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Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread X: [****]

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  • #122
    Richie_Rich89
    Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Richie_Rich89


    I'm not too sure about this Joe Tomane lad's credentials as a 12. Am I right in thinking that he never played inside centre before moving to Montpellier? Playing a few games there in the retirement league that is the Top14 doesn't count for much in my book.

    What kind of a player is he? Is he a dependable defender who can be trusted to put in a lot of physical tackles, like Robbie Henshaw, say? Or is he inclined to slip off a few?

    Does he have the nous in attack to fix his defender and time the pass correctly?

    I just wonder whether switching McFadden into 12 would have been a better option - that would have opened up more gametime on the wing for Daly as well.

    Time will tell


  • #123
    salmocab
    Registered Users Posts: 11,282 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Richie_Rich89 wrote: »
    I'm not too sure about this Joe Tomane lad's credentials as a 12. Am I right in thinking that he never played inside centre before moving to Montpellier? Playing a few games there in the retirement league that is the Top14 doesn't count for much in my book.

    What kind of a player is he? Is he a dependable defender who can be trusted to put in a lot of physical tackles, like Robbie Henshaw, say? Or is he inclined to slip off a few?

    Does he have the nous in attack to fix his defender and time the pass correctly?

    I just wonder whether switching McFadden into 12 would have been a better option - that would have opened up more gametime on the wing for Daly as well.

    Time will tell
    Was he brought in to play 12?


  • #124
    Richie_Rich89
    Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭Richie_Rich89


    salmocab wrote: »
    Was he brought in to play 12?

    Oh, I'd say so, primarily. I mean, there's no need/space elsewhere. Although, of course, he could end up playing some games on the wing. Perhaps the breakdown by position will be similar to Nacewa in his last season.


  • #125
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,174 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I would imagine he'll shift around as required. He didn't play in the centre at all before the T14 but played plenty after going to France in the T14 and the ECC both of which are comfortably of a higher standard than the run of the mill Pro14 games. The only way he plays in a high level match for Leinster in the centre is if Ringrose or Henshaw is injured and, if that's the case, I'm grand with him as a back up. He's more than capable of slotting in on the wing as a starter at any level we play this season too.

    I expect him to play 12 in some Pro14 games when the international players are unavailable or possibly at 13 with ROL or Reid playing inside him. Regardless, I've few concerns over him wherever he is lining out.


  • #126
    stephen_n
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    Richie_Rich89 wrote: »

    I just wonder whether switching McFadden into 12 would have been a better option - that would have opened up more gametime on the wing for Daly as well.

    Time will tell

    I’m a big fan of Fergs but in all honesty I’d prefer to see Noel Reid at 12 than Ferg. Tomane has always impressed both in defence and attack when he’s played for Montpelier against us. He may not be on Isa’s level (who is), but he’ll be a step up on what we have. Though I could say ROL playing 12 with Tomane outside him.


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  • #127
    [Deleted User]
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    Presume we'll be lucky to get some random facebook stream of the pre season game this Friday. I'd imagine it will be a 30 man squad with Ruddock in as captain.

    When is VDF due back does anyone know?

    Taking the wife and kids to the Newcastle game - will be great having NH rugby back albeit I watched a lot more super rugby this year than previous years. Super rugby final was quite one sided, would love to see how Leinster would fare against the Crusaders.


  • #128
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    durthacht wrote: »
    Do any of you have thoughts on how likely are the Leinster Academy year 3 backs to see game time this year? I'm thinking of


    Of those, Keenan and Jimmy O'Brien seem to have done well for the 7s but have barely played for the seniors for the seniors. This is due to be their last academy year so I guess it's now or never, but the competition in Leinster's backs is pretty intense.

    I'm interested as Keenan and the O'Briens were on the 2016 junior world cup finalist team and I thought then that they would make it at senior level. It's always tough to tell I suppose.

    I'm also surprised none of them (or Nash in Munster) have been linked with Ulster, who are short of numbers even with Spreight joining. They have been some of the best performing under age backs in Ireland in recent years and there seems a clearer pathway in Ulster.

    Keenan and JOB have become pretty integral parts of the 7s squad. With the world series qualification and the Olympics the 2 short/ medium term goals, I can see them focusing on that this year and be released at the end of this year from the Academy and hopefully their 7s career succeeds.

    Jack Kelly showed reasonable promise at underage I remember but wasn't exactly prodigious. Had a disappointing season last year with injuries.

    Looks like it might be a straight shoot out between COB and Tom Daly for the squad 12 role. Both similar size and weight. COB looks like he might have a bit more to his skill set. Quite possible that neither of them make it. Gavin Mullen (capped likely due to injuries to both above) and Tommy O'Brien both could prove themselves to be options at 12 also


  • #129
    arsebiscuits1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,515 ✭✭✭arsebiscuits1


    Venjur wrote: »
    Presume we'll be lucky to get some random facebook stream of the pre season game this Friday. I'd imagine it will be a 30 man squad with Ruddock in as captain.

    When is VDF due back does anyone know?

