Standard of films comedy today.

Checkmate19 · 22-09-2019 7:53am #1

Im in my 40's and feel that the standard of films and comedy has continually dropped off over the years. Maybe we where just spoiled and growing up it was a golden age for both forms on entertainment. Probably there is many reasons for it but i feel the standard of both have declined over the years. Comedy would include stand up sketch shows films etc.

lola85 · 22-09-2019 8:35am

PC now.

Can’t do any jokes without offending.

https://www.out.com/celebs/2019/5/28/seth-rogen-sorry-all-those-gay-jokes

“Like the ‘How I know you’re gay’ thing [from The 40-Year-Old Virgin], it’s something people have been like, ‘It’s not fun to be in the theater when people are laughing at that, knowing what they’re probably actually laughing at.’” Which is just, you know, homophobia.

RocketRaccoon · 22-09-2019 8:39am

Exactly as the poster above said, people have ruined comedy by wanting to be offended by every small little thing.

Stand up comedy is in the absolute doldrums because of these pussies.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-09-2019 8:39am

lola85 wrote: »

PC now.

Can’t do any jokes without offending.

https://www.out.com/celebs/2019/5/28/seth-rogen-sorry-all-those-gay-jokes

“Like the ‘How I know you’re gay’ thing [from The 40-Year-Old Virgin], it’s something people have been like, ‘It’s not fun to be in the theater when people are laughing at that, knowing what they’re probably actually laughing at.’” Which is just, you know, homophobia.

Nothing to do with PC - plenty of non-PC movies out there.

Problem is most of the modern comedies focus on cheap laughs (case in point, Rogen) and toilet humour and look more like teenage lampoon movies than actual comedies. The subtlety of Monty Python, for example, has never been replicated.

RocketRaccoon · 22-09-2019 8:41am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Nothing to do with PC - plenty of non-PC movies out there.

Problem is most of the modern comedies focus on cheap laughs (case in point, Rogen) and toilet humour and look more like teenage lampoon movies than actual comedies. The subtlety of Monty Python, for example, has never been replicated.

Can you give me an example of a good, non pc, comedy movie released in the last 5 years?

JohnnyFlash · 22-09-2019 8:42am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The subtlety of Monty Python, for example, has never been replicated.

Ah yes, the subtlety of Biggus Dickus and Big Nose the Jew.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-09-2019 8:43am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Can you give me an example of a good, non pc, comedy movie released in the last 5 years?

Life of Brian was non-PC and still one of the best comedies ever made.

gmisk · 22-09-2019 8:44am

Some recent comedies I enjoyed

Films
Game night
Thor Ragnarok
Blockers
Booksmart
Spy
The heat
Bridesmaids
Hunt for the wilderpeople
Good boys (not great but some hilarious parts)

Tv
What we do in the shadows
Schitts Creek
The other two
Derry girls
The good place
Veep
Fleabag
I think you should leave
Game face

There is some good stuff out there but film wise I think the big superhero and similar movies kinda stomp all over the competition.
I don't think tv comedy is too bad recently, but I guess comedy is subjective.

Ipso · 22-09-2019 8:44am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

The subtlety of Monty Python, for example, has never been replicated.

Ah yes, the subtlety of Biggus Dickus and Big Nose the Jew.

He has a wife, you know.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-09-2019 8:46am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Ah yes, the subtlety of Biggus Dickus and Big Nose the Jew.

Exactly my point: they could mix non-PC with intelligent satire.

Cases in point: "What have the Romans ever done for us?", "We need action not words!" and the scene where Stan wants to be a woman.

ButtersSuki · 22-09-2019 8:46am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Can you give me an example of a good, non pc, comedy movie released in the last 5 years?

Don’t know if it makes the 5 year rule but Movie 43 for me was absolutely hilarious and is about as non pc as you’ll get. Destroyed by the majority of critics btw, but loved by some.

RocketRaccoon · 22-09-2019 8:46am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Life of Brian was non-PC and still one of the best comedies ever made.

Last 5 years?
The PC nonsense in this world has ruined comedy.

gmisk · 22-09-2019 8:46am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Can you give me an example of a good, non pc, comedy movie released in the last 5 years?

Hmmm Deadpool?

Sonics2k · 22-09-2019 8:47am

Odds are when you were twenty, some forty year old was out there lamenting the quality of comedy, and possibly blaming PC culture. When that forty year old was twenty, you can be damn sure some forty year old was giving out about the quality of movies.

TheValeyard · 22-09-2019 8:47am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Can you give me an example of a good, non pc, comedy movie released in the last 5 years?

Deadpool 2?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-09-2019 8:48am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Last 5 years?
The PC nonsense in this world has ruined comedy.

That's the excuse of the weak comedian.

pjohnson · 22-09-2019 8:49am

I didnt like the thunder last night. I suppose thats those damn PC gone mad again.

pjohnson · 22-09-2019 8:53am

I'd have thought someone called Rocket Racoon would have enjoyed Guardians of the Galaxy.

Dravokivich · 22-09-2019 8:55am

The deadpool movies were kinda tame in fairness. The movie deadpool and the comic deadpool are 2 very different characters.

gmisk · 22-09-2019 8:57am

There are plenty of non pc comedians like Frankie Boyle etc he gets plenty of Tv time as well.

