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The war on meat

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    #62
    Unearthly
    Registered Users Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Less meat consumption would be a welcome change


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    #63
    Lady Haywire
    Registered Users Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    gozunda wrote: »
    'Cowspiracy' is little better than rancid vegan propaganda tbh. The figures used to push the agenda of that film were found to be made up by vegan film producers who falsely claimed that animal agricultural contributed some 51 % of all greenhouse gases. Not only was this figure shown to been have made up - it failed to even mention that it is fossil fuels and the transport sectors who are the single biggest contributor to global greenhouse gas emissions. But none of that suits the vegan agenda does it?

    https://newint.org/blog/2016/02/10/cowspiracy-stampeding-in-the-wrong-direction

    I see this 'Beyond Meat' company has also used that Goodland &: Anhang document to post 'facts' about animal based meats on their website :rolleyes:


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    #64
    Jerry Atrick
    Registered Users Posts: 231 ✭✭Jerry Atrick


    Absolute joke...we're being brainwashed by all sides. How is India gettin on environmentally with their no beef policy?
    Ireland is a nanny state and I for one am sick to the teeth being ripped off and told what to do.


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    #65
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Consumerism is the biggest issue effecting the climate. Stuff being bought and fcuked out to dumps or rot, a couple of foreign holidays a year, the newest gadget just because its out. But these things won't be targeted. Farmers are an easy target, big business take over food production then with processed ****e. Dinner today was meat and veg all produced in Ireland, much better ethical and environmentally than avocado and fecking tofu


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    #66
    wakka12
    Registered Users Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Jerry Atrick wrote: »
    Absolute joke...we're being brainwashed by all sides. How is India gettin on environmentally with their no beef policy?
    Ireland is a nanny state and I for one am sick to the teeth being ripped off and told what to do.

    What a silly argument. India would be even worse off if beef consumption was common


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    #67
    Eoinbmw
    Registered Users Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Meat is murder
    Bring on the genocide!


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    #68
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    India has the highest production of any country of milk. It's vast population uses it all.


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    #69
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Flippyfloppy wrote: »
    Does it suit your farmer agenda? Also, does every single one of your posts contain the words ‘vegan agenda’ or ‘vegan propaganda’ ...if not a rolls eyes smiley? Because you sure do go on, and on...any threads on boards about meat or vegans, that’s where you’ll be found!

    May I ask why you always seek me out - but do not contribute to the discussion?

    I'm sorry does the truth hurt? Because that's what the EAT report and those stupid films are -pure rubbish propaganda. Im sorry if you don't like be pointed out. It's funny but a small number of vegans like yourself always seem to turn up variously to attack the poster and not the post. But then that's not new is it?

    Btw the link I provided was written by an decent vegan who pointed out that the figures in Cowspiracy were "a load of manure" (his words)

    Take a read - You might learn something

    https://newint.org/blog/2016/02/10/cowspiracy-stampeding-in-the-wrong-direction


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    #70
    Gael23
    Registered Users Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Butcher Boy wrote: »
    I should get 500 years so.
    10 years for each steak you’ve eaten😄


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    #71
    RMAOK
    Registered Users Posts: 11,199 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    Gael23 wrote: »
    10 years for each steak you’ve eaten😄

    I'd be getting 1000 years inside if that was the case :eek:


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    #72
    Buford T. Justice XIX
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    I can't believe people want to miss out on tweets like this.
    https://twitter.com/StrathroyDairy/status/1085622779301580800?s=19


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    #73
    Unearthly
    Registered Users Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Lady Haywire wrote: »
    I see this 'Beyond Meat' company has also used that Goodland &: Anhang document to post 'facts' about animal based meats on their website :rolleyes:

    When this companies shares goes public, invest in them. Get on the gravy train. Tyson Foods have even seen their potential


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    #74
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    marvin80 wrote: »
    We should probably reduce our consumption of meat but surely there's other areas to concentrate on like the number of cars on the road.

    There's over 2 million cars on the road but it's unlikely the government will recommend thousands of people to get rid of them.

    Funny you should mention cars, you can measure how far you can drive on a years worth of energy to grow a steak.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUiI782vXfAhVcShUIHZ3kC5AQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fscience-environment-46459714&psig=AOvVaw35-CsKYL0jqP4jPoPc1Jrw&ust=1547845234265713


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    #75
    Butcher Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    Gael23 wrote: »
    10 years for each steak you’ve eaten😄

    No but a day for every animal i have slaughtered.


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    #76
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Butcher Boy wrote: »
    No but a day for every animal i have slaughtered.

    Head shot.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #77
    HalloweenJack
    Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    I read the book Eating Animals last year and it really opened my eyes to thinking about where meat comes from.

    I eat a lot less meat now, probably half what I used to eat. I still love the taste, though.


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    #78
    pconn062
    Registered Users Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Less meat consumption would be a welcome change

    It would, but we simply can't have a mature conversation about the enviroment and meat eating in this country. All you'll get is stupid jokes and unthinking comments. We're so far behind other countries when it comes to tackling these issues, it's laughable. People won't even consider reducing their meat consumption slightly, despite the massive effect large scale farming has on the enviroment. Something will have to change though, and most likely it will have to be forced on us.


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    #79
    Flippyfloppy
    Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭Flippyfloppy


    gozunda wrote: »
    Aw I'm sorry dies the truth hurt? Because that's what the EAT report and those stupid films are -pure rubbish propaganda. Im sorry if you don't like be pointed out. It's funny but a small number of vegans like yourself always seem to turn up variously to attack the poster and not the post. But then that's not new is it?

