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Bill Maher

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  • 21-02-2019 7:59pm
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    spatchco
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    just thinking out loud why cant we have a show like Bill Maher on RTE or would it be allowed


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    Mr E
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    I don't really rate him. There is something forced and uneasy about his comedy.
    I think Colbert, Noah and Meyers are more likable.


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    lertsnim
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    It would never work with the lightweights we have on television here. Look at Tubridy for example. He goes very easy on all the people he likes and acts like a petulant child with those he doesn't like.


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    The Black Oil
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    Whilst I agree with some of his views (I get the podcast version of the show), his default Republican bashing does get a little tiresome, comedian instincts and political differences aside. I much prefer 'new rules' to the monologue too, it at least has some bite.

    But yes, there should be someone like him here, not for a particular set of beliefs, but the willingness to debate and deal with uncomfortable topics.

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    Ipso
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    He has some great one liners but can waffle on about things he knows nothing about, his laughing at conservatives for not accepting science while being anti vaccine is ridiculous.


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    The Black Oil
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    Ipso wrote: »
    He has some great one liners but can waffle on about things he knows nothing about, his laughing at conservatives for not accepting science while being anti vaccine is ridiculous.

    Well, he just spouts plain old bollocks sometimes. "We have 12 aircraft carriers, nobody else has any." Er, other countries do.

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    Penn
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    Aren't the rules about balance and impartiality far stricter here than America anyway though? I doubt you'd be able to do a Bill Maher (or any other type of similar) show over here even with the right presenter. They'd be completely shackled by rules of balance.


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    SoundsRight
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    He's the best of a bad bunch, I'm that he will actually speak frankly to conservative voices like Steve Bannon and Ann Counter without haranguing them or putting words in their mouth. He doesn't live in the same bubble that other media types inhabit, and knows the white working class vote still counts for something. The other talk show hosts are totally insipid and still sore about Trump's victory.


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    pixelburp
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    Penn wrote: »
    Aren't the rules about balance and impartiality far stricter here than America anyway though? I doubt you'd be able to do a Bill Maher (or any other type of similar) show over here even with the right presenter. They'd be completely shackled by rules of balance.

    I believe so; wouldn't call myself an expert on broadcasting legislation but I'm fairly sure in current affairs programming there's a requirement to have a balancing view on any subject.

    Definitely goes a long way to ensure some kind of rational, mature debate; the recent referenda point towards that as a good example. As emotional as the discussions became, they were still 'round table' debates so all sides got to put their views to the public.

    Obviously the flip-side of that tactic is that sometimes you end up with total cranks on the other side, when the subject is more demonstrably straightforward.

    Happily, where attempts have been made to bring ... 'American' style tactics into these debates, they have been failures. The very last thing I want in Irish political life is demagoguery. I like and appreciate how grown-up and ... well, boring, our current affairs can be. Maher'esque types can stay the hell away - and that's speaking as someone who'd think of himself as Left Wing.


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    rossie1977
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    SoundsRight wrote: »
    He's the best of a bad bunch, I'm that he will actually speak frankly to conservative voices like Steve Bannon and Ann Counter without haranguing them or putting words in their mouth. He doesn't live in the same bubble that other media types inhabit, and knows the white working class vote still counts for something. The other talk show hosts are totally insipid and still sore about Trump's victory.

    His whole gimmick is 'I am left wing but I won't debate anyone who is left wing on topics that matter instead talk to those on far right'

    Yes he isn't establishment like fox, cnn or MSNBC but deep down he is desperately attempting to garner the conservative viewer just like they are


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    EPAndlee
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    Don't really watch his show anymore it got very tiresome for me, the only US politics type show I'd watch now is John Oliver


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