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Ireland is now only 82% Native Irish.

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    #122
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    recedite wrote: »
    That's an interesting question, and while it seems difficult or impossible to answer, it is in fact quite simple to answer.
    The answer is No, not after it happens. And before it happens, they are mostly oblivious to it.


    After it gets to that level, the people redefine themselves as "a nation of immigrants" and "the majority" are quite happy then with that situation.
    You can see this effect working in London and some of the other cities of the UK. They have a very different attitude to issues such as Brexit when compared with some other parts of England that are still inhabited by "native" English people.

    Immigrants like immigrants is what you are saying here.


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    #123
    vladmydad
    Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    vladmydad wrote: »
    Anyone notice the large plant boxes blocking vehicle access to busy pedestrian streets in Dublin this weekend ?
    Just another example of the new reality of all this cultural enrichment.

    Go on. There is one word you are dying to use throughout this thread...just say it and get it out in the open. We all know what you have been referring to all along. There is no need to hide it.

    Wow man, you’re cranky this morning.
    Anyway they are lovely plant boxes and surprisingly sturdy, I bet they could even stop a madman in a truck but that would never happen in Ireland.


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    #124
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    stimpson wrote: »
    It’s the Chinese he’s after, not the Greeks.

    We can't get rid of them. Who would make the Chinese food we love to take away?


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    #125
    Dr_serious2
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Dr_serious2


    Most of the people making these decisions and lauding immigration actually live in wealthy areas with zero ethnic diversity and send their children to gaeilscoileanna or private schools where there are no foreign children at all.


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    #126
    Deub
    Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Deub


    Den14 wrote: »
    It's the potential 'ghettos' that may establish in areas that could be a concern.
    Integration is so important.
    And the following video demonstrates when this doesn't happen. There is a recently made video where a female journalist attempts to walk around a suburb of paris... A good eye opener

    https://youtu.be/RlNCVQGFrMU

    You should share some background when posting videos. When France needed labour they allowed people to emigrate in big numbers. The big issue is that instead of integrating them, they build big blocks of flats and put everyone there. How could they integrate when they were "parked".
    I don't see the Irish state building complex only for immigrants.


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    #127
    vladmydad
    Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    Dr_serious2 wrote: »
    Most of the people making these decisions and lauding immigration actually live in wealthy areas with zero ethnic diversity and send their children to gaeilscoileanna where there are no foreign children at all.
    Same in Washington DC. The pro diversity elites live in gated homogeneous community’s and suffer little of the problems of mass immigration.


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    #128
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Wow man, you’re cranky this morning.
    Anyway they are lovely plant boxes and surprisingly sturdy, I bet they could even stop a madman in a truck but that would never happen in Ireland.

    I'm just dancing the dance that you are leading. You make the understanding of it so easy. Usually when I see interpretative dancing I don't have a clue what's going on, so thank you for making it so clear.


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    #129
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Without the racist, xenophobic accusations and all that crap, does anyone have any concerns about just how rapidly the Irish people are decreasing in Ireland ?
    It’s a very recent phenomenon and given that immigration into Ireland is ever increasing and that the birth rates of the “new” Irish are dramatically higher than natives. It is inevitable that 82% will soon be 70% , 55%, 40% etc.

    There is no debate in Irish media or politics about this and we have never voted on the issue. In fact it’s actually taboo. What are your thoughts?

    Regarding birth rates, it's been observed that while migrants often have higher birthrates than natives, this tends to level off with the second and third generations, so decline in native population percentage will not be anywhere near as rapid as you may think.


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    #130
    vladmydad
    Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    vladmydad wrote: »
    Wow man, you’re cranky this morning.
    Anyway they are lovely plant boxes and surprisingly sturdy, I bet they could even stop a madman in a truck but that would never happen in Ireland.

    I'm just dancing the dance with you that you are leading. You make the understanding of it so easy. Usually when I see interpretative dancing I don't have a clue what's going on, so thank you for making it so clear.

