What was the fcuking big deal about the Sopranos?

Women without Makeup · 12-01-2019 2:25pm #1

Dare I say, how did it end up being considered the best show of all time by so many. Is it just that anything about mafia is always considered good tv? Do people pretend to like to look cool... like the way people pretend to think Brando was a good actor. I can't say I've watched the entire series from start to finish. And is it just a coincidence that anyone who likes it also likes 'The Wire'.

I get that there's the shock factor of the way they just murder some poor innocent fellow or the street and then laugh about. I mean that would grab anyone's attention, but it doesn't make it good drama. Especially when you always know who's going to get killed. When Christopher kicked the **** out of a fella in acting the acting class, I could see it coming a mile away.

I can a lot of people who know me well telling me "you'd definitely like it". All I think to myself is "you're so poor at understanding people if you don't if see that someone like me wouldn't be into that".

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irishfeen · 12-01-2019 2:25pm

Because it’s absolutely brilliant... simples

Bada Bing!

Voodoomelon · 12-01-2019 2:27pm

Women without Makeup wrote: »

And is it just a coincidence that anyone who likes it also likes 'The Wire'.

I take it by this statement you're not a fan of The Wire either. In which case you have no business commenting on what's good or bad TV.

greencap · 12-01-2019 2:28pm

Galdofinis consistently amazing acting across the dozens of episodes.

LessOutragePlz · 12-01-2019 2:29pm

I'm an idiot who knows nothing.

It's a matter of taste and preference clearly a lot of people consider it great tv me included.

FTA69 · 12-01-2019 2:33pm

“You look like a Puerto Rican whore.”

Church on Tuesday · 12-01-2019 2:34pm

Great theme tune too

https://youtu.be/YDDkCiUhHCc

CalamariFritti · 12-01-2019 2:36pm

You have to get into it and its characters like with every other show. Rewatched Sopranos about a year ago and loved it even more than the first time around.

trashcan · 12-01-2019 2:36pm

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I take it by this statement you're not a fan of The Wire either. In which case you have no business commenting on what's good or bad TV.

Ha. Amen to that in my view. The Sopranos was a very good TV drama, the Wire is something else again. Best thing I've ever seen, or expect to see on TV or film.

If you don't like those shows, what would your version of good TV drama be ? Generic crap like CSI/Law and Order etc ? Mush like Downtown Abbey perhaps ?

Most mainstream TV drama is awful, which is why shows like the Wire and the Sopranos stand out. Honourable mentions to Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul, Line of Duty, Narcos and Peaky Blinders (in no particular order as they say.)

Mr. Guappa · 12-01-2019 2:38pm

Women without Makeup wrote: »

Dare I say, how did it end up being considered the best show of all time by so many. Is it just that anything about mafia is always considered good tv? Do people pretend to like to look cool... like the way people pretend to think Brando was a good actor. I can't say I've watched the entire series from start to finish. And is it just a coincidence that anyone who likes it also likes 'The Wire'.

I get that there's the shock factor of the way they just murder some poor innocent fellow or the street and then laugh about. I mean that would grab anyone's attention, but it doesn't make it good drama. Especially when you always know who's going to get killed. When Christopher kicked the **** out of a fella in acting the acting class, I could see it coming a mile away.

I can a lot of people who know me well telling me "you'd definitely like it". All I think to myself is "you're so poor at understanding people if you don't if see that someone like me wouldn't be into that".

What do you consider good TV so?

Kimbot · 12-01-2019 2:38pm

Op why not give it a watch to see what the big deal is about it instead of asking here.

Women without Makeup · 12-01-2019 2:39pm

trashcan wrote: »

If you don't like those shows, what would your version of good TV drama be ? Generic crap like CSI/Law and Order etc ? Mush like Downtown Abbey perhaps ?

Nip/Tuck and The Mentalist.

I liked Mad Men just a little bit too.

facehugger99 · 12-01-2019 2:40pm

Women without Makeup wrote: »

. And is it just a coincidence that anyone who likes it also likes 'The Wire'.
.

No, it's called having taste.

bnt · 12-01-2019 2:42pm

Never watched it, and have been considering it based on its reputation, but I don't know if I want to watch eighty-six episodes about Mafia gangsters.

James__10 · 12-01-2019 2:50pm

Move along fella

Pero_Bueno · 12-01-2019 2:50pm

OP obviously never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

kneemos · 12-01-2019 2:53pm

It's all deep and ****.

PropJoe10 · 12-01-2019 2:54pm

I'm an idiot who knows nothing.

