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2017 Local authority SEO competition

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    #62
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Six of One wrote: »
    What is the process now, usually? Supervised test in the PAS office on abbey st, then review application, then interview is that it?

    That's my understanding, yes.


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    #63
    Decinho
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭Decinho


    prettyboy81 wrote: »
    Got through! I think from the pass mark set there will be a lot getting through to supervised tests.

    I wonder will we be called in batches for supervised tests based on how we scored.

    Yeah that's how I would expect it to be done but weirdly they didn't rank us.


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    #64
    gerrybbadd
    Registered Users Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Failed the management scenario test, passed everything else. Feck It!


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    #65
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    Failed the management scenario test, passed everything else. Feck It!

    Hard luck, it's a tough one and I always think a subjective topic. In the others you are either right or wrong, but there is seldom such a clear cut approach in the management section. I also find that a private industry vs public sector mindset can be quite different. ;)


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    #66
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Monday 28th August here we go.
    A re-test of the Verbal Reasoning & Numerical Reasoning Tests.
    So no management assessment then.


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    #67
    Riverstown1
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭Riverstown1


    Well done everyone!! I too got an email today for the supervised assessment. Would anyone know of a practice link for these assessments. Its the first time I've done anything like this.


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    #68
    prettyboy81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    I wonder is everyone who passed the qualifying score getting called to Stage 2 supervised test?


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    #69
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    prettyboy81 wrote: »
    I wonder is everyone who passed the qualifying score getting called to Stage 2 supervised test?

    Yes, they are.


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    #70
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Riverstown1 wrote: »
    Well done everyone!! I too got an email today for the supervised assessment. Would anyone know of a practice link for these assessments. Its the first time I've done anything like this.

    They'll be exactly the same format as the unsupervised. Possibly even the same questions (or questions from the same set of questions, if that makes sense).


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    #71
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Does anyone happen to know the criteria for not getting kicked out after the unsupervised tests?

    For the APO, you couldn't score more than 10% or 15% lower or higher than in the unsupervised. Lower I can understand, obviously, but not letting people improve too much seems bizarre and perverse.


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    #72
    Nerd Queen
    Registered Users Posts: 301 ✭✭Nerd Queen


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    Does anyone happen to know the criteria for not getting kicked out after the unsupervised tests?

    For the APO, you couldn't score more than 10% or 15% lower or higher than in the unsupervised. Lower I can understand, obviously, but not letting people improve too much seems bizarre and perverse.

    Its 15% and its the same for this too i'd say!

    Does anyone know whether the order of merit positions will be done on verbal and management as the APO and most PAS comps are? Or are they including numerical? No management verification is odd.


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    #73
    Tabnabs
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Got my appointment. Keep hitting that redial button!


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    #74
    prettyboy81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    No issues getting an appointment, I say it rang for about 2 minutes.

    Six slots a day available over week & half.


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    #75
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    prettyboy81 wrote: »
    No issues getting an appointment, I say it rang for about 2 minutes.

    Six slots a day available over week & half.

    40-ish ppl per slot, 240/day... 1900-ish people! Jebus!


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    #76
    Decinho
    Registered Users Posts: 94 ✭✭Decinho


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    40-ish ppl per slot, 240/day... 1900-ish people! Jebus!

    That is ridiculous!!!! So say 1700 get through, they aren't going to interview 1700 surely. It could be an absolute waste of time going up and doing these tests as they never ranked us to give us an idea where we came.


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    #77
    prettyboy81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    Decinho wrote: »
    That is ridiculous!!!! So say 1700 get through, they aren't going to interview 1700 surely. It could be an absolute waste of time going up and doing these tests as they never ranked us to give us an idea where we came.

    Those figures include the other competitions running in tandem with the SEO competition for Public Service. We are all sitting the same test.

    From memory
    Senior Planner
    Senior Executive Planner
    Senior Engineer
    Senior Executive Engineer

    I would think that there is approx 1,000 through nationally for SEO with the remainder spread across the 4 other competitions.


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    #78
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Yep, five different competitions, and apparently it's only five sessions a day, not six.


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    #79
    GryffLion
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2 ✭GryffLion


    Session booked. Best of luck to all


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    #80
    passinginterest
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭passinginterest


    Just received some feedback on the online tests. Helps to at least estimate how the results compare to others. Very pleased with my verbal and the others were reasonable.


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    #81
    tungsten
    Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭tungsten


    Do you think the average score is the average of all 5 competitions (seo,sp,se,sep,see) or just the average of the one competition i applied for? The average for numerical is high on my feedback sheet.


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    #82
    MurfballEng
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭MurfballEng


    so for stage two are we required to stay within the bands that we scored in? what happens if we score better second time around?


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    #83
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    MurfballEng wrote: »
    so for stage two are we required to stay within the bands that we scored in? what happens if we score better second time around?

    That's a good question. They kicked people out of the APO competition for scoring too well in the supervised tests compared to the unsupervised, which makes not a lick of sense. I might phone them and see what's said...


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    #84
    dee75
    Registered Users Posts: 337 ✭✭dee75


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    That's a good question. They kicked people out of the APO competition for scoring too well in the supervised tests compared to the unsupervised, which makes not a lick of sense. I might phone them and see what's said...

    I'm not sure that's correct. I know of one person in AP competition who scored more than 15% worse who was then excluded. (I think they successfully appealed that as their "bad" score was still extremely high)

    I scored quite a bit better in each category and I definitely wasn't kicked out! I think the pressure of the supervised test combined with the fact that I practised even more meant I performed very well on the day.

    Good luck to you all.


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    #85
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    dee75 wrote: »
    I'm not sure that's correct. I know of one person in AP competition who scored more than 15% worse who was then excluded. (I think they successfully appealed that as their "bad" score was still extremely high)

    I scored quite a bit better in each category and I definitely wasn't kicked out! I think the pressure of the supervised test combined with the fact that I practised even more meant I performed very well on the day.

    Good luck to you all.

    It is correct, unfortunately.

    Kicking people out because they performed worse in the supervised than the unsupervised at least has a logical reason behind it (the assumption being they had help or someone else did the test for them in the unsupervised).

    But in the AP competition before last (2015, I think), I worked with someone who just scraped through the unsupervised, so they did practice tests and improved by more than 15% in the supervised, and were excluded as a result. Unfortunately, they didn't pursue it.


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    #86
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    Yup, spoke to PAS, there's "an expected range of scores" you need to get between your original scores.


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    #87
    MurfballEng
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭MurfballEng


    TaurenDruid wrote: »
    Yup, spoke to PAS, there's "an expected range of scores" you need to get between your original scores.

    thank you for checking :)


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    #88
    nebraska132
    Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭nebraska132


    was going to take the day off to attend the session but i wonder if it is just a re-test of the numerical and verbal reasoning tests - is there any need to dress formally for this stage


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    #89
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    nebraska132 wrote: »
    was going to take the day off to attend the session but i wonder if it is just a re-test of the numerical and verbal reasoning tests - is there any need to dress formally for this stage

    It is just a re-test. Two twelve-minute tests but remember sign-in and faffing about reading instructions, too. About an hour in total, give or take. I've a late test so just going to leave work early, no point losing a day's leave.

    No need at all to dress formally - dress for comfort.


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    #90
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,204 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    TaurenDruid wrote: »

    No need at all to dress formally - dress for comfort.

    Dress as you normally would for work


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    #91
    TaurenDruid
    Registered Users Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    "Dress as you normally would for work"

    I'm a performer in a burlesque show...


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