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Playstation 4 to be released in 2012?

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    #32
    FR.Ted Crilly
    Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭FR.Ted Crilly


    Just got wind of Sony's cheap 3D 24 inch widescreen TV for the PS3,
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/229669/e3_sony_introduces_lowcost_3d_tv_bundle.html
    Hear its da bomb,:D all is not over yet PS3 and you can be assured it will be around for a long time after its successor the PS4 3D Virtual Reality Move Machine or some kind a mad sh!d
    http://thegamershub.net/2011/08/new-ps3-3d-technology-first-look/
    NOW dont tell me you aint goin to tap that right, heh heh heh, thats my sony NAAASSS


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    #33
    purpleblaa
    Registered Users Posts: 107 ✭✭purpleblaa


    FR.Ted Crilly wrote: »
    http://thegamershub.net/2011/08/new-ps3-3d-technology-first-look/
    NOW dont tell me you aint goin to tap that right, heh heh heh, thats my sony NAAASSS


    That looks AWESOME!


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    #34
    TelePaul
    Registered Users Posts: 4,093 ✭✭✭TelePaul


    I think we've finally begun to see developers reach the end of a five-year learning curve. Certain titles - Uncharted 2 springs to mind - have demonstrated just what they can do with the platform. It's a bit of a shame that it's taken five years of mediocre content and scant exclusive titles. Who remembers the original Playstation? The shift from cartridge to CD meant that there were a raft of exclusive games available from day one. I think today's titles are only starting to scratch the surface, and would hate for the PS3 to be the mini disc of consoles, caught between the innovation curves.


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    #35
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    In a PS4 what would i like to See ?

    Well first off the Power running at around 110W to stop it from Over Heating.. That Said

    With the PC starting to Catch up and over Taken the Consoles i like to see a Console that can allow Users to play in a 64 player Online Team DeathMatch. Not with those Small maps that every Turn your getting Killed.


    Specs

    Intel i5 3.2Ghz (Move Away from the PowerPC "Please")

    2Gb RAM (252Mb RAM is Way To Small in a Console)

    Blue Ray Disk-Drive

    1TB HDD

    Dolby Digital 7.1

    Nvidia GeForce 3D
    Price - 900


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    #36
    DarkDusk
    Registered Users Posts: 914 ✭✭✭DarkDusk


    Cork24 wrote: »
    In a PS4 what would i like to See ?

    Well first off the Power running at around 110W to stop it from Over Heating.. That Said

    With the PC starting to Catch up and over Taken the Consoles i like to see a Console that can allow Users to play in a 64 player Online Team DeathMatch. Not with those Small maps that every Turn your getting Killed.


    Specs

    Intel i5 3.2Ghz (Move Away from the PowerPC "Please")

    2Gb RAM (252Mb RAM is Way To Small in a Console)

    Blue Ray Disk-Drive

    1TB HDD

    Dolby Digital 7.1

    Nvidia GeForce 3D
    Price - 900




    No offence or anything, but who's going to buy a €900 console??:eek: Recession or not, we simply can't afford to buy a console that is way more expensive than a PC with similar specs...


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    #37
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    LOL, PCs starting to catch and overtake consoles.


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    #38
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    DarkDusk wrote: »
    No offence or anything, but who's going to buy a €900 console??:eek: Recession or not, we simply can't afford to buy a console that is way more expensive than a PC with similar specs...


    PS3 first when it came out was 900 euro, when i waited for about 6 Months i paid 400 euro


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    #39
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Cork24 wrote: »
    PS3 first when it came out was 900 euro

    Lolwut?!


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    #40
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    amacachi wrote: »
    Lolwut?!


    YES !!! 900 Euro in H-Normans

    I paid 600....

    Now it is about 360 i think. The More they Sell the less the Price goes down as the Units Sales go down so they need to lower the prices..


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    #41
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    It wasn't 900. Unless you were buying half a dozen more controllers with it.


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    #42
    whiterebel
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    Cork24 wrote: »
    YES !!! 900 Euro in H-Normans

    I paid 600....

    Now it is about 360 i think. The More they Sell the less the Price goes down as the Units Sales go down so they need to lower the prices..

    It was in its arse. They must have been quoting you for their extended warranty as well.....:pac:


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    #43
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    So you tell me how much you paid for it.. As i can Remember my Friends getting it the First day and Forking out 900 euros...

    I paid 600 for mine next you be telling me that it wasnt 600 euros I can Remember HN doing Finance for the PS3

    If you look at the Sony PS3 Community This Question has come up more then once and it was 600Dollars in America,, Now We all know America is cheaper then UK & Ireland for everything so if a Console was Worth 600 Dollars it would be fair to say it was well over the 600 mark here...