It's the combination of great characters, script, and consistently brilliant acting. And James Gandolfini was an absolute genius.

Back to watching Home & Away for you, OP!

Sleeper12 · 12-01-2019 2:55pm

I'm an idiot who knows nothing.

First episode of the Supranos is 20 years old now. I think it still stands up as a great show.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 12-01-2019 2:58pm

I'm an idiot who knows nothing.

You didn’t like it. Fine. There’s no requirement to. But you seem just as annoyed at people liking the show. Which is odd.

killbillvol2 · 12-01-2019 2:58pm

bnt wrote: »

Never watched it, and have been considering it based on its reputation, but I don't know if I want to watch eighty-six episodes about Mafia gangsters.

It's not about Mafia gangsters, it's actually a family drama.

TerrorFirmer · 12-01-2019 2:59pm

I think you are totally missing the point of the show as well. It shows us that even the most ruthless, horrible people going are still human at the end of the day, often very likeable in fact. Plus we often tend to forget that even the worst people have mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, kids, or whatever, as well as somewhat 'normal' social lives, interests, problems, needs, etc outside of the job.

Everyone in the show had depth. Aside from James Gandolfini, I always think of Bobby, he's a made man and he extorts, blackmails, even murders in the show, but he's quite shy, reserved, doesn't cheat on his wife like the others and is obsessed with model trains.

Plus it was fascinating for people to find themselves actually rooting for the violent, aggressive, misogynistic thug with very few redeemable qualities outside of his charm that was Tony Soprano. It's what made Love/Hate so successful here, pretty much the same format - Nidge is pretty much an homage to Tony and portrayed in the exact same way.

Women without Makeup · 12-01-2019 2:59pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

First episode of the Supranos is 20 years old now. I think it still stands up as a great show.

In comparison to the **** there's been since, that wouldn't be too hard.

Ursus Horribilis · 12-01-2019 3:04pm

I see. So there have been no decent TV shows made in the 20 years since?

Women without Makeup · 12-01-2019 3:04pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Plus it was fascinating for people to find themselves actually rooting for the violent, aggressive, misogynistic thug

Yeah it just shows how stupid people are.

I'm not dumb enough to root for a murderer just because he cries when his tomatoes don't grow! Stupid Soprano fans

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 12-01-2019 3:04pm

I'm an idiot who knows nothing.

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

I think you are totally missing the point of the show as well. It shows us that even the most ruthless, horrible people going are still human at the end of the day, often very likeable in fact. Plus we often tend to forget that even the worst people have mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, kids, or whatever, as well as somewhat 'normal' social lives, interests, problems, needs, etc outside of the job.

Everyone in the show had depth. Aside from James Gandolfini, I always think of Bobby, he's a made man and he extorts, blackmails, even murders in the show, but he's quite shy, reserved, doesn't cheat on his wife like the others and is obsessed with model trains.

Plus it was fascinating for people to find themselves actually rooting for the violent, aggressive, misogynistic thug with very few redeemable qualities outside of his charm that was Tony Soprano. It's what made Love/Hate so successful here, pretty much the same format - Nidge is pretty much an homage to Tony and portrayed in the exact same way.

You know, I never really did root for Tony ever. I found the character fascinating of course but my opinion of him remained low throughout. The interest for me was in the show slowly revealing the depths of what a lowlife he was.

PropJoe10 · 12-01-2019 3:05pm

I'm an idiot who knows nothing.

Women without Makeup wrote: »

Yeah it just shows how stupid people are.

I'm not dumb enough to root for a murderer just because he cries when his tomatoes don't grow! Stupid Soprano fans

What a strange and stupid comment. You obviously have totally missed the point of this show, so you should probably go and watch something that you enjoy, rather than something you clearly don't.

Ursus Horribilis · 12-01-2019 3:06pm

I hear Neighbours is better than Home and Away these days

Women without Makeup · 12-01-2019 3:06pm

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Nidge is pretty much an homage to Tony and portrayed in the exact same way.

Another stupid show. I could see it a MILE away that the guards would NOT be the ones to take down Nidge. I could see it a mile away.

A FCUKING MILE AWAY!

Ursus Horribilis · 12-01-2019 3:07pm

Slow Saturday afternoon, is it?

dulux99 · 12-01-2019 3:07pm

At the time it was great. It was before we were blessed with dozens of brilliant series at our fingertips at all times. If someone sits down to watch it now having not watched it at all it probably won't have aged well.

What was the fcuking big deal about the Sopranos?

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