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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread VIII - ** MOD NOTE POST #4781 **

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    #92
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users Posts: 4,236 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Is O'Loughlin in as a centre? Surprised he's there ahead of Byrne otherwise.

    Plays centre and wing.


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    #93
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Is O'Loughlin in as a centre? Surprised he's there ahead of Byrne otherwise.

    Yup, thought that he might get the nod when Olding was injured alright. Has had a great season. Big reward.


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    #94
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    TOD is a bit of a surprise. No Sean Cronin is a shocker actually.


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    #95
    connemara man
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 6,773 Mod ✭✭✭✭connemara man


    Former Former wrote: »
    reland Squad Summer Tour 2017 - USA & Japan

    Forwards
    Finlay Bealham (Buccaneers/Connacht) 6 caps
    Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster) 1 cap
    Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 67 caps
    Dave Heffernan (Connacht/Buccaneers)*
    Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 17 caps
    Dan Leavy (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
    Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster) 12 caps
    Jack O'Donoghue (UL Bohemians/Munster) 1 cap
    Andrew Porter (UCD/Leinster)*
    Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster) 13 caps
    James Ryan (UCD/Leinster)*
    John Ryan (Cork Constitution/Munster) 6 caps
    Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) 4 caps
    Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 47 caps
    James Tracy (UCD/Leinster) 2 caps
    Kieran Treadwell (Ballymena/Ulster)*
    Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 7 caps

    Backs
    Joey Carbery (Clontarf/Leinster) 3 caps
    Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) 1 cap
    John Cooney (Connacht)*
    Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 59 caps
    Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster) 23 caps
    Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) 13 caps
    Luke Marshall (Ballymena/Ulster) 9 caps
    Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 1 cap
    Tiernan O'Halloran (Buccaneers/Connacht) 3 caps
    Rory O'Loughlin (Old Belvedere/Leinster)*
    Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 8 caps
    Rory Scannell (Dolphin/Munster)*
    Jacob Stockdale (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)*
    Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster) 33 caps

    Can't argue against that really. Odd that Ryan is there without a pro start, Heffernan is a surprise given that he's mainly used from the bench, I'm disappointed for Buckley but I've spoken to coaches and understand why he hasn't been picked before or now ( doesn't mean I like it though) back 3 depth is the main need from this tour so I'm happy to see good performances given a chance in camp


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    #96
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    An additional player is going to be added after the semi finals...

    Worth noting that no captain has been named. Rob Kearney might well be that man.


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    #97
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Former Former wrote: »
    Wow, did NOT see that coming.

    Trimble the biggest omission. Sean Cronin too.

    Sean Cronin is a big surprise for me... Surely he must have an injury or something? Noone really saw that coming.


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    #98
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    The players that we need to move on from in the next year or so aren't there. I'm thrilled. It's a very progressive selection with enough established players there to maintain continuity.


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    #99
    case885
    Registered Users Posts: 2,536 ✭✭✭case885


    Espn901/scrights will be looking for his apology :D


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    #100
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,713 ✭✭✭✭phog


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    TOD is a bit of a surprise. No Sean Cronin is a shocker actually.

    Yes, Tommy hadn't a great season , Cronin was listed recently as having a neck injury


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    #101
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    TOD is a bit of a surprise. No Sean Cronin is a shocker actually.

    Who is there to call up aside from TOD? SOB2, I guess?

    TOD is the one guy that does stand out as a bit of a bag carrier, though. Tracy lucky enough too, for me.

    Cronin isn't there but he has barely played this year. Would imagine he's still very much in plans.


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    #102
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    LH: Healy, Kilcoyne
    HK: Scannell, Tracy, Heffernan
    TH: Bealham, Porter, Ryan
    LK: Ryan, Toner, Treadwell
    BS: Ruddock, Leavy
    OS: TOD, VDF
    N8: Conan, JOD

    SH: Cooney, Marmion, McGrath
    OH: Carbery, Jackson
    IC: Marshall, Scannell
    OC: ROL, Ringrose
    WG: Earls, Stockdale, Zebo
    FB: Conway, TOH


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    #103
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,713 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Six Nations Fixtures

    Six Nations fixtures 2018

    3/4 February

    Wales v Scotland Sat 2.15

    France v Ireland Sat 4.45

    Italy v England Sun 3.00



    10/11 February

    Ireland v Italy Sat 2.15

    England v Wales Sat 4.45

    Scotland v France Sun 3.00



    23/24 February

    France v Italy Fri 8.00

    Ireland v Wales Sat 2.15

    Scotland v England Sat 4.45



    10/11 March

    Ireland v Scotland Sat 2.15

    France v England Sat 4.45

    Wales v Italy Sun 3.00



    17 March

    Italy v Scotland Sat 12.30

    England v Ireland Sat 2.45

    Wales v France Sat 5.00



    Six Nations fixtures 2019

    1/2 February

    France v Wales Fri 8.00

    Scotland v Italy Sat 2.15

    Ireland v England Sat 4.45



    9/10 February

    Scotland v Ireland Sat 2.15

    Italy v Wales Sat 4.45

    England v France Sun 3.00



    23/24 February

    France v Scotland Sat 2.15

    Wales v England Sat 4.45

    Italy v Ireland Sun 3.00



    9/10 March

    Scotland v Wales Sat 2.15

    England v Italy Sat 4.45

    Ireland v France Sun 3.00



    16 March

    Italy v France Sat 12.30

    Wales v Ireland Sat 2.45

    England v Scotland 5.00


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    #104
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Buer wrote: »
    An additional player is going to be added after the semi finals...

