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  • #32
    sullivlo
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭sullivlo


    sKeith wrote: »
    Is a two month ban from playing ww an apropiate punishment?

    And what about sanctions for those who knew the rules were being broken?


  • #33
    sKeith
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    sullivlo wrote: »
    And what about sanctions for those who knew the rules were being broken?

    Send them to the dungeons and throw away the key.


  • #34
    sullivlo
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭sullivlo


    sKeith wrote: »
    Send them to the dungeons and throw away the key.

    Seriously :rolleyes:


  • #35
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    sullivlo wrote: »
    And what about sanctions for those who knew the rules were being broken?

    That’s not fair lifetime ban me don’t take itviutvonnanyone else


  • #36
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    sKeith wrote: »
    Send them to the dungeons and throw away the key.

    So who told you Tigger had permission to play on an Anon account?


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  • #37
    Triceratops Ballet
    Registered Users Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Triceratops Ballet


    Tigger wrote: »
    I deleted the posts for the good of the integrity of the game and pm d necro to tell him
    I am not the only person to have edited during the game tho am I ?

    The re reg thing, well I wouldn’t advise anyone else do it I didn’t think it’s matter I underestimated the vitriol, you live youblearn

    I have no intention of playing ww here again I said so to necro before Xmas that I’d like to playbhis game as my last and I didn’t feel that I could do so from my normal account

    Any ways just ban me from WW and be done with it.

    If you had any interest in the integrity of the game you'd have been upfront about who you were so quit it with the integrity bull

    You didn't feel you could play with your own account, boo f**king hoo, whose fault is that

    we voted on the style of play we wanted, non anon, that wasn't good enough for you so you were selfish (as per usual) and paid no regard to what the rest of the group think or want.


  • #38
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    sKeith wrote: »
    Is a two month ban from playing ww an apropiate punishment?

    Another one :(


  • #39
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    MicksJaguar wrote: »
    So who told you Tigger had permission to play on an Anon account?

    Don’t do that


  • #40
    tritium
    Registered Users Posts: 7,406 ✭✭✭tritium


    Tigger wrote: »
    I’ve been first or second munched more times than anyone else last 4 non anon games iirc

    Great, how many times has vale been strung up because everyone thought he was a wolf again?Cross given special attention because we know he can be especially sneaky? If you’re getting killed early then maybe it would be better to ask if modifying your style is the answer. Most players on here have a range of styles that they practice, it even helps them get better.


  • #41
    Tigger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    tritium wrote: »
    Great, how many times has vale been strung up because everyone thought he was a wolf again?Cross given special attention because we know he can be especially sneaky? If you’re getting killed early then maybe it would be better to ask if modifying your style is the answer. Most players on here have a range of styles that they practice, it even helps them get better.

    Ok point taken


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  • #42
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Another wolf game over, another "what do we do about game breakers" thread created. It's deja vu all over again!! When does it end?


  • #43
    sullivlo
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭sullivlo


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Another wolf game over, another "what do we do about game breakers" thread created. It's deja vu all over again!! When does it end?

    This was particularly “breaky” because there were more than one poster involved.


  • #44
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    If you are looking for suggestions sully ban the repeat offender, warn the first timer.


  • #45
    Triceratops Ballet
    Registered Users Posts: 4,894 ✭✭✭Triceratops Ballet


    sullivlo wrote: »
    This was particularly “breaky” because there were more than one poster involved.

    do you have anything in mind to deal with it Sully?


  • #46
    sKeith
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    For the record,


    This was a joke!
    sKeith wrote: »
    Sure thing,
    ZeBigBoyha 84.25.78.6 &
    DonAtellOh15 84.25.78.6


    i read in the beast mansion that BH though my friends actually joined up, this was fictional, never happened. playing on the sign ups are closed... and are they really and would they let more in....

    also for the record, there was no first tinkerbell who's posts mysteriouly dissapperaed. sKeith was talking to a fictionaly fairy who did not have the power to post. ( i like to call it my imagination, other would say i have a screw loose, either way, i like my quirks, u don't have too)


  • #47
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Folks look I don't want to get drawn on this but I'm going to take some time off to reflect.

