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Ireland Under 20 2018 6 Nations and World Championships

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  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    Mark fabian wasnt good and neither was o'Birne when he came on


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Any observations on Ulster players?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Any observations on Ulster players?

    I was reading a match report on the Ulster rugby website and the name Callum Smith was quite prominent. Don't know anything about him though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Fullback. Malone, I think.

    NEED BACKROWS.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Callum Smith was playing in the barbarian game. I'm pretty sure he played fly half for coleraine inst, and centre/fullback for Ulster interpro sides. According to the Ulster website, he's not in the academy. Maybe sub academy?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,742 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Fullback. Malone, I think.

    NEED BACKROWS.

    There are two or three promising back rows in the Academy, but they're only 18 or 19.

    It will be interesting to see who emerges from the Academy this season.

    Last year it was Stockdale and to a lesser extent Rob Lyttle. Matthew Rea and Nick Timoney are two who will hopefully get a decent shot this season, both being back rows.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    The Leinster u20 team was weak on paper

    Unconfirmed starting 15, all under-20 unlike Ulster.
    1. Jordan Duggan(Naas/Newbridge)
    2. Eoghan Clarke(CBC Monkstown)
    3. Jack Aungier(Suttonians/St. Fintans)
    4. Cormac Daly(Clontarf/North Kildare)
    5. Jack Dunne(St. Michaels)
    6. JJ O'Dea(Navan)
    7. Richard Dunne(DUFC/Blackrock)
    8. William Fay(Lansdowne/CBC Monkstown)
    9. Mark Fabian(Terenure)
    10. Conor Dean(St. Marys/Blackrock)
    11. Peter Sullivan(St. Andrews)
    12. Myles Carey(St. Mary's)
    13. Sean O'Brien(Clontarf/Mullingar)
    14. Peter Maher(Belvedere)
    15. Michael Silvester(DUFC/Clongowes)

    Notable players missing:
    Ronan Kelleher(Hooker/UCD/St. Michaels)
    Aaron Browne(Second Row/Old Wesley/Roscrea)
    Caelan Doris (Backrow/St. Marys/Blackrock)
    Hugh O'Sullivan(Scrumhalf/?/Belvedere)
    Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf/?/Blackrock)
    James Kenny(Scrumhalf/?/Gonzaga)
    Tommy O'Brien(Centre/Wing/UCD/Blackrock)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭Tarf1234


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    The Leinster u20 team was weak on paper

    Unconfirmed starting 15, all under-20 unlike Ulster.
    1. Jordan Duggan(Naas/Newbridge)
    2. Eoghan Clarke(CBC Monkstown)
    3. Jack Aungier(Suttonians/St. Fintans)
    4. Cormac Daly(Clontarf/North Kildare)
    5. Jack Dunne(St. Michaels)
    6. JJ O'Dea(Navan)
    7. Richard Dunne(DUFC/Blackrock)
    8. William Fay(Lansdowne/CBC Monkstown)
    9. Mark Fabian(Terenure)
    10. Conor Dean(St. Marys/Blackrock)
    11. Peter Sullivan(St. Andrews)
    12. James Hickey(DUFC/St. Michaels)
    13. Sean O'Brien(Clontarf/Mullingar)
    14. Peter Maher(Belvedere)
    15. Michael Silvester(DUFC/Clongowes)

    Notable players missing:
    Ronan Kelleher(Hooker/UCD/St. Michaels)
    Aaron Browne(Second Row/Old Wesley/Roscrea)
    Caelan Doris (Backrow/St. Marys/Blackrock)
    Hugh O'Sullivan(Scrumhalf/?/Belvedere)
    Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf/?/Blackrock)
    James Kenny(Scrumhalf/?/Gonzaga)
    Tommy O'Brien(Centre/Wing/UCD/Blackrock)
    That team is correct (not 100% on Hickey). Had never seen Peter Sullivan before, he's a very impressive athlete. Looks big enough to play pro already.
    I was told Hughie and Paddy Paterson are injured and James Kenny has quit. Apparently Kelleher has moved to LFC (good move for both if true)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    That team is correct (not 100% on Hickey). Had never seen Peter Sullivan before, he's a very impressive athlete. Looks big enough to play pro already.
    I was told Hughie and Paddy Paterson are injured and James Kenny has quit. Apparently Kelleher has moved to LFC (good move for both if true)

    The 12 i'm not sure about but it looks like Hickey I think..

    Heard Kenny was injured too, needed shoulder surgery but could be wrong.