    Some people Even paid 900dollars for their 60Gb. i seen on Yahoo


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    #44
    Cork24
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    whiterebel wrote: »
    It was in its arse. They must have been quoting you for their extended warranty as well.....:pac:



    What your telling me i didnt pay 600 Euro? i got mine in Game


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    #45
    guil
    Registered Users Posts: 10,475 ✭✭✭✭guil


    PS3 was 630 when it was released, i bought my 60gb in june 07 in a bundle in gamestop, it was 700 with a choice of 2 sony games

    i spent 2 grand that day between the ps3, few games and blu rays, an extra control and a new LCD


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    #46
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Cork24 wrote: »
    In a PS4 what would i like to See ?

    Reliability, something more inspiring than XMB, & fleets of high quality games.
    Cork24 wrote:
    Well first off the Power running at around 110W to stop it from Over Heating.. That Said

    Better design materials is all. Sony are known to use really crappy thermal paste for one.
    Cork24 wrote:
    With the PC starting to Catch up and over Taken the Consoles

    No, what we have are small pc's in fancy shells.
    Cork24 wrote:
    i like to see a Console that can allow Users to play in a 64 player Online Team DeathMatch. Not with those Small maps that every Turn your getting Killed.

    Hmm, maybe you should start gaming on the pc instead?
    Cork24 wrote:
    Specs

    Intel i5 3.2Ghz (Move Away from the PowerPC "Please")

    2Gb RAM (252Mb RAM is Way To Small in a Console)

    Blue Ray Disk-Drive

    1TB HDD

    Dolby Digital 7.1

    Nvidia GeForce 3D
    Price - 900


    In all fairness, the price for that is madness. The PS4 just needs to break the mould. Sony did it with the PS1, demolished the competition & there was nothing else like it out there for ages. It seems MS & Sony are so afraid to put a step wrong these days, they end up making almost the same machine with a different badge.

    Sony, something different next please.


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    #47
    jaykhunter
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 12,013 Mod ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I'd be more interested in what the main selling point would be. If 3D took off, there was increased processing power necessary then they'd need to bring one out to accomodate it.......but i don't think people are that interested.

    Graphics are amazing, there's a massive difference between PS1 and 2, and 2 and 3. We're at a 'saturation point' for amazing looking graphics. Are devs clamering to get double the texture res's etc?

    I'm not sure where we should see improvement really; this stuff looks amazing on a massive tv already... One thing I'd like to improve is the facial animation - as seen in LA Noire. But other than that, i don't see a reason (and so a selling point) for a new console.

    Like Xboxes need more space because they're basically using DVD9s; so the alternative is to have things on 2-3 discs. Which is a hassle; it's more in the eyes of the consumer than spending the extra 20 cents pressing the discs...

    Graphics are the readily demonstratable selling point for a new console; but we've reached that zenith where you need something more than that...what would the new selling point for a console be? They've already brought out a motion controller :confused:


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    #48
    13spanner
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭13spanner


    Do people actually want a motion controller? If the Wii is anything to go by, I sure don't. They should keep it classic with the type of controller the ps2 created and the ps3 perfected IMO. If it ain't broke....


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    #49
    amacachi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    I'd be more interested in what the main selling point would be. If 3D took off, there was increased processing power necessary then they'd need to bring one out to accomodate it.......but i don't think people are that interested.

    Graphics are amazing, there's a massive difference between PS1 and 2, and 2 and 3. We're at a 'saturation point' for amazing looking graphics. Are devs clamering to get double the texture res's etc?

    I'm not sure where we should see improvement really; this stuff looks amazing on a massive tv already... One thing I'd like to improve is the facial animation - as seen in LA Noire. But other than that, i don't see a reason (and so a selling point) for a new console.

    Like Xboxes need more space because they're basically using DVD9s; so the alternative is to have things on 2-3 discs. Which is a hassle; it's more in the eyes of the consumer than spending the extra 20 cents pressing the discs...

    Graphics are the readily demonstratable selling point for a new console; but we've reached that zenith where you need something more than that...what would the new selling point for a console be? They've already brought out a motion controller :confused:
    I said that meself in a few places. Looking over the last few generations the step-up for PS1 was 3D graphics. To PS2 it was 3D that wasn't terrible. :pac: To PS3 it was HD and much better in general. While I do think there'd be a visibly difference between PS3 and PS4 it's not going to be anything like the usual generational leaps so I strongly doubt either MS or Sony are looking forward to having to bring out a new console.


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    #50
    Captain Chaos
    Registered Users Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    13spanner wrote: »
    Do people actually want a motion controller? If the Wii is anything to go by, I sure don't. They should keep it classic with the type of controller the ps2 created and the ps3 perfected IMO. If it ain't broke....