    I think I'm too addicted to this game. It was a 'get as many players' as possible so my mechanics would work.

    I apologise to everyone and I'll bow out of the next few games.


  • #48
    Drumpot
    Registered Users Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Banjo wrote: »
    This was my first non-anon game. Every other player had a meta advantage over me. (Ironically with one exception).

    Anyway, I'll leave it to the more experienced to discuss.

    Stick around. I’ve had a meltdown in games and threatened to quit games (albeit in back forums). To be honest I think I’ve been really embarrassed at some of my behavior at times.

    It’s not cool but I think what’s most important is that I think I have learned. I helped out (a tiny bit) in one game and the work that mods put into these things is ridiculous, like I mean a lot of work. I expect to make mistakes if I play again but I hope I would be quick to hold my hand up and help fix it.

    This has come up before and I don’t think people here want players thinking that mistakes or modkill incidents (like missing votes!) would drive people away.

    I have taken breaks from the game but getting Necros message about the game is a nice reminder of what is mostly an accepting , fun community here.

    By the way Mick , just to let you know , Stu is doing just fine:

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  • #49
    sullivlo
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭sullivlo


    Pter wrote: »
    If you are looking for suggestions sully ban the repeat offender, warn the first timer.

    And what about the allegations of the game mods knowing that there was a re-reg non-anon participating in the game?


  • #50
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    sullivlo wrote: »
    And what about the allegations of the game mods knowing that there was a re-reg non-anon participating in the game?

    Probably need to ask what the full story is there first


  • #51
    sKeith
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    also. please never put the NO META rule into non anon games in future. this thread just proves that the two don't meld.


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  • #52
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    I've been debating posting this the last 30 minutes. I'm not even sure if it's relevant to the topic at hand. If not, we can ignore and discuss elsewhere if necessary, but ....

    I know there's the "don't be a sensitive soul" clause. But some comments in this, and previous games felt beyond the pale to me. I'm wondering the mechanics of solving that, without making Sully's job even more difficult. There's banter, there's friendly jibes. But, without going in to specifics (different versions of this post over the 30 minutes have gone in to the specifics and removed them as I debate with myself), some been more than that, and, frankly, spoils what is otherwise an enjoyable game.

    Am I alone in thinking this? If I am, then maybe WW just isn't the game for me. If not, then what to do?


  • #53
    quickbeam
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Necrominus wrote: »
    Folks look I don't want to get drawn on this but I'm going to take some time off to reflect.

    I think I'm too addicted to this game. It was a 'get as many players' as possible so my mechanics would work.

    I apologise to everyone and I'll bow out of the next few games.

    Please don't! :eek:


  • #54
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    sullivlo wrote:
    And what about the allegations of the game mods knowing that there was a re-reg non-anon participating in the game?

    I don't know tbh but we have had two people say things they did themselves, so why wouldn't we actually act on those or are those punishments dependent on the mods as well.


  • #55
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    sKeith wrote: »
    also. please never put the NO META rule into non anon games in future. this thread just proves that the two don't meld.

    Ya that's the real problem here :rolleyes:


  • #56
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭[Deleted User]


    quickbeam wrote: »
    I've been debating posting this the last 30 minutes. I'm not even sure if it's relevant to the topic at hand. If not, we can ignore and discuss elsewhere if necessary, but ....

    I know there's the "don't be a sensitive soul" clause. But some comments in this, and previous games felt beyond the pale to me. I'm wondering the mechanics of solving that, without making Sully's job even more difficult. There's banter, there's friendly jibes. But, without going in to specifics (different versions of this post over the 30 minutes have gone in to the specifics and removed them as I debate with myself), some been more than that, and, frankly, spoils what is otherwise an enjoyable game.

    Am I alone in thinking this? If I am, then maybe WW just isn't the game for me. If not, then what to do?

