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Is chiropractic nonsense?

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  • 22-02-2019 12:44am
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    Cartroubles
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    Complaining today in work about some back issues I've been having. Pretty much everyone recommended seeing a chiropracter and have had nothing but positive experiences.
    I've never been to one, but I was under the impression that it's hocus pocus nonsense.

    What are your experiences?


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    NIMAN
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    I found it hocus pocus nonsense.


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    Stone Gossard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭Stone Gossard


    I thought Bette Midler was great in Hocus Pocus nonsense


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    Kevin Finnerty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Kevin Finnerty


    The blowjobs she gives are great.


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    Mad_maxx
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    Dangerous quackery

    A Chiropractor damaged my back in 2010, same shyster told me my spine was crooked having observed me walk from the waiting room to his "surgery", guy must have had xray vision or else its just something Chiropractors say?

    Many refer to themselves as doctors but have no legitimacy in doing so


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    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Have a read about the founding of the “discipline” and draw your own conclusions.


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    Cartroubles
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    Stone Gossard wrote: »
    I thought Bette Midler was great in Hocus Pocus nonsense

    Are you playing in Malahide this year or what?


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    Heckler
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    Never would after seeing Jacobs Ladder.


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    NIMAN
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    Seriously op, if anyone has back problems they should be seeing a GP and then a physio, and no-one else.


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    youcantakethat
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    They are dangerous, I never would go near one with my spine again, not if you paid me a fortune. Some of them at least are pure chancers, and I went to 3 or 4 until I realised that.


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    LLewellen Farquarson
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    NIMAN wrote: »
    I found it hocus pocus nonsense.

    Expensive hocus pocus nonsense.

    As suggested, look at the (debunked) history and draw your own conclusions .

    That is why they morfed into back/spine specialists, it is more lucrative and an easier sell.


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    Stone Gossard
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    Cartroubles wrote: »
    Are you playing in Malahide this year or what?

    Inch beach, Eddie wants to go surfing!


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    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users Posts: 7,547 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    I'm from a science background so I'm very torn on it. On one hand, the evidence for it is very limited. On the other hand, a very good chiropractor fixed my back problem of many years, where doctors, physios and sports massages had failed. My back was in so much spasm that if it wasnt for horse riding and forcing a posture, I should have given the Hunchback of Notre Dame a run for his money. I haven't had a day's bother with it since. Now I just warn people to make sure they go to reputable chiropractor if they're going to go. A chiropractor who will say no to treating you in certain circumstances, and go only with back problems. There are more than a few quacks out there.


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    endacl
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    I’m a chiropractor*.

    See?














    *not a chiropractor.


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    _Brian
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    Plenty of well documented cases of paralysis following chairopractor visits, there for anyone to google.

    I know one lad who’s lost 50% use of one leg as a result of failed visit to one.

    It really is rolling the dice visiting quacks like these.

    Proper chartered physiotherapist is the solution.


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    nostro
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭nostro


    Quackery and nonsense.
    Not sure whether they do any harm or whether they believe their own bull**** or know that they are scamming people.
    They tell everyone the exact same thing. That they have a curvature of the spine that they can correct.
    There may be some placebo effect but a complete waste of money.


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    Johnnycanyon
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    My experience with them are mixed. I went to one years ago with a back problem and the only thing he relieved me of was money..But in the last few years I got a twist which gave be a very sore back or so I thought. I went to a different chiropractor and he said it was coming from my groin and should be able to sort it out. He got me on the table done his stuff and said that should be ok now.. I thought to myself, another con job but to my amazement I was totally pain free and never looked back..


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    Stone Gossard
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    Johnnycanyon wrote: »
    My experience with them are mixed. I went to one years ago with a back problem and the only thing he relieved me of was money..But in the last few years I got a twist which gave be a very sore back or so I thought. I went to a different chiropractor and he said it was coming from my groin and should be able to sort it out. He got me on the table done his stuff and said that should be ok now.. I thought to myself, another con job but to my amazement I was totally pain free and never looked back..

