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6N Tournament 2018 (non-Irish TT)

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  • #32
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    I think it was some kind of forfeit

    Good stuff, he caught a lot of bites on it.
    John Hardie in particular it would seem.


  • #33
    Squidgy Black
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    French Squad:

    BASTAREAUD Mathieu (RC Toulon)
    BELLEAU Anthony (RC Toulon)
    BEN AROUS Eddy (Racing 92)
    CAMARA Yacouba (Montpellier HR)
    CHAT Camille (Racing 92)
    CHAVANCY Henry (Racing 92)
    DOUMAYROU Geoffrey (Stade Rochelais)
    DULIN Brice (Racing 92)
    DUPONT Antoine (Stade Toulousain)
    FALL Benjamin (Montpellier HR)
    GABRILLAGUES Paul (Stade Français Paris)
    GOMES SA Cedate (Racing 92)
    GOURDON Kevin (Stade Rochelais)
    GUIRADO Guihem (RC Toulon)
    ITURRIA Arthur (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    JALIBERT Matthieu (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)
    JELONCH Anthony (Castres Olympique)
    LAMBEY Félix (Lyon OU)
    LAMERAT Rémi (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    LAURET Wenceslas (Racing 92)
    MACALOU Sekou (Stade Français Paris)
    MACHENAUD Maxime (Racing 92)
    PALIS Geoffrey (Castres Olympique)
    PARRA Morgan (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    POIROT Jefferson (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)
    PRISO Dany (Stade Rochelais)
    SLIMANI Rabah (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    TAULEIGNE Marco (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)
    THOMAS Teddy (Racing 92)
    TOLOFUA Christopher (Saracens RFC)
    VAHAAMAHINA Sébastien (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    VAKATAWA Virimi (Racing 92)


  • #34
    sydthebeat
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    no trinh-duc


  • #35
    errlloyd
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    no trinh-duc

    Or Tales

    Of the two outhalves, one has 2 caps and the other 0.

    Doesn't seem to be an out and out number 8 either.


  • #36
    stephen_n
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Age and experience? Leavy is 23 and JVdF is 24. In 2013, Leavy was 19 and JVdF was 20. In 2017 Leavy had less than half an hour of international rugby and Josh Van der Flier had seven caps to his name. Also both are currently behind SOB and POM in an Ireland context and both of those players went on the Lions tour in 2017.

    Facts, facts and damn context hey!


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  • #37
    sydthebeat
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    errlloyd wrote: »
    Or Tales

    Of the two outhalves, one has 2 caps and the other 0.

    Doesn't seem to be an out and out number 8 either.

    average age of half backs (without parra) is 20 :)


  • #38
    errlloyd
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    sydthebeat wrote: »
    average age of half backs (without parra) is 20 :)

    Machenaud is 29 though, he's only a month younger than Parra.


  • #39
    razorblunt
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    Bastareud won't even be issued training gear.
    His order has already been discarded!

    Fickou has been told not to plan any weekends off I'd say.


    (Yes, I just grabbed Fickou's name out of nowhere).


  • #40
    MDunne14
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Age and experience? Leavy is 23 and JVdF is 24. In 2013, Leavy was 19 and JVdF was 20. In 2017 Leavy had less than half an hour of international rugby and Josh Van der Flier had seven caps to his name. Also both are currently behind SOB and POM in an Ireland context and both of those players went on the Lions tour in 2017.

    Tipuric is a far better 7 than either of leavy or jvdf and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to get their heads out and start watching other games than Leinster ones


  • #41
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,175 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    That French squad does not strike fear into me at all. The fact it is relatively experimental yet only 5 players are from La Rochelle and Montpellier combined underlines the lack of available quality at the top end of the T14.


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  • #42
    sydthebeat
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    errlloyd wrote: »
    Machenaud is 29 though, he's only a month younger than Parra.

    ah i hadnt copped him, though it was just dupont and parra !!

    so a parra / belleau paring then to start...

    interesting to see how they fill the 21 / 22 shirts


  • #43
    Bazzo
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    Just noticed Serin didn't make the cut either... He's impressed me any time I've seen him.


  • #44
    Squidgy Black
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    Bazzo wrote: »
    Just noticed Serin didn't make the cut either... He's impressed me any time I've seen him.

    Machenaud and Parra were always going to be selected ahead of Serin, and Dupont seems to be the favourite at the moment, played against Italy in last years 6n and started two of their AIs.