    If this is a player specific thing again or a general thing


  • #57
    Baggly
    Registered Users Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Pter wrote:
    I don't know tbh but we have had two people say things they did themselves, so why wouldn't we actually act on those or are those punishments dependent on the mods as well.


    To add, I've already said I don't want to punish first timers. It's the repeat flounting of the spirit and rules that's the issue for me.

    If the mods made a mistake or error in judgement, or if they didn't at all, it certainly isn't a repeat one that I can see. And as others have said, making a mistake and learning is fine. Repeat breakages is not imo. That's what I want punished. Not anything isolated to this game.


  • #58
    sullivlo
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭sullivlo


    quickbeam wrote: »
    I've been debating posting this the last 30 minutes. I'm not even sure if it's relevant to the topic at hand. If not, we can ignore and discuss elsewhere if necessary, but ....

    I know there's the "don't be a sensitive soul" clause. But some comments in this, and previous games felt beyond the pale to me. I'm wondering the mechanics of solving that, without making Sully's job even more difficult. There's banter, there's friendly jibes. But, without going in to specifics (different versions of this post over the 30 minutes have gone in to the specifics and removed them as I debate with myself), some been more than that, and, frankly, spoils what is otherwise an enjoyable game.

    Am I alone in thinking this? If I am, then maybe WW just isn't the game for me. If not, then what to do?

    I don’t know whether this is a chicken/egg situation. Would there have been outbursts here if the rules had been abided by all? Or did they only occur because the game was in jeopardy. IIRC we haven’t had the issue when playing anon games, so it might be a case of people being on high alert when they know one/more posters are playing.

    Just a thought.


  • #59
    sKeith
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,404 ✭✭✭✭sKeith


    MicksJaguar wrote: »
    Ya that's the real problem here :rolleyes:


    seems like it to me.

    if nobody was using meta, then what does a re-reg account matter.

    it only matters because EVERYBODY ELSE WAS USING META.


  • #60
    duffman13
    Registered Users Posts: 8,945 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Necrominus wrote: »
    Folks look I don't want to get drawn on this but I'm going to take some time off to reflect.

    I think I'm too addicted to this game. It was a 'get as many players' as possible so my mechanics would work.

    I apologise to everyone and I'll bow out of the next few games.

    I really don't think that's neccesary or fair, i dont think anyone should get away with rule breaking be it boards or game rules. I do think what happened was bit crazy and i think most people twigged early doors what had happened however your intentions were good.

    I think respect needs to be shown to boards rules and werewolf rules. Don't be a dick should be the number one rule in everyones mind, slight breaches happen, hell I made a stupid one in my first game and thought it was allowed. This forum and game is daunting for new players, a strike system should be in place for newer player. When you've played 4 or 5 games then you know what is and isnt allowed, so your intentionally breaching the rules your not respecting the game or the mods.

    A balance between attracting new players and clearly laying down ground rules needs to happen. Sometimes the push is on to try get the max number of participants and that isn't always the best solution for the game.

    People who break rules should be banned from the next game as a first offence. It's the only way you have an impact. Bans raise to two then three games till the point gets across or it doesnt. The only exception to this rule should be new player within their first couple of games. Most games at one stage are another mods are thinking on their feet trying to balance/rebalance or put out some fire.

    A huge amount of work went into the last gsme as most people could see. Although I understand boards terms of service etc, i feel it would be unjust to punish anyone who has put the time into building this week's game.

    *I may not be fully aware of everything that's happened as I missed a fair whack. I'm speaking specifically about the rereg scenario and the meta gaming from Banjo. I know something else happened last night however I dont know what that consisted of.


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  • #61
    sullivlo
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭sullivlo


    Pter wrote: »
    I don't know tbh but we have had two people say things they did themselves, so why wouldn't we actually act on those or are those punishments dependent on the mods as well.

    Yep, fully agree, and I will act accordingly from a boards mod POV when I get to my mod area.

    But if we’re having a discussion about the game mechanics and rules, if you’re advertising a game as non-anon, play it that way. Had we been told in advance of the issue, or had a mod confirm it on thread, it wouldn’t have been the cluster**** that it was.


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