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    #152
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Kolido wrote:
    Never a big fan of point deduction but it could be interesting in this tournament. So if I hit the assassin with 2 words remaining, I get 0 points?

    Currently yes.


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    #153
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    For the League - i think you should follow SKs plan to have teams generate a board together, rather than relying on the organiser to create it. It can be shared if needed, but SKs idea of generating 2 random words and captains PMing them to create a board means teams can organise matches as they want to (just in case the organiser is sick or busy in work or whatever).

    Also, the editing rule - i think this should be left to captains. If captains agree to edit something, they should be able to do so without the organiser being contacted.

    Just my 2c.


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    #154
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Pter wrote: »
    (just in case the organiser is sick or busy in work or whatever).

    Also, the editing rule - i think this should be left to captains. If captains agree to edit something, they should be able to do so without the organiser being contacted.

    Me, busy? Lol:pac::pac::pac:

    Yeah it saves me a lot of effort that's for sure. If people are happy with that then I can change that rule if ye like.

    I have included a clause which allows the captains to resolves most issues but a glaring one I probably need to see and make a call on so hence the no edit.

    Also will be editing the no discussion rule. The guesser can talk all they want, try and work things out but the captain may not respond in any fashion other than the regular responses.


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    #155
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Necrominus wrote: »
    Me, busy? Lol:pac::pac::pac:

    Yeah it saves me a lot of effort that's for sure. If people are happy with that then I can change that rule if ye like.

    I have included a clause which allows the captains to resolves most issues but a glaring one I probably need to see and make a call on so hence the no edit.

    Also will be editing the no discussion rule. The guesser can talk all they want, try and work things out but the captain may not respond in any fashion other than the regular responses.

    Having a no edit rule may result in more games being abandoned and restarted, i reckon. If a mistake (spelling, outside the rules, inappropriate chat) is made and not changed quickly, you could be 75% through a game and have to restart due to the mistake.

    I understand why its needed too, i just think that might be a side effect. Also if you are going to include that rule, whats the punishment for breaking it?


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    #156
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Pter wrote: »
    Having a no edit rule may result in more games being abandoned and restarted, i reckon. If a mistake (spelling, outside the rules, inappropriate chat) is made and not changed quickly, you could be 75% through a game and have to restart due to the mistake.

    I understand why its needed too, i just think that might be a side effect. Also if you are going to include that rule, whats the punishment for breaking it?

    I get to punish people now? Excellent....:D:D

    Seriously though, the minor errors (spelling for example) are for the captains to resolve. I can edit(lol) the rule to reflect that. Serious incursions of game rules obviously result in the award of the game to the other team, but maybe I'm being naive here, I don't expect this to happen at all.


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    #157
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Necrominus wrote: »
    I get to punish people now? Excellent....:D:D

    Seriously though, the minor errors (spelling for example) are for the captains to resolve. I can edit(lol) the rule to reflect that. Serious incursions of game rules obviously result in the award of the game to the other team, but maybe I'm being naive here, I don't expect this to happen at all.

    I think we should maybe take a leaf out of WW rules if we are gonna have this rule for Codenames. Dont edit, but if you need to do a minor change (spelling), do in consultation with the other captain. If the other captain has an issue with the edit made or it was made without consultation, it gets referred to league and forum mods (because with due respect Necro you wont be able to see the text that was edited).

    I agree; doubt it will be an issue, but if you have a rule there, best to make sure its gonna work!


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    #158
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Pter wrote: »
    I think we should maybe take a leaf out of WW rules if we are gonna have this rule for Codenames. Dont edit, but if you need to do a minor change (spelling), do in consultation with the other captain. If the other captain has an issue with the edit made or it was made without consultation, it gets referred to league and forum mods (because with due respect Necro you wont be able to see the text that was edited).

    I agree; doubt it will be an issue, but if you have a rule there, best to make sure its gonna work!

    Yeah that is kinda the exact reason for the no edit rule because I wouldn't be able to see the original text.


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    #159
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Just my opinion, so maybe others have thoughts on this?


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    #160
    Banjo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    I think the golden rule should be if the 2 captains agree it and it doesn't violate the charter, it's fine.

    In the event of an inter-captain dispute, pause the game, delete the offending post after both sides copy it for posterity (or inform a mod) and then get the organiser to adjudicate. Outside of me doing this 3 times a game it will probably never come up.

