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Water Charges / Tax / Demonstrations / Irish Water / Meter Installations etc etc

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    #92
    olliesgirl55
    Registered Users Posts: 150 ✭✭olliesgirl55


    Ogham wrote: »
    Some more figures on expected metered water bills here -

    http://www.moneyguideireland.com/metered-water-charges-how-much-will-they-be.html

    According to this a single person using the widely quoted average of 150l a day (55000 lt a year) will be charged about €77 a year on a meter but €195 without a meter.
    That is total BS why should they penalize unmetered properties. It's their bloody fault that the meter hasn't been installed.
    I have always been a person that conserved water wherever I lived because I don't believe in waste. So I am going to be charged more than double because Irish Water haven't figured out how to meter flats yet. God this has to be the most unfair system I have ever seen.:mad:


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    #93
    jiminho
    Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭jiminho


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Both statements are untrue.

    Care to explain?


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    #94
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    jiminho wrote: »
    Care to explain?
    Farmers on the public supply have been metered and paying for their water for years, no wastage also people with private wells don't waste water.

    Private wells will not be metered.


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    #95
    jiminho
    Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭jiminho


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Farmers on the public supply have been metered and paying for their water for years, no wastage also people with private wells don't waste water.

    Private wells will not be metered.

    Generally people who are metered are more conscious of their water usage, so you're telling me the only people who don't waste water are the people who are already metered??? :rolleyes: Obviously private wells won't be metered but they have other costs like electricity for pump, filtration system, chemical system etc. so you're just being silly.


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    #96
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    jiminho wrote: »
    Generally people who are metered are more conscious of their water usage, so you're telling me the only people who don't waste water are the people who are already metered??? :rolleyes: Obviously private wells won't be metered but they have other costs like electricity for pump, filtration system, chemical system etc. so you're just being silly.

    No I know plenty people that weren't metered that don't waste water, you said everyone in Ireland wasted water. Sure everyone with private wells pay the cost of installation and maintenance but they won't be metered.


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    #97
    jiminho
    Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭jiminho


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    No I know plenty people that weren't metered that don't waste water, you said everyone in Ireland wasted water. Sure everyone with private wells pay the cost of installation and maintenance but they won't be metered.

    You're taking what I said far too literally. If it makes you happy I can rephrase what I wrote:

    "Bingo!! but tbf, everyone the majority of people in Ireland are wasteful with their water. Everyone, besides people who have already been metered for years and/or have private wells, will get metered eventually."

    Sorted ;)


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    #98
    mail
    Registered Users Posts: 134 ✭✭mail


    Hi , I would like to know who may be responsible for the new water charges in a rental property. Will the water be classed as a utility bill the same as electricity that the tennant must pay?


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    #99
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Tenant pays. It's a utility bill based on usage, or is supposed to be.


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    #100
    discodavie
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭discodavie


    Yes, why not ? Not like the landlord is using it is it ?


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    #101
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,264 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Why wouldn't it be? It's a utility that is consumed by the tenant


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    #102
    hfallada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    discodavie wrote: »
    Yes, why not ? Not like the landlord is using it is it ?

    You would be surprised with the amount of tenants that will genieuely be shocked when you tell them they are responsible for paying a TV licence. Even through the user should pay


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    #103
    hp1
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭hp1


    hfallada wrote: »
    You would be surprised with the amount of tenants that will genieuely be shocked when you tell them they are responsible for paying a TV licence. Even through the user should pay
    If the tv is provided on the house the landlord is responsible.


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    #104
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    who here has:

    A. filled out their IW application

    B. returned it to sender???


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    #105
    ted1
    Registered Users Posts: 23,264 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    hp1 wrote: »
    If the tv is provided on the house the landlord is responsible.

    No it's the occupiers.


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    #106
    irlirishkev
    Registered Users Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭irlirishkev


    hp1 wrote: »
    If the tv is provided on the house the landlord is responsible.