  • #45
    [Deleted User]
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    French Squad:

    BASTAREAUD Mathieu (RC Toulon)
    BELLEAU Anthony (RC Toulon)
    BEN AROUS Eddy (Racing 92)
    CAMARA Yacouba (Montpellier HR)
    CHAT Camille (Racing 92)
    CHAVANCY Henry (Racing 92)
    DOUMAYROU Geoffrey (Stade Rochelais)
    DULIN Brice (Racing 92)
    DUPONT Antoine (Stade Toulousain)
    FALL Benjamin (Montpellier HR)
    GABRILLAGUES Paul (Stade Français Paris)
    GOMES SA Cedate (Racing 92)
    GOURDON Kevin (Stade Rochelais)
    GUIRADO Guihem (RC Toulon)
    ITURRIA Arthur (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    JALIBERT Matthieu (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)
    JELONCH Anthony (Castres Olympique)
    LAMBEY Félix (Lyon OU)
    LAMERAT Rémi (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    LAURET Wenceslas (Racing 92)
    MACALOU Sekou (Stade Français Paris)
    MACHENAUD Maxime (Racing 92)
    PALIS Geoffrey (Castres Olympique)
    PARRA Morgan (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    POIROT Jefferson (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)
    PRISO Dany (Stade Rochelais)
    SLIMANI Rabah (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    TAULEIGNE Marco (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)
    THOMAS Teddy (Racing 92)
    TOLOFUA Christopher (Saracens RFC)
    VAHAAMAHINA Sébastien (ASM Clermont Auvergne)
    VAKATAWA Virimi (Racing 92)

    Who are the two outhalves?!

    JALIBERT Matthieu is the uncapped


  • #46
    Clegg
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    A lot of France's most experienced players have let the side down in recent years so changing up the squad makes sense. Having said that, leaving Picamoles out entirely is utter lunacy. Still a monster ball carrier. Unless he's injured of course and if that's the case never mind.


  • #47
    The Pheasant2
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    Anybody slightly more au fait with the Top14 wanna hazard a go at a France 23?


  • #48
    Squidgy Black
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    BASTAREAUD Mathieu (RC Toulon) - Centre 42 caps
    BELLEAU Anthony (RC Toulon) - Fly half 2 caps
    BEN AROUS Eddy (Racing 92) - Prop 18 caps
    CAMARA Yacouba (Montpellier HR) - Back Row 6 caps
    CHAT Camille (Racing 92) - Hooker 10 caps
    CHAVANCY Henry (Racing 92) - Centre 3 caps
    DOUMAYROU Geoffrey (Stade Rochelais) - Centre 3 caps
    DULIN Brice (Racing 92) - Back Three 29 caps
    DUPONT Antoine (Stade Toulousain) - Scrumhalf 6 caps
    FALL Benjamin (Montpellier HR) - Back Three 6 caps
    GABRILLAGUES Paul (Stade Français Paris) - 2nd Row 1 cap
    GOMES SA Cedate (Racing 92) - Prop 0 cap
    GOURDON Kevin (Stade Rochelais) - Backrow 15 caps
    GUIRADO Guihem (RC Toulon) - Hooker 56 caps
    ITURRIA Arthur (ASM Clermont Auvergne) - 2nd Row 1 cap
    JALIBERT Matthieu (Union Bordeaux-Bègles) - Fly half 0 caps
    JELONCH Anthony (Castres Olympique) - Backrow 2 caps
    LAMBEY Félix (Lyon OU) - 2nd row 0 caps
    LAMERAT Rémi (ASM Clermont Auvergne) - Centre 16 caps
    LAURET Wenceslas (Racing 92) - Backrow 12 caps
    MACALOU Sekou (Stade Français Paris) - Backrow 1 cap
    MACHENAUD Maxime (Racing 92) - Scrumhalf 31 caps
    PALIS Geoffrey (Castres Olympique) - Back three 0 caps
    PARRA Morgan (ASM Clermont Auvergne) - Scrum Half 66 caps
    POIROT Jefferson (Union Bordeaux-Bègles) - Prop 14 caps
    PRISO Dany (Stade Rochelais) - Prop 0 caps
    SLIMANI Rabah (ASM Clermont Auvergne) - Prop 41 caps
    TAULEIGNE Marco (Union Bordeaux-Bègles) - Backrow 0 caps
    THOMAS Teddy (Racing 92) - Back three 8 caps
    TOLOFUA Christopher (Saracens RFC) - Hooker 7 caps
    VAHAAMAHINA Sébastien (ASM Clermont Auvergne) - 2nd row 28 caps
    VAKATAWA Virimi (Racing 92) - Back three/ centre - 15 caps


  • #49
    sydthebeat
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Who are the two outhalves?!