    Corollary : Unless there's a charter violation, Mod would need to check with both captains before modding, or captains would need to feed back all cap-rulings to the mod team. Whichever is least trouble.

    Limit captains to <Clue word>, number, Play, Or, Pass, Img tags.

    Ensure there's at least 3 people on a team, so you get more discussion going around clues, spectators can shout at the two idiots who are about to guess the assassin and the games don't become too stilted as a result of the "shut the **** up, captain!" rule above. I think a smaller league with teams that get to bounce stuff back and forth would be more entertaining to watch than a larger league where people can only really chat after the game is finished.


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    #161
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Banjo wrote: »
    I think the golden rule should be if the 2 captains agree it and it doesn't violate the charter, it's fine.

    In the event of an inter-captain dispute, pause the game, delete the offending post after both sides copy it for posterity (or inform a mod) and then get the organiser to adjudicate. Outside of me doing this 3 times a game it will probably never come up.

    Corollary : Unless there's a charter violation, Mod would need to check with both captains before modding, or captains would need to feed back all cap-rulings to the mod team. Whichever is least trouble.

    Limit captains to <Clue word>, number, Play, Or, Pass, Img tags.

    Ensure there's at least 3 people on a team, so you get more discussion going around clues, spectators can shout at the two idiots who are about to guess the assassin and the games don't become too stilted as a result of the "shut the **** up, captain!" rule above. I think a smaller league with teams that get to bounce stuff back and forth would be more entertaining to watch than a larger league where people can only really chat after the game is finished.

    Bang on, imo.

    1 Q: Why would the capt need image tags?


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    #162
    conor222
    Registered Users Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭conor222


    to post game boards?


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    #163
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    conor222 wrote: »
    to post game boards?

    Ah yeah gotcha - proviso that thats all they are used for, of course!


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    #164
    Banjo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    As organiser, Necro would not be playing so I think we can rest easy that the IMG tags won't be abused :P

    If there's going to be a bunch of 2 man teams, an alternative would be to have some kind of dead-room-esque system where captains can scream at their team-mate and explain their clues, but only the other captains can hear them :D


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    #165
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Anyone for a game today outside of World Cup/league stuff?


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    #166
    Guffy
    Registered Users Posts: 8,033 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Necrominus wrote: »
    Anyone for a game today outside of World Cup/league stuff?

    Ya


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    #167
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    Guffy wrote: »
    Ya

    Go on sure


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    #168
    sKeith
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    me, me , me , me


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    #169
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Be home in ten mins just collecting little ones. If someone wants to set up the board I'll captain the other team for the practice.


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    #170
    Banjo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    Aye! I've got the bug


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    #171
    sKeith
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    so, cap : necro and ?? . volunteer?


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    #172
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=106424242#post106424242

    New game thread :)


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    #173
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Many about for a friendly? League won't start till next Monday so plenty of time for pre season fixtures :)


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    #174
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Necrominus wrote:
    Many about for a friendly? League won't start till next Monday so plenty of time for pre season fixtures


    I'll do a guesser in a game


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    #175
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Pter wrote: »
    I'll do a guesser in a game

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    #176
    Kolido
    Registered Users Posts: 13,358 ✭✭✭✭Kolido


    Yeah I can play, can cpt


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    #177
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Kolido wrote: »
    Yeah I can play, can cpt

    I want another rattle at captaining, so that's cool by me. I'm busy for about ten mins, wanna set up the board?


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    #178
    Kolido
    Registered Users Posts: 13,358 ✭✭✭✭Kolido


    New game.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=106433811#post106433811


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    #179
    Banjo
    Registered Users Posts: 10,485 ✭✭✭✭Banjo


    If you need a spare team-mate let me know. Or share the board and I'll commentate. I see myself as combining Des Lynam's encyclopedic knowledge of the game with Jimmy McGee's suave charm.


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    #180
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Banjo wrote: »
    If you need a spare team-mate let me know. Or share the board and I'll commentate. I see myself as combining Des Lynam's encyclopedic knowledge of the game with Jimmy McGee's suave charm.

    Join away, you'll be on team Kommunist Banjo


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    #181
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Many around for a game?

    I'd like to guess this time please :(


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