    What Sony need for the PS4 is a new controller design more than anything else. The DualShock is from the PSX days. I used it to play Ace Combat 2 in 1997 and it was amazing over what a d-pad control was like to fly with but now they need a new more comfortable design.

    Sega almost nailed is with the DC and MS copied it for the Xbox and Nintendo with the GC controller layout. The new controller needs to be a bit bigger and heavier with the d-pad and left stick swapped around and the L2 and R2 buttons should be anything other than the concave design they used for the PS3, woeful design.


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    #51
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    In terms of a technical jump Carmack covered what a lot of devs would love in an interview with Tom's Guide. That would obviously be a move away from more off the shelf parts which have featured in both consoles this gen so I'd wager next gen will be more of the same, albeit beefier, with no drastic changes.

    As for a general target for the next gen, for me it's simple, the ability to comfortably run 1080p at 60fps. 3D support makes this slightly more complex of course given the need to drop resolution or framerate but I think at least giving devs the option of which one to cut would be good enough for now.

    As for the topic, of course the PS4 isn't coming out in the rumoured time scale.


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    #52
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,094 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    This is a very odd thread.
    Cork24 wrote: »
    YES !!! 900 Euro in H-Normans

    No, it wasn't.

    I recall it being five hundred and ninety nine US dollars but I could be wrong on that.


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    #53
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,483 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    gizmo wrote: »
    As for a general target for the next gen, for me it's simple, the ability to comfortably run 1080p at 60fps. 3D support makes this slightly more complex of course given the need to drop resolution or framerate but I think at least giving devs the option of which one to cut would be good enough for now.

    Planning for 1080p, 60fps, and 3D is half the work (a good start etc). Designing with these in mind will take much of the effort out of it.

    As long as the PS4 is black and the controller is mostly a dualshock, i'll probably be happy with the aesthetics and ergonomics of it.


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    #54
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Cork24 wrote: »
    What your telling me i didnt pay 600 Euro? i got mine in Game

    I didn't say you didn't pay €600, I'm saying it wasn't €900 at launch. I paid €600 for the PS3 + 2 games October after launch.


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    #55
    DarkDusk
    Registered Users Posts: 914 ✭✭✭DarkDusk


    whiterebel wrote: »
    I didn't say you didn't pay €600, I'm saying it wasn't €900 at launch. I paid €600 for the PS3 + 2 games October after launch.

    I paid 480 for the PS3, GT5: Prologue and another game plus a second controller during April of the year after launch, so I guess I got a pretty good deal!:D


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    #56
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    DarkDusk wrote: »
    I paid 480 for the PS3, GT5: Prologue and another game plus a second controller during April of the year after launch, so I guess I got a pretty good deal!:D

    Good alright. I got a second controller, Resistance and FIFA from HMV.


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    #57
    CiDeRmAn
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,528 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Cork24 wrote: »
    So you tell me how much you paid for it.. As i can Remember my Friends getting it the First day and Forking out 900 euros...

    Must have been really really big windows in your local video game store and, boy, did they see you coming!
    And as for the launch price for those of us not currently inhabiting La La Land,
    The long-awaited PlayStation 3 will finally go on sale across Europe on 23 March, and will cost 599 Euros.


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    #58
    Varik
    Registered Users Posts: 12,483 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    Whether the PS4 releases in the near or not so near future, do you think KB will still be around or have retired for good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40CYAx4qc5E


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    #59
    Beefy78
    Registered Users Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Captain Chaos wrote: »
    What Sony need for the PS4 is a new controller design more than anything else. The DualShock is from the PSX days. I used it to play Ace Combat 2 in 1997 and it was amazing over what a d-pad control was like to fly with but now they need a new more comfortable design.

    Sega almost nailed is with the DC and MS copied it for the Xbox and Nintendo with the GC controller layout. The new controller needs to be a bit bigger and heavier with the d-pad and left stick swapped around and the L2 and R2 buttons should be anything other than the concave design they used for the PS3, woeful design.

    God no. It's no coincidence that X-Box owners are clamouring to buy a periphery device which lets them play games without using their retarded control pad.

    Obviously I agree with the L2/R2 comment though.


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    #60
    gizmo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Beefy78 wrote: »
    God no. It's no coincidence that X-Box owners are clamouring to buy a periphery device which lets them play games without using their retarded control pad.
    I assume you're referring to the d-pad on the 360 controller and not the actual controller itself? :confused:


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    #61
    Beefy78
    Registered Users Posts: 8,163 ✭✭✭Beefy78


    Everything about the controller I find to be absolutely horrid. It's the wrong size, the wrong shape, my thumb always slips off of the stick because it's in the wrong place. I don't understand why some people like it.


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