have been the penalties he has given away.


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    #217
    fitz
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,937 ✭✭✭fitz


    Faugheen wrote: »
    The love-in for Billy Vunipola is vomit-inducing here.

    'A tough week'. Piss off. He gave his support to someone who said gays are going to hell. Tough week my hole.

    Actually offensive how sympathetic they're being towards him.


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    #218
    Hobosan
    Registered Users Posts: 582 ✭✭✭Hobosan


    uptherebels wrote: »
    Don't understand why they waited till the 70 odd minute to bring Matthews on.

    More creativity here than in the Munster attack.


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    #219
    razorblunt
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    Faugheen wrote: »
    The love-in for Billy Vunipola is vomit-inducing here.

    'A tough week'. Piss off. He gave his support to someone who said gays are going to hell. Tough week my hole.

    He probably was MOTM but the downplaying of his nonsense is a joke.

    DOC keeping his mouth closed whenever it was suggested was telling in my opinion.

    Selling this as redemption for Vunipola is pathetic. Is Nick Heath a commentator with them? Penny for his thoughts.


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    #220
    twinytwo
    Registered Users Posts: 5,104 ✭✭✭twinytwo


    kmart6 wrote: »
    POM has been nothing today. Only noticeable thing have been the penalties he has given away.

    No one did anything today...

    What will change next season? .... nothing!


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    #221
    Erik Shun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    kmart6 wrote: »
    POM was at nothing today. Only noticeable thing have been the penalties he has given away.

    Rubbish


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    #222
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Munster are becoming the Mayo of the Heineken Cup. That's three seasons in a row they've been utterly dominated at this stage of the tournament.


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    #223
    AbusesToilets
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    kmart6 wrote: »
    POM has been nothing today. Only noticeable thing have been the penalties he has given away.

    Hardly unusual for him. Vastly overrated player, along with Stander.


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    #224
    BonnieSituation
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    fitz wrote: »
    Actually offensive how sympathetic they're being towards him.

    After the try:

    "That was the highlight of the toughest of weeks for him"

    STFU Nick!


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    #225
    vetinari
    Registered Users Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭vetinari


    JVG should be let go. He's hopeless. No idea what he's adding to the team.


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    #226
    PhlegmyMoses
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    The way that the commentators are saying that it has been a tough week for Vunipola, like he somehow had no control over proceedings. If that was an Irish or Leinster player I would be ****ing livid with him as a fan. Not because I disagree with his views, I do, but because he has brought that **** into the squad going into a huge game.


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    #227
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Faugheen wrote: »
    The love-in for Billy Vunipola is vomit-inducing here.

    'A tough week'. Piss off. He gave his support to someone who said gays are going to hell. Tough week my hole.

    He probably was MOTM but the downplaying of his nonsense is a joke.

    DOC keeping his mouth closed whenever it was suggested was telling in my opinion.
    He shouldn't get credit for that. If he has an issue with it speak up. Instead people will associate the fact he stayed quiet as being against it, when the flip side of it is he want's to keep getting TV work.


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    #228
    ScrubsfanChris
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    vetinari wrote: »
    JVG should be let go. He's hopeless. No idea what he's adding to the team.
    He's only been in the job a year and a half and didn't get to choose his staff.
    That will not change in the summer.


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    #229
    kub
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    vetinari wrote: »
    JVG should be let go. He's hopeless. No idea what he's adding to the team.

    Bad news, he only signed a new contract with Munster last week


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    #230
    BonnieSituation
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    "Behind closed doors there's been a lot of love... I believe in what I believe in."

    Disgusting stuff all 'round.


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    #231
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    ROG needs to come home. Bring that Crusader attacking flare and bring the skills up.

    There's no obvious signings to make at this point, the squad is there or there abouts. They just need better coaching


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    #232
    Squatter
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    The penalty where he was resting on Beirne’s back?

    Only after the turnover had been effected. :mad:


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    #233
    kub
    Registered Users Posts: 6,528 ✭✭✭kub


    ScrubsfanChris wrote: »
    He's only been in the job a year and a half and didn't get to choose his staff.
    That will not change in the summer.

    That is a pity, jobs for boys is not a professional approach


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    #234
    PhlegmyMoses
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    "Behind closed doors there's been a lot of love... I believe in what I believe in."

    Disgusting stuff all 'round.

    And if he was a fringe player the love would be a lot less. Doubt he recognises that himself though.


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    #235
    fitz
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    BonnieSituation wrote: »
    "Behind closed doors there's been a lot of love... I believe in what I believe in."

    Disgusting stuff all 'round.

    Absolutely clear he's not one bit sorry.
    He's a bigot, plain and simple.


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    #236
    stephen_n
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    Munster lack creativity from 1-15, don’t know why all the crticism lands with Jones. There is no front foot ball created for the backs to work off. No connected phase play to create space. Just truck it up, one out runners, far to easy for top teams to defend against. There is no clear gameplan to create space. Just a hope the opposition will make mistakes. Defence is excellent and enough to get them this far, but not enough to win games at the business end of the season.

    That’s the second semi final in a row that Beirne’s been anonymous in. Like Munster when it comes to the big games he fades away. Think he lacks the physicality when the game steps up.


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    #237
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,797 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Munster are becoming the Mayo of the Heineken Cup. That's three seasons in a row they've been utterly dominated at this stage of the tournament.

    At least they're consistent.

    In all seriousness, that is their level, they know where the gap to the top is, the game played out much as I expected.

    As a Leinster fan i think we'll edge Toulouse but won't beat that Saracens team, especially in England.


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    #238
    troyzer
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    Larbre34 wrote: »
    At least they're consistent.

    In all seriousness, that is their level, they know where the gap to the top is, the game played out much as I expected.

    As a Leinster fan i think we'll edge Toulouse but won't beat that Saracens team, especially in England.

    Leinster at their best is better than Saracens at their best. They match up well.

    But they need a serious uptick in form.


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    #239
    letowski
    Registered Users Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭letowski


    Cant be surprised at the result today.

    Two biggest problems for me is that progress and development of our attacking game has been minimal enough since we last played Saracens 2 years ago at this stage of the competition. Van Grann and Jones have simply failed to bring the team on to a new level in order to get silverware.

    The other is that Munster are not producing enough high quality players, particurly in the front 5. It was basically the same team, playing the same way as it was two years ago.

    Not good enough.


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    #240
    Squatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    vetinari wrote: »
    JVG should be let go. He's hopeless. No idea what he's adding to the team.

    He's mainly adding second-rate South Africans.

    In which regard, is Taute injured or has he left Munster?


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    #241
    The Talking Bread
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Munster are becoming the Mayo of the Heineken Cup. That's three seasons in a row they've been utterly dominated at this stage of the tournament.

    Mayo hardly get "utterly dominated" when they fall short. Big difference between Mayo's shortfalls in finals etc and Munster getting deservedly well beaten in semi finals.

    Not a great analogy


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