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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #5612
    Vivienne23
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭Vivienne23


    Could we be getting on top of this !

    I know a local area is getting an isolation centre built by the HSE so they wouldn’t be building it if they thought we didn’t need it , seems conflicting with our numbers , any idea if the city west one is in use ?


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    #5613
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    There will be growth every day. Its sad and its horrible but it will happen.

    It's growing and it's growing too fast but without restrictions it would be a lot more.

    Dailly testing numbers as of yesterday are staying similar to a week ago. We won't see a surge in case numbers if we don't test more.


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    #5614
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    It's not horrible, it's pragmatic. The growth slowing is the best we can hope for right now.


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    #5615
    Stheno
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    What is good is that the rate of growth is slowing
    A month ago cases were growing 33% a month ago now its 6 % which is a positive news


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    #5616
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    It means the ship is turning but not facing the right direction yet
    It may not be "good" but it's a "good sign"


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    #5617
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.
    What they are really looking at is a downward trend. It's a whole lot less now than it was.


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    #5618
    RocketRaccoon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    My aunt was one of the 25 today, an awful feeling.


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    #5619
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    You're going to have a tough time of it with that line of thinking. We're holding steady that's progress.


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    #5620
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,927 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    A growth in cases is good???

    It's impossible to have a decrease in cases.


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    #5621
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Vivienne23 wrote: »
    Could we be getting on top of this !

    I know a local area is getting an isolation centre built by the HSE so they wouldn’t be building it if they thought we didn’t need it , seems conflicting with our numbers , any idea if the city west one is in use ?

    ICU is full and they can't take in new patients now. That's the real problem now.


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    #5622
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.

    Because they're saying that the growth in nunber of cases has stayed small. Relatively speaking, it is good.

    But the case numbers are meaningless given what we know about testing


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    #5623
    bennyl10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,509 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    A growth in cases is good???

    Yes.
    Any growth below 10% Is very good


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    #5624
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    My aunt was one of the 25 today, an awful feeling.
    Sorry to hear that. My condolences to you and your family.


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    #5625
    branie2
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    May the 25 people who died rest in peace


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    #5626
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users Posts: 4,800 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Edwina Currie was on Sean O'Rourke this morning and saying that the Irish situation is worse per capita than the UK.
    A load of old crap Edwina.
    O'Rourke did not correct her on this. They have nearly 4 times as many deaths per capita and the only reason that we have more cases per capita is we do more testing.


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    #5627
    Rvsmmnps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 151 ✭✭Rvsmmnps


    What was the average age of the people that passed away today? Probably in or around 80,,they prob had a few underlying illnesses too right?


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    #5628
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    A growth in cases is good???

    Trolling or naivety? Can't quite figure you out.


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    #5629
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,927 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    ICU is full and they can't take in new patients now. That's the real problem now.

    Stop telling lies


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    #5630
    Stheno
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    RocketRaccoon wrote: »
    My aunt was one of the 25 today, an awful feeling.

    Sorry for your loss

    May she RIP


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    #5631
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    normanoffside wrote: »
    It's impossible to have a decrease in cases.

    What? Of course it is, it’s just too soon for that.


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    #5632
    Alf Veedersane
    Registered Users Posts: 24,552 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    ICU is full and they can't take in new patients now. That's the real problem now.

    The normal ICU in the Mater was said to be full. But it still has ICU capacity.

    Quite a way from ICU being full.


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    #5633
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    My point is any type of growth is not good. How can anyone say a 6% growth is good? It's horrible thinking.


    It's realistic. Were you expecting zero cases to be announced today and an end to the restrictions tomorrow?


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    #5634
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,927 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    What? Of course it is, it’s just too soon for that.

    They are counting total accumulative positive tests, so you are wrong.


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    #5635
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Speak Now wrote: »
    Not a surge but every death is a tragedy.

    No it’s not. Every single times someone dies it is very sad for loved ones but only certain circumstances are tragic.


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    #5636
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    It's not horrible, it's pragmatic. The growth slowing is the best we can hope for right now.

    The growth isn't slowing when we aren't testing enough and people with symptoms waiting to be tested.


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    #5637
    Stheno
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    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    ICU is full and they can't take in new patients now. That's the real problem now.

    That's incorrect, the original ICU beds in some hospitals are full

    They have additional beds


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    #5638
    [Deleted User]
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    branie2 wrote: »
    May the 25 people who died rest in peace

    Bodies are starting to pile up abit now alright


    They expecting 800 to 1000,we're at 210,so a fair bit to go yet, unfortunately


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    #5639
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    normanoffside wrote: »
    It's impossible to have a decrease in cases.
    In the number of new cases, yes.


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    #5640
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Stop telling lies
    Confirmed that ICUs are at practicable capacity in three of the major hospitals in Dublin.


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    #5641
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 15,199 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Stop telling lies

    Yup as has been explained it's the original ICU beds in some hospitals that are full, the mater is 18 originally. They all have surge plans and extra capacity


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