Brexit discussion thread VII (Please read OP before posting)

Wesser · 13-03-2019 8:28pm

So they don't want a deal.... and they dont want a no deal.....
So what do they want... ???!!!

Imreoir2 · 13-03-2019 8:28pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Jesus that was a bit close for comfort.

Yes, but the question for that vote was not "should we reject no deal", it was an amendment to the governments motion so it was a question of should we replace the governements no-deal motion with this no-deal motion.

The next vote is should we add whetever nonsence the brexiteers want to the governments motion.

CelticRambler · 13-03-2019 8:28pm

Patser wrote: »

4 votes!!!!! 308 MPs thought no deal was a good idea?!?!?!?

Not quite. This was the vote on the amendment that would take no deal off the table, i.e. delete the part of TM's motion that says no-deal is still the default; the vote on the now-amended motion is yet to come ...

amacca · 13-03-2019 8:28pm

sjb25 wrote: »

That was very close to all our melt down

Surprisingly slim majority in favour of not shooting oneself and ones neighbours in the foot.

robindch · 13-03-2019 8:29pm

devnull wrote: »

Amendment A (Caroline Spelman) Result

This calls for MPs to reject leaving without a deal in any circumstance.

PASSED

In any circumstance, and I believe, rejects leaving without a deal, at any time as opposed to advising TM not to leave without a deal by the end of this month.

They're dancing on the head of a pin, on the edge of a cliff, while high on crack cocaine.

Madness.

prawnsambo · 13-03-2019 8:29pm

Kalyke wrote: »

The Malthouse Compromise, no?

Just with more nuts. A hard brexit with a transition period. This is quite literally a vote for more unicorns. With cherries on top.

devnull · 13-03-2019 8:30pm

Jacob Rees-Mogg says that if parliament vote against No Deal this is not allowed to stand as the law supersedes it and the law says they will leave on the date of exit.

He also stated that Theresa May is not his Prime Minister and is the Queens.

No doubt votes don't count if they don't go his way.

Seems to be arguing that they should not be able taking back control.

CelticRambler · 13-03-2019 8:30pm

JRM trying to spin it that TM's modified motion is nothing to do with the Tories now, so they'll all vote against it! :rolleyes:

j8wk2feszrnpao · 13-03-2019 8:31pm

Wesser wrote: »

So what do they want... ???!!!

Something between the start and end of the British Empire; a return to the days of glory.

briany · 13-03-2019 8:31pm

What do we want to see on this next amendment?

robindch · 13-03-2019 8:31pm

Kalyke wrote: »

Apparently, Ministers voting against the Gov. means automatic resignations.

Government losing HoC votes on major policy issues used to mean resignations, no confidence motions, elections.

Seems that's all history too.

robindch · 13-03-2019 8:32pm

briany wrote: »

What do we want to see on this next amendment?

Sanity restored?

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-03-2019 8:33pm

27 countries have to agree to an extension, right?

devnull · 13-03-2019 8:33pm

Amendment F (Malthouse v2) Result
This instructs the government to extend Article 50 until 22nd May and offer a transitional phase until end of 2021, with no backstop commitment.

REJECTED

Yes - 164
No - 374
Majority - 210

ancapailldorcha · 13-03-2019 8:33pm

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

27 countries have to agree to an extension, right?

Correct. The UK surrendered the upper hand when they triggered A50.

prawnsambo · 13-03-2019 8:33pm

This pretty much describes the meaning of the malthouse vote

164 of them. That's probably about right when you think about it.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-03-2019 8:33pm

robindch wrote: »

Government losing HoC votes on major policy issues used to mean resignations, no confidence motions, elections.

Seems that's all history too.

You can blame the liberals for that. Lib democrats I mean.

CelticRambler · 13-03-2019 8:34pm

briany wrote: »

What do we want to see on this next amendment?

"The noes have it, UNLOCK"

upupup · 13-03-2019 8:34pm

Wesser wrote: »

So they don't want a deal.... and they dont want a no deal.....
So what do they want... ???!!!

They want the respect/fear that they had a few hundred years ago but alas that is gone

Inquitus · 13-03-2019 8:34pm

Unicorns get what they deserve! Malthouse crushed.

ancapailldorcha · 13-03-2019 8:34pm

Amendment has been beaten.

Harry Palmr · 13-03-2019 8:34pm

No shock there really. No one was going to accept it in the EU

Franz Von Peppercorn · 13-03-2019 8:35pm

CelticRambler wrote: »

"The noes have it, UNLOCK"

It’s great theatre, but a farce of a Parliament. These people used to rule a world beating empire.

Inquitus · 13-03-2019 8:35pm

3 line whip on the Spelman 2.0

Akrasia · 13-03-2019 8:37pm

CelticRambler wrote: »

JRM trying to spin it that TM's modified motion is nothing to do with the Tories now, so they'll all vote against it! :rolleyes:

So they'll all vote for a no deal? They were gonna do that anyway

Inquitus · 13-03-2019 8:38pm

Akrasia wrote: »

So they'll all vote for a no deal? They were gonna do that anyway

They might, 3 line Whip, Cabinet resignations required, a very slim majority of 4 last time.

brendanwalsh · 13-03-2019 8:38pm

Why did May want to reject "leaving with no deal'?

Why did they reject an extension to May 22nd?

Very confusing,

13-03-2019 8:39pm

Government whipping against main motion now.

Akrasia · 13-03-2019 8:39pm

Inquitus wrote: »

They might, 3 line Whip, Cabinet resignations required, a very slim majority of 4 last time.

May said it was a free vote for her motion today. The Spellman amendment was whipped but it passed.

devnull · 13-03-2019 8:40pm

Next Vote (Overall Motion)
MPs are now voting on the government's motion, which has been amended to include ruling out no-deal completely.

Brexit discussion thread VII (Please read OP before posting)

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