    Btw the link I provided was written by an decent vegan who pointed out that the figures in Cowspiracy were "a load of manure" (his words)

    Take a read - You might learn something

    https://newint.org/blog/2016/02/10/cowspiracy-stampeding-in-the-wrong-direction

    Oh give it a rest, for the last time, I’m not vegan. Many people are disillusioned with mass production of meat, that mostly goes to waste.

    More so, I find your statements about vegans having agendas and spreading propaganda to be an apt description for yourself.

    You are a farmer, and every thread that pops up that you think is going to threaten your likelihood you’re all over like a rash, because you’re the one with the agenda!


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    #80
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    pconn062 wrote: »
    It would, but we simply can't have a mature conversation about the enviroment and meat eating in this country. All you'll get is stupid jokes and unthinking comments. We're so far behind other countries when it comes to tackling these issues, it's laughable. People won't even consider reducing their meat consumption slightly, despite the massive effect large scale farming has on the enviroment. Something will have to change though, and most likely it will have to be forced on us.

    You could always emigrate.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #81
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Unearthly wrote: »
    When this companies shares goes public, invest in them. Get on the gravy train. Tyson Foods have even seen their potential

    I do hope that's meat gravy!

    Seriously though I think you might want to take a look at some of those backing the highly processed junk food called "Beyond Meat"
    Khaled bin Alwaleed is a Saudi Prince from a family of huge personal wealth. Much of it derived from the oil industry.

    Of note the House of Saud is one of the most repressive regimes on the planet. This is a regime that oversees the most “the most profoundly gender-segregated nation on Earth”.

    Prince Khaled bin Alwaleed bin Talal is also the founder and chairman of the lucrative KBW Investments, which focuses on start-ups and established companies in the construction sector. 

    Among the investments and partnerships that KBW ventures is linked to is Beyond Meat, a Los Angeles-headquartered plant-based food manufacturer 

    Khaled said that meat alternatives are the best option from a 'financial perspective' 

    We’ve seen really, really good returns,”

    This is the point where investors step in, having discovered that the “plant-based” lifestyle market generates large profit margins, adding value through the ultra-processing of cheap materials (e.g., protein extracts, starches, and oils).

    Nice!


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    #82
    pconn062
    Registered Users Posts: 5,370 ✭✭✭pconn062


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    You could always emigrate.

    Point proven.


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    #83
    Butcher Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Head shot.

    Ya one shot between the eyes bang bang.


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    #84
    Unearthly
    Registered Users Posts: 7,981 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    gozunda wrote: »
    I do hope that's meat gravy!

    Seriously though I think you might want to take a look at some of those backing the highly processed junk food called "Beyond Meat"



    Nice!

    You've pretty much backed up my point. Serious players with impressive financial wealth such as Bill Gates also involved. They see a big future for it even if the food isn't healthy

    Get on the train Gozunda


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    #85
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Tuco88 wrote: »
    Are they that blind? The problem is not meat consumption. The place is way too over populated.

    Divide by 2.

    If people aren't too picky about which animal the meat comes from we could reduce the population and increase the meat supply simultaneously.


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    #86
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Flippyfloppy wrote: »
    Oh give it a rest, for the last time, I’m not vegan. Many people are disillusioned with mass production of meat, that mostly goes to waste.More so, I find your statements about vegans having agendas and spreading propaganda to be an apt description for yourself. You are a farmer, and every thread that pops up that you think is going to threaten your likelihood you’re all over like a rash, because you’re the one with the agenda!

    Just to remind you - You are commenting on my posts and following me for some bizarre reason. If you don't like something - it's probably best to ignore it.

    Not a vegan? Well that's not what was indicated in your last couple of diatribes in the farming forum etc.

    The fact is what is being pushed has been shown to be 'propaganda' like the false figures used in the film 'Cowspiracy'. If you don't like that tough.

    Why are you always being negative about meat?
    A huge percentage of all types of food in this country 'goes to waste'. How about to getting annoyed about that for a change?

    If you have a viewpoint - have the gahoonies to detail it and try to play the ball not the player. I've added you to the ignore list.

    Please note I don't have a 'likelihood" or whatever lol.


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    #87
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 15,747 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Flippyfloppy wrote: »
    Oh give it a rest, for the last time, I’m not vegan. Many people are disillusioned with mass production of meat, that mostly goes to waste.

    More so, I find your statements about vegans having agendas and spreading propaganda to be an apt description for yourself.

    You are a farmer, and every thread that pops up that you think is going to threaten your likelihood you’re all over like a rash, because you’re the one with the agenda!

    How does it 'mostly go to waste'? Link?


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    #88
    BeerWolf
    Registered Users Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    I ain't changing my diet because people can't curb overbreeding. If anything the world should be encouraging the reduction of the world's population.


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    #89
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Unearthly wrote: »
    You've pretty much backed up my point. Serious players with impressive financial wealth such as Bill Gates also involved. They see a big future for it even if the food isn't healthy Get on the train Gozunda

    So you read about the investor I detailed? The devil rides that train! Ever hear about ethical consumerism? 'Beyond meat' is highly processed junk food. The investors see an opportunity to make money out of the gullible imo ..


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    #90
    jochenstacker
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 390 ✭✭jochenstacker


    Ah, another AH hate wankfest on something "liberal".
    It's like Pavlov now, isn't it?
    Just put traveler, liberal, vegan, refugee or feminist into the thread title and watch the monkeys dance.
    Well, have fun you guys.


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    #91
    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    pconn062 wrote: »
    Point proven.

    Eat more meat and you'll get more irony.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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