    JALIBERT Matthieu is the uncapped


    BELLEAU Anthony (RC Toulon)


  • #50
    stephen_n
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    I’m amazed Para only has 66 caps, feels like he’s be around forever.


  • #51
    Squidgy Black
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    Clegg wrote: »
    A lot of France's most experienced players have let the side down in recent years so changing up the squad makes sense. Having said that, leaving Picamoles out entirely is utter lunacy. Still a monster ball carrier. Unless he's injured of course and if that's the case never mind.

    A lot of French aren't surprised at Picamoles exclusion, he's been fairly quiet in the Top14 this year, and Tauleigne played under Brunel for Bordeaux.


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  • #52
    Bazzo
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    stephen_n wrote: »
    I’m amazed Para only has 66 caps, feels like he’s be around forever.

    Probably something to do with the French putting out a different combination of half backs in every match since time immemorial.


  • #53
    prawnsambo
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    Here's the breakdown by position:

    Prop
    BEN AROUS Eddy (Racing 92)(19)
    GOMES SA Cedate (Racing 92)(0)
    POIROT Jefferson (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)(14)
    PRISO Dany (Stade Rochelais)(0)
    SLIMANI Rabah (ASM Clermont Auvergne)(41)

    Hooker
    CHAT Camille (Racing 92)(10)
    GUIRADO Guihem (RC Toulon)(56)
    TOLOFUA Christopher (Saracens RFC)(7)

    Lock
    GABRILLAGUES Paul (Stade Français Paris)(2)
    ITURRIA Arthur (ASM Clermont Auvergne)(1)
    LAMBEY Félix (Lyon OU)(0)
    VAHAAMAHINA Sébastien (ASM Clermont Auvergne)(28)

    Flanker
    CAMARA Yacouba (Montpellier HR)(6)
    GOURDON Kevin (Stade Rochelais)(15)
    JELONCH Anthony (Castres Olympique)(2)
    LAURET Wenceslas (Racing 92)(12)
    MACALOU Sekou (Stade Français Paris)(1)

    Number 8
    TAULEIGNE Marco (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)(0)

    Scrum half
    DUPONT Antoine (Stade Toulousain)(6)
    MACHENAUD Maxime (Racing 92)(31)
    PARRA Morgan (ASM Clermont Auvergne)(66)

    Out Half
    BELLEAU Anthony (RC Toulon)(2)
    JALIBERT Matthieu (Union Bordeaux-Bègles)(0)

    Centre
    BASTAREAUD Mathieu (RC Toulon)(42)
    CHAVANCY Henry (Racing 92)(3)
    DOUMAYROU Geoffrey (Stade Rochelais)(2)
    LAMERAT Rémi (ASM Clermont Auvergne)(16)

    Back three
    DULIN Brice (Racing 92)(29)
    FALL Benjamin (Montpellier HR)(6)
    PALIS Geoffrey (Castres Olympique)(0)
    THOMAS Teddy (Racing 92)(8)
    VAKATAWA Virimi (Racing 92)(15)


  • #54
    Bazzo
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    Small enough squad when you look at it that way.


  • #55
    prawnsambo
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    Bazzo wrote: »
    Small enough squad when you look at it that way.
    Probably the right way for a new coach to approach it. Not too many chickens to herd and can add to the squad after the first game or two.


  • #56
    prawnsambo
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    Apart from the front row, there's not a lot of experience in that pack.


  • #57
    razorblunt
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    Gourdon back in, great player, one of the few that kept going in Belfast last weekend too.


  • #58
    .ak
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    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Apart from the front row, there's not a lot of experience in that pack.

    Looks like they’re gearing towards a RWC squad.


  • #59
    Squidgy Black
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    Geoffrey Palis is an interesting selection too. Got called up to the 2014 6N squad and was never used, same with last years 6N, part of their Summer tour squad last year but ended up being replaced due to injury. 4 years after being first selected he might get his first cap.


  • #60
    prawnsambo
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    Well you can scratch Bastareaud off the available list to play Ireland. He got three weeks which includes the France v Ireland match. Free to play after that.


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  • #61
    Interested Observer
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    Is Remi Lamerat expected to be fit for the Ireland game?


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