Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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Deleted User wrote: »

I never get the only 1 2 players in the top x shot over par,

All the others who started inside the top 10 on the day are much worse off after shooting over par, it stands to reason most players who finish in the top 10 shot under par on the last day. it just shows how well he played the other days.

thats not to try excuse his last round, i just find it a odd criticism

Are they not talking about players who were in the top X going into the final round, rather than those who ended up in the top X?

I think the caddie thing is a bit of a red herring to be honest. Plenty of top players have caddies with completely random backgrounds. The player needs to be happy and some players react differently to a kick up the hole or an arm around the shoulder. If you're hitting a hook for some unknown reason on a given day, I'd imagine the last thing you want to hear is some caddie telling you to get the finger out. The player will be well aware he needs to hit better shots. That said, I certainly wouldn't object to seeing a grizzled old veteran on his bag.

On Sky last night they were talking about player caddie relationships and Beem mentioned that, in general, the trend in the US is for the relationships to be more long term whereas he noticed in Europe that caddies/players chop and change much more often.

Rory does need to see if he can do something about how he deals with pressure situations against "hard ba$tards" who won't give an inch. Who knows, maybe he won't be able to and will always be that incredibly talented player who, on a week he's hot, is unbeatable, and manages to win twice a season almost despite himself. He just needs to be lucky enough that those hot weeks coincide with a major rather than the Canadian Open.

I'm a huge fan of his but you'd have to say if Rory and Brooks went head to head (in something that mattered) another 10 times, I'd pick Koepka to win 8 of them. I'd love to see him get back to the player he was when he won at Kiawah in very windy conditions and dominated Tiger in R3.

I'd be the last man to attribute a label to a golfer. We all know how mad this game can be. But there seems to be a worrying trend developing for Rory. When put under the gun, 'today you need to do it', he seems to lose his mojo or whatever you wanna call it. When the pressure is less, because its a smaller event or he is more or less out of it because of a bad day 1 or 2, then he performs like he genius. But when put under the spotlight and it actually matters - real pressure if you like - he cant seem to make it happen.

I’d have to disagree with the posters who downplay the importance of good caddies, some need them more than others. Though Mcilroy defended JP at times by saying having a friend on tour is more important than a caddy, I think to curb his natural instinct to always go for the pin rather than play safe when it is called for, he needs a caddy more than a friend.

Shane and Bo know each other for years, but on the 14 on Saturday when Lowry was in the rough, it was Bo who told him what needed to be done, play the percentage low shot up the left rather than the high draw.

Mcilroy’s been on tour since he was a teenager, he has a strong personality and he calls the shots off and on course, maybe it is now too late for him to take advice when he needs it. He needs a caddy more than he needs a friend right now.

Remind me wrote: »

He has improved all aspects of his game this year, multiple winner including the Players, 2nd behind the hottest player in world golf in the fedex, up to 3rd in the world.

Yes he will be judged on majors and the Open was certainly a massive disappointment but to say he will just stop playing the game?!

THIS.

slave1 wrote: »

No probably, according to the Official Golf Rankings Koepka is #1 with 355points gained this season, Rory a distant second at 294points followed by DJ and a certain Mr Shane Lowry in 4th!!!

So he is second..... Behind the most in form golfer in the world.

Iang87 wrote: »

In the same instance Harry was over chatting to Brooks caddy and the two of them were having a fine old chuckle. I'm not saying he can't chat or whatever but in that moment it didnt look right.
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I can see the point you're making, but at that stage the tournament was over, no point in not talking or sulking. Plus Koepka's caddie is also from Northern Ireland, and I think I've read was a good golfer, so they probably know each other.
These guys will be working together for the next 15 years or so, no harm in getting on.

Remind me wrote: »

Was he?

A lot of fairway woods being hit and Rory was well ahead of Brooks with most from what I saw.

Ya, commentators remarked that even though he may be physically smaller, Mcilroy was often outdriving Keopke and is one of the few capable of doing so.

GreeBo wrote: »

"Show me someone who isn't bothered by losing and I'll show you a loser." springs to mind though.
I cant say for certain but the likes of Koepka, Poulter, Faldo, Woods are never happy when they are losing. (Tiger has changed this over the years, but his career is going one way these days...)
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I take that point alright, but equally you can be bothered by losing and still talk to people. Being bothered by losing doesn't equal being an ignorant d1ck IMO.

Please don't include Poulter on a list of champions like that though :D

I think it was obvious by his demeanour on 18 that Rory was upset/disappointed/frustrated the way things turned out.

slave1 wrote: »

Same caddy as was there for Rory's big win in The Players and then again in Canada.
Poor caddy life, nothing said when Rory win's or plays well but a contributing factor when he plays bad.
The same caddy was there Saturday when Rory had his 62.

At the end of the day the buck stops with the player, caddy never takes a shot

Do you not think that it is when he is under pressure or stressed that he would benefit from an experienced professional caddy?

From playing a lot with a former tour player, his opinion is they are there to carry your bag when you don’t need them, and there to advise you when you do.

What constitutes a ‘proper caddy’ DJ has his brother, Sergio his brother, Spieth an old school teacher.

Ronan Flood got slated in many quarters but went on to caddy in 3 major victories.

Keano wrote: »

Flip that question on its head and do you think with a well experienced caddy that Rory would be a more consistent wedge player or putter?

I honestly don’t, unless you have a caddy who is really good at reading greens. I think the benefit is as a detached sounding board who might tell you things you don’t want to here, or calm you down when you are getting tight.

There is a famous story about Faldo, a notoriously strong character who was starting to lose the plot on the final few holes of a major, Fanny, his caddy, asked him if he ever considered getting a dog, for the next couple of holes all they talked about was dogs, he credits her with helping him win. Only a detached, strong personality like Fanny could do that without risking the wrath or ridicule of the pro.

What struck me last night was how close both were on the fairways and even on the greens, but Keopke would bend down, have a quick look and then bury the putt, without any tension or doubt.