    Soooo...you gave him money..he played with your balls...and you felt great....


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    Johnnycanyon
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    Stone Gossard wrote: »
    Soooo...you gave him money..he played with your balls...and you felt great....

    Keep taking your tablets, you will be fine.


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    donspeekinglesh
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    _Brian wrote: »
    Plenty of well documented cases of paralysis following chairopractor visits, there for anyone to google.

    And death. Don't ever let a chiropractor touch your neck.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/the-father-of-playboy-model-katie-mays-daughter-sues-her-chiropractor-for-wrongful-death/news-story/34ac24db599068a550068510ca7cd176

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/healthcare/call-for-age-limit-after-chiropractor-breaks-babys-neck-20130928-2ul6e.html


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    mulbot
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    Wouldn't go to any Chiro in Ireland found them useless with all the same few techniques. However, when I lived in Canada I found thst they have a completely different setup. I only ever was seen after an xray had been done and these are brought along when going for consultation . Fixed a complicated neck and upper back issue for me.


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    freshpopcorn
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    I haven't being to one but know some people who have and they love them. They were sick of going to pysho's with no results.
    I'd be unsure if I'd try one tough.


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    PeteEd
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    I would definitely opt for the services of a seventh son of a seventh son
    A far more reliable charlatan when it comes to my limited experience of back pain


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    #24
    Purple Mountain
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    Was there not a thread on this a few day ago?

    To thine own self be true



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    youcantakethat
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    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    I haven't being to one but know some people who have and they love them. They were sick of going to pysho's with no results.
    I'd be unsure if I'd try one tough.

    Some physios are not much better but at least the physios are medically qualified and will generally not damage you.


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    freshpopcorn
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    youcantakethat wrote: »
    Some physios are not much better but at least the physios are medically qualified and will generally not damage you.

    Yes, I understand this.
    However they tried physio's and even switched them and they just got sick of there pain/issue so they tried a chiropractor and they said they have no regrets and it worked for them.


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    #27
    Purple Mountain
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    Don't some of them use a gadget on your spine instead of their hands?

    To thine own self be true



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    NewClareman
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    mulbot wrote: »
    Wouldn't go to any Chiro in Ireland found them useless with all the same few techniques. However, when I lived in Canada I found thst they have a completely different setup. I only ever was seen after an xray had been done and these are brought along when going for consultation . Fixed a complicated neck and upper back issue for me.

    Funny you should say that. I went to a chiropractor in Limerick city, who was originally from Canada. Two visits and my back was sooo much better. However, he came with many recommendations, and started out doing a back x-ray. He then told me what he could fix and what he couldn’t.

    Unfortunately, the poor man died suddenly, last year, so no more treatment. As a general rule I’m very wary of chiropractors, for all the reasons mentioned above.


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    Magnatu
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    There is a placebo effect with chiropractors.
    There is no scientific evidence that the manipulation of the spine is of any use whatsoever and what they do can be dangerous. But sometimes if someone believes something is helping they can convince themselves that it is. And chiropractors are helped by coincidences. If you pull a back muscle it will probably heal itself over a few weeks.
    However if you go to a chiropractor while it is healing you will probably give credit for the improvement to the chiropractor.
    Having said that many physios and doctors benefit from same causation confusion.


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    Hedgelayer
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    I'd stick with the physio.
    They're there to help you.

    A chiropractor is there to help themselves.

    Back in the 80's and 90's I remember every town and village had these bone setter's.

    Strong men who could burst a golf ball with one hand by the way.

    Call up to Dinjoe there on the side of the mounten, he'll fix Your back for you.

    Sure didn't he pop my brother's disc back in and Bridie didn't need a knee replacement after visiting him.

    I wouldn't go near them.


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    bfa1509
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    I meet with a lot of neurologists as part of my job and I frequently hear them saying to never let anyone touch your neck: either by a family member, a masseuse or especially not a chiropractor. The movements they force on your body can lead to kinking in the vessels supplying blood to the brain, which may lead to a stroke. I have no scientific data to back up this claim, but I certainly would not like to risk it.


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