    Bench(i think)
    16. Dan Sheehan(Clongowes)
    17. Adam Coyle(Naas)
    18. Joe Byrne(Blackrock)
    19. Cian Reilly(Blackrock)
    20. Max Kearney(Belvedere)
    21. Peter O'Beirne(St. Michaels)
    22. Harry Byrne(St. Michaels)
    23. Conor Dunne(Tullamore)
    24. Tom Roche(Blackrock)

    How'd Aungier get on at TH?
    How was Clarke's throwing in lineout?
    How'd the second rows do?

    Yeah heard similarly on Kelleher.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    That team is correct (not 100% on Hickey). Had never seen Peter Sullivan before, he's a very impressive athlete. Looks big enough to play pro already.
    I was told Hughie and Paddy Paterson are injured and James Kenny has quit. Apparently Kelleher has moved to LFC (good move for both if true)
    Hickey wasn't 12, not sure who was tbh


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  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    Any one no what the story with Charlie Ryan is?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭Tarf1234


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    The 12 i'm not sure about but it looks like Hickey I think..

    Heard Kenny was injured too, needed shoulder surgery but could be wrong.

    Bench(i think)
    16. Dan Sheehan(Clongowes)
    17. Adam Coyle(Naas)
    18. Joe Byrne(Blackrock)
    19. Cian Reilly(Blackrock)
    20. Max Kearney(Belvedere)
    21. Peter O'Beirne(St. Michaels)
    22. Harry Byrne(St. Michaels)
    23. Conor Dunne(Tullamore)
    24. Tom Roche(Blackrock)

    How'd Aungier get on at TH?
    How was Clarke's throwing in lineout?
    How'd the second rows do?

    Yeah heard similarly on Kelleher.
    Conor Doran was on the bench as well. Think the 12 was the Mary's guy but not 100%.
    Aungier went well but only got a half, one or 2 knock ons but scrummed and carried pretty well. Lineouts went pretty well with Clarke one or 2 not great but to be expected realistically. Both second rows went well plenty of carrying and work rate. Leinster were much the better team until Harry Byrne had to go off.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Any one no what the story with Charlie Ryan is?

    injured.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    Conor Doran was on the bench as well. Think the 12 was the Mary's guy but not 100%.
    Aungier went well but only got a half, one or 2 knock ons but scrummed and carried pretty well. Lineouts went pretty well with Clarke one or 2 not great but to be expected realistically. Both second rows went well plenty of carrying and work rate. Leinster were much the better team until Harry Byrne had to go off.

    Yeah you are right, the 12 was myles carey.

    u20's are over in parma at the moment to play italy u20's.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    Thanks, what about Tim Murphy?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Thanks, what about Tim Murphy?

    no idea.

    would have expected him to be ahead of O'Beirne/Fabian but only because he played A last year when they were in school.

    it would be a shame if Kenny wasn't involved with the sub academy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭Ayewserious


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    no idea.

    would have expected him to be ahead of O'Beirne/Fabian but only because he played A last year when they were in school.

    it would be a shame if Kenny wasn't involved with the sub academy.
    Murphy is obviously better then them. Probably injured or decided not to play. Same with Cagney


  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭RuPi


    Ulster Academy side lost 22-10 to an Ulster Club team this evening at Banbridge RFC.
    Academy Side
    ): Conor Kelly, Angus Kernohan, Josh Jordan, Rory Butler, Robert Balacoune, Callum Smith, Michael Stronge;
    (1-8): Eric O'Sullivan, Adam McBurney, Peter Cooper, Jack Regan, John McCusker, Aaron Hall, Stuart Doddington, Greg Jones.

    Replacements: Alexander Clarke, Anton Lupari, Josh Bill, Tommy O'Hagan, Tom O'Toole, Matthew Dalton, Matthew Agnew, Rhys O'Donnell, Stewart Moore.

    Club Side(15-9): Rodger McBurney (Ballymena RFC), Tom Caesar (Exile), Andrew Morrison (Banbridge RFC), Michael Cartmill (Malone RFC), Matthew Norris (Ballymena RFC), Chris Swash, Glen Bailey (Ballymena RFC);
    (1-8): Michael Cromie (Banbridge RFC), Peter Cromie (Banbridge RFC), Sean O'Hagan (Dungannon RFC), Ronan McCusker (Rainey RFC), Connor Smyth (Ballymena RFC), Robin Sinton (Banbridge RFC), Zac Ward (Ballynahinch RFC), Adrian Hamilton (Ballymena RFC).