    I’m here to help. Have you done your Christmas shopping yet ? Ehh actually you might want to avoid any Christmas markets, they’ve become surprisingly dangerous...... but that has nothing to do with cultural enrichment,


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    #131
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Wow man, you’re cranky this morning.
    Anyway they are lovely plant boxes and surprisingly sturdy, I bet they could even stop a madman in a truck but that would never happen in Ireland.

    Do you have any actual proof that's the purpose they serve? Do you read a lot of Infowars?


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    #132
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Wow man, you’re cranky this morning.
    Anyway they are lovely plant boxes and surprisingly sturdy, I bet they could even stop a madman in a truck but that would never happen in Ireland.

    It could. But historically we didn’t need to import terrorists, we kept that in house.

    So what’s your point?


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    #133
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    batgoat wrote: »
    Do you have any actual proof that's the purpose they serve? Do you read a lot of Infowars?

    I notice that they slow down the delivery drivers to the shops. It was an excellent idea as some of them drive like lunatics even when there are many people around.


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    #134
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Plenty of those immigrants are white and when they have children here those children will grow up to be considered 'native irish' , just shows how ridiculous and trivial the whole thing is really, nobody is native because how far back do you back in a family tree to determine this? All we can do is try to just bring in immigrants we think will improve the country and make sure they assimilate to the culture of the people who already live here


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    #135
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    vladmydad wrote: »
    I’m here to help. Have you done your Christmas shopping yet ? Ehh actually you might want to avoid any Christmas markets, they’ve become surprisingly dangerous...... but that has nothing to do with cultural enrichment,

    Over the last few years I have visited Christmas markets in Germany, the UK and Ireland. We don't do them so well in Ireland, but the ones in Germany and Birmingham in particular were a delight. I had a great time visiting them.


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    #136
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    stimpson wrote: »
    Even the travellers are not genetically separate from the rest of the population, despite what some would have you think.

    The one thing I love about genetics is that genes are used by the hard right as a propaganda tool for “racial purity”, but the science shows that few of us are actually “pure” - we’re all mongrels to some extent.

    And that due to genetic diseases being passed on to offspring, being pure is not a good thing.

    The argument to pure genetics is only made by the left in fact, as a strawman argument that they claim the right makes.

    Maintaining ethnic native majorities is hardly possible, but of course the country should be able to dictate the scale and who comes into the country. And it should pursue integration policies.

    There are also problems in any one generation if resources are overwhelmed and wages stagnate. Another problem is the racial hucksterism of the cultural left, a class largely from the leafy suburbs and far away from any problems.

    They know, and we know, that that are the most racist class in the country. They know and we know that they have a lock on upper middle class jobs for upper middle class white Irish (RTE). . They know and we know they are the classes that largely supported the racist British empire.

    But we also know we can’t say it.


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    #137
    vladmydad
    Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    batgoat wrote: »
    vladmydad wrote: »
    Wow man, you’re cranky this morning.
    Anyway they are lovely plant boxes and surprisingly sturdy, I bet they could even stop a madman in a truck but that would never happen in Ireland.

    Do you have any actual proof that's the purpose they serve? Do you read a lot of Infowars?

    Spoke directly with a member of the Gardí and DCC and yes they are barriers to stop Islamic nuts from killing people. Same in London Rome etc. it’s a sign of the future.


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    #138
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,408 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Our biggest immigrant group are the Brits, probably followed by east Europeans.

    A handful of Muslims, it's the end of humanity.


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    #139
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Spoke directly with a member of the Gardí and DCC and yes they are barriers to stop Islamic nuts from killing people. Same in London Rome etc. it’s a sign of the future.

    Finally got that word off your chest! :D


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    #140
    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭stimpson


    vladmydad wrote: »
    I’m here to help. Have you done your Christmas shopping yet ? Ehh actually you might want to avoid any Christmas markets, they’ve become surprisingly dangerous...... but that has nothing to do with cultural enrichment,

    I don’t think you’re Irish at all, Vlad.

    If you were, then you would realise that ALL Irish politics is about the Civil war. We have an openly gay, half Indian Taoiseach and the only reason people hate him is that he’s a Blueshirt.