    Wrong :rolleyes:


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    #107
    hp1
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭hp1


    irlirishkev wrote: »
    Wrong :rolleyes:

    Oops.

    Rented accommodation
    If you are a tenant living in rented accommodation with a television you must have a television licence. This applies irrespective of who owns the television (whether the television belongs to you or the landlord). The law states that anyone resident on a premises in possession of a television set must have a television licence.


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    #108
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    V.W.L 11 wrote: »
    who here has:

    A. filled out their IW application

    B. returned it to sender???

    Sitting on it till further discussion with landlord
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    #109
    garhjw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,424 ✭✭✭garhjw


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Why?

    Possibly feeling lonely and just needs someone to talk to


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    #110
    Oral Surgeon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Gatling wrote: »
    Sitting on it till further discussion with landlord

    Why, do you need help writing your pps number??


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    #111
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Why?

    Hes anti water charges , he's all above board but in his own words they cant turn off water the apartment or fit a meter ,
    To him there is no real consequence to not paying as it stands were the only ones in out block that havent left the pack for the postman to collect "return to sender "
    19 out of 20 apartments in our block have left the packs as marked above
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    #112
    MouseTail
    Registered Users Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭MouseTail


    Gatling wrote: »
    Sitting on it till further discussion with landlord
    Why do you need to discuss with LL? They will already have got their LL pack and sent back the details, unless its a complicated set up, the process is straight forward.


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    #113
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    MouseTail wrote: »
    Why do you need to discuss with LL? They will already have got their LL pack and sent back the details,

    He dropped his pack in here last week unopened its sitting in a drawer with our pack ,
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    #114
    Baby01032012
    Registered Users Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭Baby01032012


    There's a lot of confusion over who must register with Irish water. My wife got a registration pack for our residence. I got a pack for the rental property I have addressed to me at our residence. It is very unclear how I am supposed to fill in the form on behalf of the occupants.


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    #115
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    Gatling wrote: »
    Sitting on it till further discussion with landlord

    I shall be writing "return to sender "


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    #116
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭whippet


    V.W.L 11 wrote: »
    I shall be writing "return to sender "


    Good look with that !

    The amount of seemingly intelligent people who have been sucked in by this "return to sender" "no contract - no consent" myth is worrying.


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    #117
    Grandpa Hassan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭Grandpa Hassan


    whippet wrote: »
    Good look with that !

    The amount of seemingly intelligent people who have been sucked in by this "return to sender" "no contract - no consent" myth is worrying.

    Its like everyone thinks it's just magically going to go away


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    #118
    eeepaulo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭eeepaulo


    My issue is that i have a sceptic tank and a well drilled.

    According to citizens advice i wont be charged.

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/water_services/water_charges.html

    But they expect me to 'apply for the free allowanes'?

    Can i expect more letters from other private companies that i have nothing to do with?

    Maybe ryanair is going to write to me and ask for a copy of my passport.


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    #119
    V.W.L 11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,586 ✭✭✭V.W.L 11


    whippet wrote: »
    Good look with that !

    The amount of seemingly intelligent people who have been sucked in by this "return to sender" "no contract - no consent" myth is worrying.
    I never said anything about that it all I said was I am putting down "return to sender" nothing more


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    #120
    cichlid child
    Registered Users Posts: 644 ✭✭✭cichlid child


    Grandpa Hassan wrote: »
    Its like everyone thinks it's just magically going to go away
    I am not saying if anyone should or should not fill out the form but a few years ago the government sent out a water charges bill. When most of Dublin burnt the bill the amount was dropped and a few people ended up paying. A friend of mine paid for the first 2 years i think.
    So it magically went away for most people.


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    #121
    whippet
    Registered Users Posts: 7,668 ✭✭✭whippet


    V.W.L 11 wrote: »
    I never said anything about that it all I said was I am putting down "return to sender" nothing more

    Can you let us know why you are doing this? Do you not want to recieve the correct bills?


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