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General Rugby Discussion II

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  • #1682
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Squatter wrote: »
    It's ironic really!

    The IRFU protects its home-based players by strictly controlling their game time - whereas the financially strapped WRU abuses its home-based players by arranging matches outside the international window in which they are obliged to play if selected!

    Ummm, don't IRFU do this too?


  • #1683
    connemara man
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 6,773 Mod ✭✭✭✭connemara man


    Squatter wrote: »
    It's ironic really!

    The IRFU protects its home-based players by strictly controlling their game time - whereas the financially strapped WRU abuses its home-based players by arranging matches outside the international window in which they are obliged to play if selected!

    This isn't an extra match though. It's a third match a week outside the alloted window.


  • #1684
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    connemara man wrote: »
    This isn't an extra match though. It's a third match a week outside the alloted window.

    It's not outside the window. The window allows for 3 games in June, which is exactly what the WRU are doing.

    It's just the window is specific in how many days before the match the players can be kept by the clubs, and that doesn't necessarily suit the WRU's trans-atlantic match preparations. I believe the WRU had thought they would be released and had been told so by officials at a club involved but PRL decided against it and it's a league-wide decision.


  • #1685
    connemara man
    Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 6,773 Mod ✭✭✭✭connemara man


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    It's not outside the window. The window allows for 3 games in June, which is exactly what the WRU are doing.

    It's just the window is specific in how many days before the match the players can be kept by the clubs, and that doesn't necessarily suit the WRU's trans-atlantic match preparations. I believe the WRU had thought they would be released and had been told so by officials at a club involved but PRL decided against it and it's a league-wide decision.

    I was more trying to correct the Wales out for money 4th test bit. But it's crappy for the players involved.


  • #1686
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,098 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    It's not outside the window. The window allows for 3 games in June, which is exactly what the WRU are doing.

    It's just the window is specific in how many days before the match the players can be kept by the clubs, and that doesn't necessarily suit the WRU's trans-atlantic match preparations. I believe the WRU had thought they would be released and had been told so by officials at a club involved but PRL decided against it and it's a league-wide decision.

    Window is 9 16 23 june. Wales v S.A. is June 2nd. So it is outside the window


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  • #1687
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,207 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    It's not outside the window. The window allows for 3 games in June, which is exactly what the WRU are doing.

    It's just the window is specific in how many days before the match the players can be kept by the clubs, and that doesn't necessarily suit the WRU's trans-atlantic match preparations. I believe the WRU had thought they would be released and had been told so by officials at a club involved but PRL decided against it and it's a league-wide decision.

    It is outside the window.
    World Rugby wrote:
    Unless Council approves otherwise the three weekends in June shall be the second, third and fourth weekends.


  • #1688
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Ah yes, I am wrong on that.


  • #1689
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,098 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Ah yes, I am wrong on that.

    Players only have to be made available from June 3rd i think


  • #1690
    Squatter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    Former Former wrote: »
    Ummm, don't IRFU do this too?

    Go on ............................?


  • #1691
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,332 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Squatter wrote: »
    Go on ............................?
    I think the Italy match in Chicago is outside the window. I think there'll be Pro14 matches the same weekend.


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  • #1692
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    So was the All Blacks game in Chicago wasn’t it?


  • #1693
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,332 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    stephen_n wrote: »
    So was the All Blacks game in Chicago wasn’t it?
    Yea I'm pretty sure the window is only for three weekends.


    The only reason this hasn't come up for the IRFU is that we don't currently select anyone outside of Ireland.


  • #1694
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    awec wrote: »
    Yea I'm pretty sure the window is only for three weekends.


    The only reason this hasn't come up for the IRFU is that we don't currently select anyone outside of Ireland.

    Well that and the fact this only the second time we have played outside the window, for Wales it's been a regular occurrence for the last number of years.


  • #1695
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Interesting to see that in court today, Paddy Jackson's lawyer claimed he is both without employment and without offer of employment.

    Maybe Sale did rescind the offer after all.


  • #1696
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,621 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Beno Obano sustained a knee ligament injury during training with England and has been sent home.

    It could be coincidental but a lot of players seem to get injured on England duty. We already know Jones flogs the players too. Wonder what kind of training they're actually doing


  • #1697
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Biarritz relegated to Federale 1. Very sad demise of a great club.


  • #1698
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    PJ really screwed himself. Hope they both find a club soon.


  • #1699
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Clegg wrote: »
    Beno Obano sustained a knee ligament injury during training with England and has been sent home.

    It could be coincidental but a lot of players seem to get injured on England duty. We already know Jones flogs the players too. Wonder what kind of training they're actually doing

    Probably do the same sort of high intensity training Lancaster does with Leinster, trying to recreate as close to match conditions as possible.


  • #1700
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,207 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Biarritz relegated to Federale 1. Very sad demise of a great club.

    Jesus. Any chance of them sorting themselves out and coming back up?


  • #1701
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Jesus. Any chance of them sorting themselves out and coming back up?

    They have seven days to appeal.

    Montauban recovered. They're now a solid ProD2 club.


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  • #1702
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,146 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    They have seven days to appeal.

    So they were relegated due to a reason other than league placement?


  • #1703
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,207 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    They have seven days to appeal.

    Montauban recovered. They're now a solid ProD2 club.

    Ah I thought it was just a normal relegation. Obviously teams can rebuild in ProD2 but Federale 1 is a pretty low ebb to fall to and recover from. Have any teams come from there to Top14 recently?


  • #1704
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Hurrache wrote: »
    So they were relegated due to a reason other than league placement?

    Financial reasons. €1m hole in their budget for next season I believe.


  • #1705
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Maybe they should focus on 7s instead.

    Biarritzbokke.


  • #1706
    Former Former
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    stephen_n wrote: »
    Probably do the same sort of high intensity training Lancaster does with Leinster, trying to recreate as close to match conditions as possible.


    It was reported in the Sunday Times that England were going to be training in elevated heat and humidity before they travel out to SA, not that SA is particularly humid but in preparation for Japan next year.

    A good idea that is utter lunacy at the end of a season.


  • #1707
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Former Former wrote: »
    It was reported in the Sunday Times that England were going to be training in elevated heat and humidity before they travel out to SA, not that SA is particularly humid but in preparation for Japan next year.

    A good idea that is utter lunacy at the end of a season.

    Doesn’t really make much sense this far out from the RWC, any benefits will be long gone by next year. The high veld is hardly that humid and apart from getting used to how far the ball travels, they won’t be acclimatized for the tour anyway, so yep that’s utter madness. Really seems like the wheels are coming off Eddies chariot.


  • #1708
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,060 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Ah I thought it was just a normal relegation. Obviously teams can rebuild in ProD2 but Federale 1 is a pretty low ebb to fall to and recover from. Have any teams come from there to Top14 recently?

    Not really. Oyonnax about 15 years ago I think. Biarritz should have been relegated years ago but kept getting last minute reprieves, usually at the expense of better-run clubs. It's **** for their fans but the club is a basket case.


  • #1709
    Bridge93
    Registered Users Posts: 7,018 ✭✭✭Bridge93


    Saracens hammering Wasps


  • #1710
    ScrubsfanChris
    Registered Users Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Bridge93 wrote: »
    Saracens hammering Wasps
    Only 10 points in it now. 18 minutes to go.


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  • #1711
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,098 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    James Haskell skipped this game to attend some wedding


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