When it comes to non pc comedy movies (good boys) there have also been a few recently on TV (I think you should leave) I think in general just less decent comedies about.

RocketRaccoon · 22-09-2019 9:05am

Deadpool 1&2, both incredible movies, absolutely hilarious. So that's 2(and Guardians) in 5 years.

RocketRaccoon · 22-09-2019 9:06am

Can you imagine how different classics like Seinfeld would be if it was released nowadays, it wouldn't get past the first season. Same with shows like men behaving badly, married with children, bottom etc.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-09-2019 9:14am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

Can you imagine how different classics like Seinfeld would be if it was released nowadays, it wouldn't get past the first season. Same with shows like men behaving badly, married with children, bottom etc.

Seinfeld would have no problem. The others were all overrated anyway.

RocketRaccoon · 22-09-2019 9:19am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Seinfeld would have no problem. The others were all overrated anyway.

There are so many parts of Seinfeld that would never be allowed to air nowadays, remember the reaction to 25 year old episodes of Friends when it released on Netflix recently? These freaks would have a field day with Seinfeld.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 22-09-2019 9:26am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

There are so many parts of Seinfeld that would never be allowed to air nowadays, remember the reaction to 25 year old episodes of Friends when it released on Netflix recently? These freaks would have a field day with Seinfeld.

But the people who decried Friends were mostly ignored. In any case, it's not even all that good.

Whether or not a comedy is good or bad or aired or not aired has nothing to do with how PC it is or isn't.

If you want to decry PC, fine - I'm with you. But if you want to use it as an excuse for mediocre shock-comedy, then forget it.

RocketRaccoon · 22-09-2019 9:32am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

But the people who decried Friends were mostly ignored. In any case, it's not even all that good.

Whether or not a comedy is good or bad or aired or not aired has nothing to do with how PC it is or isn't.

If you want to decry PC, fine - I'm with you. But if you want to use it as an excuse for mediocre shock-comedy, then forget it.

But my point was that if they tried to make Seinfeld nowadays, exactly as it was back then there is no way it would be allowed.

Gregor Samsa · 22-09-2019 9:32am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

There are so many parts of Seinfeld that would never be allowed to air nowadays, remember the reaction to 25 year old episodes of Friends when it released on Netflix recently? These freaks would have a field day with Seinfeld.

I think the main problem with the modern world is that some people confuse a small corner of Twitter with public opinion. Click-bait media picks up on a few outraged and outspoken Tweets that should have just sat quietly in a little corner on that platform, and make it look like widespread opinion. It’s artificially created, and best just ignored. I mean, that crap about Friends didn’t actually have any material effect on it being shown (and popular) on Netflix.

Earthhorse · 22-09-2019 9:38am

The quality of comedy movies has been poor for quite some time.

The talent is all focused on TV and stand up these days which I feel are as strong if not stronger than ever.

The Marvel films are a good case in point. I watched Endgame last night and it had more laugh out loud moments than most comedies I see. Most comedy films these days are wacky and juvenile and get tiresome quite quickly.

Will Ferrell, Adam Sandler, Judd Apatow and co are all people who had one or two good movies in them and were given a ticket to produce several dozen.

Earthhorse · 22-09-2019 9:40am

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

But my point was that if they tried to make Seinfeld nowadays, exactly as it was back then there is no way it would be allowed.

It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia is way more non PC than Seinfeld and is being made to this day. Ditto South Park.

In fact you couldn’t have made those shows back in the eighties or most of the nineties. There’s just no way.

JohnnyFlash · 22-09-2019 9:53am

Earthhorse wrote: »

It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia is way more non PC than Seinfeld and is being made to this day. Ditto South Park.

In fact you couldn’t have made those shows back in the eighties or most of the nineties. There’s just no way.

There’s also that cartoon on Netflix called Big Mouth which has hundreds of sex jokes per season.

American Vandal Season 1 involved a crime where someone drew a cock and balls on the bonnet of 27 cars belonging to teachers. Season 2 involved investigating a crime where someone put laxatives in the canteen lemonade and caused hundreds of students to get sudden and explosive loss of bowel control.

There’s a wealth of puerile comedy for those of us who were lucky enough to have our sense of humour stop developing at 14.

El_Duderino 09 · 22-09-2019 9:57am

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Nothing to do with PC - plenty of non-PC movies out there.

Problem is most of the modern comedies focus on cheap laughs (case in point, Rogen) and toilet humour and look more like teenage lampoon movies than actual comedies. The subtlety of Monty Python, for example, has never been replicated.

Subtlety of monty python. Are you doing comedy now? Monty python was closer to slapstick than subtlety. Monty python really only gets laughs through nostalgias now. It’s not very funny anymore. It’s certainly not relevant to what’s happening in culture, but that’s not it’s fault, It’s just old.

But the bit in bold holds the answer. The OP could be phrased thusly: teenage comedies were funny when I was a teenager. Now teenage comedies are stupid and not funny.

Imagine seriously not realising that your own sense of comedy changes over time. There are plenty of comedies aimed at older adults. But probably fewer than are aimed at young people. There probably aren’t many comedies aimed at people over 60 for example. So as you get older they’ll be making fewer and fewer comedies for you.

Standard of films comedy today.

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