    Worth noting that no captain has been named. Rob Kearney might well be that man.

    Yeah, that is an interesting line.

    It's not an Ulster player anyway, as they're not playing this weekend. You'd assume its someone like Heaslip or Kearney who are touch and go with fitness.


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    #105
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The players that we need to move on from in the next year or so aren't there. I'm thrilled. It's a very progressive selection with enough established players there to maintain continuity.

    I guarantee people will still have a whinge about the omissions in the back three...


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    #106
    Niallof9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Niallof9


    Former Former wrote: »
    I blame Schmidt entirely. Like, we've only capped five different hookers in the last 12 months. What's he playing at? Only seven second rows and a measly eleven different players in the back three.

    hashtag joeout.

    Yeah those caps against Canada were great alright. Nice jolly. Pity our back three is piss poor and none even considered for lions first 15's.

    There's a difference between capping players one off and trusting them to come in.

    Half of you guy's wanted to ditch Ringrose at 13.

    For those guy's the egg must be hard to wipe off.


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    #107
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,358 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Excellent selection. :)

    Everyone who should be left at home has been left at home and plenty of young lads in the problematic areas of the squad.


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    #108
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Well, with only three locks named, you can be assured that James Ryan is gonna be the first man since BOD to play for Ireland before his province.


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    #109
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    molloyjh wrote: »
    LH: Healy, Kilcoyne
    HK: Scannell, Tracy, Heffernan
    TH: Bealham, Porter, Ryan
    LK: Ryan, Toner, Treadwell
    BS: Ruddock, Leavy
    OS: TOD, VDF
    N8: Conan, JOD

    SH: Cooney, Marmion, McGrath
    OH: Carbery, Jackson
    IC: Marshall, Scannell
    OC: ROL, Ringrose
    WG: Earls, Stockdale, Zebo
    FB: Conway, TOH

    Strongest side:

    Healy, Scannell, Ryan, Toner, Treadwell, Leavy, JVDF, Conan
    Marmion, Jackson, Earls, Scannell, Ringrose, Conway, Zebo

    Tracy, Kilcoyne, Bealham, Ruddock, JOD, McGrath, Carbery, TOH

    I'd expect a weaker lineup in the US game first.


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    #110
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users Posts: 8,724 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Is O'Loughlin in as a centre? Surprised he's there ahead of Byrne otherwise.

    He's versatile and Byrne isn't, same reason Conway was picked ahead of Sweetnam whose first choice ahead of him at club level. I'm sure lads like Byrne who have big potential will get a look in during the autumn internationals when squad sizes don't need to be limited so makes sense to bring players who can fill in more than one position.


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    #111
    damianmcr
    Registered Users Posts: 740 ✭✭✭damianmcr


    Buer wrote: »
    Well, with only three locks named, you can be assured that James Ryan is gonna be the first man since BOD to play for Ireland before his province.
    Thon Kiwi prop?


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    #112
    phog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,713 ✭✭✭✭phog


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    #113
    Niallof9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Niallof9


    awec wrote: »
    Excellent selection. :)

    Everyone who should be left at home has been left at home and plenty of young lads in the problematic areas of the squad.

    well i think Adam Byrne deserved a call. But hard to not get excited


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    #114
    [Deleted User]
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    Strange to think that Ringrose is one of the most experienced members of that squad


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    #115
    Niallof9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Niallof9


    Also Jack O'Donoghue has been pants.


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    #116
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    So scrights was right about Ryan anyway. Good shout there. Molony will be very disappointed with that though. And he's been going well lately.

    Cronins neck injury must be worse than Leinster are letting on. If he really was touch and go for this weekend you'd imagine he'd be given the nod for the tour. This year has been pretty crappy for him in that regard.

    Ruddock must be covering the second row if we're only bringing 3 in total. And Toner must be nowhere near Gatlands plans (which is fair enough given his form of late). Not sure I'd have brought TOD ahead of SOB2.0 but otherwise that's a good back row.

    Half backs as expected really, as are the centres. Hopefully Scannell gets the starts ahead of Marshall. ROL must be covering centre and wing, especially as we know that Ringrose has an outside shot of getting called up to the Lions. Marshall is probably covering 12 and 13 too.

    I expected Byrne to be excluded tbh, but am surprised Sweetnam has been too. Would have thought one of those two would have been in. We're really only looking at 2 new back three options on the tour, maybe 3 if you include TOH I suppose. Personally I'd have preferred an additional young lad in there. That said it's still a fairly small squad so it was always going to be impossible to fit everyone in.

    Overall it's an exciting looking squad. I would worry though that it is fairly green. That shouldn't matter against USA, but might make Japan a tougher ask than people expect.


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    #117
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    damianmcr wrote: »
    Thon Kiwi prop?

    Yes, Michael Bent.

    Buer should be sacked


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    #118
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    damianmcr wrote: »
    Thon Kiwi prop?

    I should have said senior side instead of province, I suppose!


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    #119
    Quint2010
    Registered Users Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭Quint2010


    Buer wrote: »
    Well, with only three locks named, you can be assured that James Ryan is gonna be the first man since BOD to play for Ireland before his province.

    Michael Bent no?


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    #120
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,669 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Basically so long and thanks for everything, Donnacha. I'm a bit surprised he hasn't made the squad tbh.


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    #121
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Niallof9 wrote: »
    Also Jack O'Donoghue has been pants.

    Who else is there? Ireland are down 4 players due to injury and Lions.


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