    Replacements: Ross Harkin (City of Derry RFC), David Cave (Malone RFC), Darryl Morton (City of Armagh RFC), Steven Irvine (Banbridge RFC), James Gallagher (Harlequins), Richard Fahy, Jonny Little (Banbridge RFC), Michael Poskitt (Coleraine RFC)

    14 Under 20's involved.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    RuPi wrote: »
    Ulster Academy side lost 22-10 to an Ulster Club team this evening at Banbridge RFC.
    Academy Side
    ): Conor Kelly, Angus Kernohan, Josh Jordan, Rory Butler, Robert Balacoune, Callum Smith, Michael Stronge;
    (1-8): Eric O'Sullivan, Adam McBurney, Peter Cooper, Jack Regan, John McCusker, Aaron Hall, Stuart Doddington, Greg Jones.

    Replacements: Alexander Clarke, Anton Lupari, Josh Bill, Tommy O'Hagan, Tom O'Toole, Matthew Dalton, Matthew Agnew, Rhys O'Donnell, Stewart Moore.

    Club Side(15-9): Rodger McBurney (Ballymena RFC), Tom Caesar (Exile), Andrew Morrison (Banbridge RFC), Michael Cartmill (Malone RFC), Matthew Norris (Ballymena RFC), Chris Swash, Glen Bailey (Ballymena RFC);
    (1-8): Michael Cromie (Banbridge RFC), Peter Cromie (Banbridge RFC), Sean O'Hagan (Dungannon RFC), Ronan McCusker (Rainey RFC), Connor Smyth (Ballymena RFC), Robin Sinton (Banbridge RFC), Zac Ward (Ballynahinch RFC), Adrian Hamilton (Ballymena RFC).

    Replacements: Ross Harkin (City of Derry RFC), David Cave (Malone RFC), Darryl Morton (City of Armagh RFC), Steven Irvine (Banbridge RFC), James Gallagher (Harlequins), Richard Fahy, Jonny Little (Banbridge RFC), Michael Poskitt (Coleraine RFC)

    14 Under 20's involved.

    Good to see Rhys O'Donnell involved although he appears to be 4th choice 9.

    14 u20's:
    Tom O'Toole(TH Prop)
    Alexander Clarke(Hooker)
    John McCusker(Lock)
    Matthew Dalton(Lock)
    Aaron Hall(Backrow)
    Stuart Doddington(Backrow)
    Matthew Agnew(Backrow)
    Zac Ward(Backrow)
    Michael Stronge(Scrumhalf)
    Rhys O'Donnell(Scrumhalf)
    Richard Fahy(Scrumhalf)
    Callum Smith(Outhalf/Fullback)
    Angus Kernohan(Outside Back) - u19
    Stewart Moore(Outside Back) - u19


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    That team is correct (not 100% on Hickey). Had never seen Peter Sullivan before, he's a very impressive athlete. Looks big enough to play pro already.
    I was told Hughie and Paddy Paterson are injured and James Kenny has quit. Apparently Kelleher has moved to LFC (good move for both if true)
    Kenny hasn't quit he had to have shoulder surgery and will be involved with the sub academy this year afaik


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Leinster u20 defeated Italy u20 in Italy, score: 44-29.


  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭Stephen Hawkins football boots


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Leinster u20 defeated Italy u20 in Italy, score: 44-29.

    Any idea of the team cant see anything on Leinster website


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Any idea of the team cant see anything on Leinster website
    it's too early for something to be up on website if anything on this game is actually posted on leinsters website. Might be something later today or tomorrow


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    it's too early for something to be up on website if anything on this game is actually posted on leinsters website. Might be something later today or tomorrow

    given how shockingly bad leinster are at covering underage sides I wouldnt hold my breath waiting.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Leinster u20 play Munster u20 on Friday in Thomond at 7pm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 Stevie777


    irishfan9 wrote: »
    Leinster u20 play Munster u20 on Friday in Thomond at 7pm.

    Are you sure Munster are playing Leinster U20s on Friday? Leinster are just back from training camp in Italy. Maybe one of the other provinces?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Stevie777 wrote: »
    Are you sure Munster are playing Leinster U20s on Friday? Leinster are just back from training camp in Italy. Maybe one of the other provinces?

    That's what the munster website says.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭Tarf1234


    Was told by one of the (leinster) players on Monday he said they're done.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,585 ✭✭✭irishfan9


    Tarf1234 wrote: »
    Was told by one of the (leinster) players on Monday he said they're done.

    just passing along what the munster website says.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭Tarf1234


    Slight change in the qualifier format for Leinster this year. 4 pools of 4 as before.

    Seed 1 play 2 first game and 3 play 4. Loser of 3 v 4 doesn't play 1 or 2. Should hopefully avoid too many hidings. Games 24/09, 01/10 & 08/10 (unless it is Tarf v OB which would be 06/10)
    Groups are below.
      1 2 3 4
    1 Lansdowne Trinity UCD Navan
    2 Marys Rock Tarf Nure
    3 Barnhall Buccs OB G'stones
    4 NUIG OW Naas Sutton


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