    Nobody cares where the immigrants are from as long as they take your side.


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    #141
    RWCNT
    Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    vladmydad wrote: »
    Anyone notice the large plant boxes blocking vehicle access to busy pedestrian streets in Dublin this weekend ?
    Just another example of the new reality of all this cultural enrichment.

    Oh god, a government taking pro active steps to keep its people safe, doing something simple to mitigate disaster just in case - oh, the horror.

    Didn't take long for the mask to slip with you, did it? Go back to pulling your plum to ComputingForever videos on YouTube or whatever other **** lords you borrow your beliefs from.


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    #142
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    batgoat wrote: »
    Do you have any actual proof that's the purpose they serve? Do you read a lot of Infowars?

    Don’t know about the ones in Ireland but that’s what they are there for on the continent.


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    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    RWCNT wrote: »
    Oh god, a government taking pro active steps to keep its people safe, doing something simple to mitigate disaster just in case - oh, the horror.

    Didn't take long for the mask to slip with you, did it? Go back to pulling your plum to ComputingForever videos on YouTube or whatever other **** lords you borrow your beliefs from.

    Taking active steps because of an increase in potential terrorism.


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    #144
    vladmydad
    Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    stimpson wrote: »
    vladmydad wrote: »
    I’m here to help. Have you done your Christmas shopping yet ? Ehh actually you might want to avoid any Christmas markets, they’ve become surprisingly dangerous...... but that has nothing to do with cultural enrichment,

    I don’t think you’re Irish at all, Vlad.

    If you were, then you would realise that ALL Irish politics is about the Civil war. We have an openly gay, half Indian Taoiseach and the only reason people hate him is that he’s a Blueshirt.

    Nobody cares where the immigrants are from as long as they take your side.
    Lol all Irish politics is about leftism. FF FG SF labour all left wing , pro immigration, pro EU, socially liberal.


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    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,408 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Taking active steps because of an increase in potential terrorism.


    Damn unionists.


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    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users Posts: 6,482 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Taking active steps because of an increase in potential terrorism.

    Nah, it's to slow down delivery drivers and to ensure that Henry St is not used as a shortcut for the Kinahans and Hutches getaway vehicles after their latest shooting in the North Inner city. :pac:


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    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    vladmydad wrote: »
    I’m here to help. Have you done your Christmas shopping yet ? Ehh actually you might want to avoid any Christmas markets, they’ve become surprisingly dangerous...... but that has nothing to do with cultural enrichment,

    Tens of millions of people attend christmas markets across europe annually without any danger


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    #148
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    kneemos wrote: »
    Damn unionists.

    Don’t think it’s them. Maybe they might kick off after a United ireland, but I wouldn’t support that.


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    vladmydad
    Registered Users Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    RWCNT wrote: »
    vladmydad wrote: »
    Anyone notice the large plant boxes blocking vehicle access to busy pedestrian streets in Dublin this weekend ?
    Just another example of the new reality of all this cultural enrichment.

    Oh god, a government taking pro active steps to keep its people safe, doing something simple to mitigate disaster just in case - oh, the horror.

    Didn't take long for the mask to slip with you, did it? Go back to pulling your plum to ComputingForever videos on YouTube or whatever other **** lords you borrow your beliefs from.
    So you admit an increase risk of terrorism because of our Islamic friends but that’s ok because your a good lefty.


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    #150
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Nah, it's to slow down delivery drivers and to ensure that Henry St is not used as a shortcut for the Kinahans and Hutches getaway vehicles after their latest shooting in the North Inner city. :pac:

    Yeh? They were erected after the attacks in Paris.


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    #151
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Nah, it's to slow down delivery drivers and to ensure that Henry St is not used as a shortcut for the Kinahans and Hutches getaway vehicles after their latest shooting in the North Inner city. :pac:

    You'd honestly think that the UK didn't face significant risks of terrorism from the 70s to 90s. Same for mainland Europe. You had the IRA, Red Army Faction and ETA.


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