    Taking the wife and kids to the Newcastle game - will be great having NH rugby back albeit I watched a lot more super rugby this year than previous years. Super rugby final was quite one sided, would love to see how Leinster would fare against the Crusaders.

    Given he's only running a few weeks I would say he's targeting an October come back.

    http://www.the42.ie/jordi-murphy-van-der-flier-inspiration-3995595-May2018/

    He said here he is aiming for September.

    Given when he started running I think (with literally no medical knowledge or info to back it up) that October is more likely


  • #130
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,072 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Losing guys to 7's isn't ideal. Why would they be cut? J.O.B appears to be a very good player, surely he wouldn't be stuck as 7's player.


  • #131
    Dubinusa
    Registered Users Posts: 8,072 ✭✭✭Dubinusa


    Keenan is a natural successor to Ferg/ D.K. I think it's madness to just let them go. Why even play 7's if you are not going to the pro ranks?
    Jack Kelly from what I have seen is not as good as Keenan and J.O.B.


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  • #132
    CowGoesMoo100
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    Dubinusa wrote: »
    Keenan is a natural successor to Ferg/ D.K. I think it's madness to just let them go. Why even play 7's if you are not going to the pro ranks?
    Jack Kelly from what I have seen is not as good as Keenan and J.O.B.
    Don't rate Keenan at all.Kelly is way better than him IMO.Can't really compare him to JOB though. Different positions.


  • #133
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,063 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Is international 7s pro?


  • #134
    Clegg
    Registered Users Posts: 16,632 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Sexton is the new Leinster captain and Ruddock the new vice-captain.



  • #135
    arsebiscuits1
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    Clegg wrote: »
    Sexton is the new Leinster captain and Ruddock the new vice-captain.

    https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/status/1026853913553788929?s=19

    Initially was a bit unsure as Sexton hardly lines out for us.

    But he was capped 12 times last season and Isa was only capped 15 so it evened out ha


  • #136
    VANG1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 222 ✭✭VANG1


    According to breaking news planning has been approved for the RDS


  • #137
    Uriel.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    VANG1 wrote: »
    According to breaking news planning has been approved for the RDS

    It's effectively a renewal of an expiring permission. Is development still expected to commence next summer.

    An extra c. 740 seats ain't all that exciting but I just hope the comfort and viewing experience are greatly improved.


  • #138
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    pickarooney wrote: »
    Is international 7s pro?

    I think it's semi-pro. Majority of the players are in the academy system/extended provincial squads.

    Not sure what kind of money the likes of Terry Kennedy, Dardis etc would be on now that they've been released.


  • #139
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,605 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    So Johnny's captain for the season, with Rhys as vice captain.

    I'm not too convinced on that decision to be honest. He's obviously a leader and one of the head honchos of the squad, but with his reputation with refs (due to being a flyhalf who are always moanbags) and also due to potentially being rested because of the RWC it's a strange one.


  • #140
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,335 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I am surprised tbh, always felt Sexton was too mouthy/whingey to be an effective captain.


  • #141
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I always felt he'd be more of a 'lead by example' type of a leader. Someone who could lift the performance of other players.

    That doesn't make him an effective captain essentialily. Personally think swapping the two choices would have been the right move.


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  • #142
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,105 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Apparently lifestyle in town have a dummy ready with new jersey but it is covered over. Will have wander by in morning to see if a sneak peak is possible


  • #143
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,781 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    awec wrote: »
    I am surprised tbh, always felt Sexton was too mouthy/whingey to be an effective captain.

    "I know you hate me, but you have to talk to me" JS June 2018.

    I'm sure today's news will have M. P. Gauzere rolling his eyes.


  • #144
    AbusesToilets
    Registered Users Posts: 9,951 ✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Clegg wrote: »
    Sexton is the new Leinster captain and Ruddock the new vice-captain.

    https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/status/1026853913553788929?s=19

    Surprised at that TBH. I wonder if Rhys' injury issues are the reason he wasn't made Captain outright. I really hope he can stay healthy this year and make the 23 for the WC. Easily the best 6 playing for the last ~2 seasons.


  • #145
    [Deleted User]
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    Rhy's is vice because Sexton rarely plays for Leinster and Ruddock will be looking for every minute he can get.

    Regardless, Captains pick themselves.


  • #146
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Home - Blue (same as off field)
    Away - Dark Green/Black
    European- Navy


  • #147
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,598 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    kmart6 wrote: »
    Home - Blue (same as off field)
    Away - Dark Green/Black
    European- Navy

    Rumour, or you've seen it?


  • #148
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,207 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Dark Green/Black :confused:


  • #149
    Peregrine
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Dark Green/Black :confused:

    That should be interesting. The only similar coloured Leinster jersey that I can remember is the one vs the Reds.


  • #150
    kmart6
    Registered Users Posts: 15,172 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    Yeah finding it hard to put a colour on it tbh, you'll see tomorrow.


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  • #151
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,207 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    It just seems a pretty wild departure from our standard white away jersey. Maybe whoever had a hand in that black/green Ireland jersey we wore against SA is involved...


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