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Incident at Roscommon hotel (asylum seekers)

  • 12-02-2019 12:29am
    #1
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭


    Breaking on twitter. Guards have building and surrounding area sealed off as crime scene. Fire brigade there too but no fire. Googled the hotel because its disused, but its home to a load of asylum seekers.

    Any news?


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  • #2
    kenmc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,276 ✭✭✭kenmc


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/fire-strikes-rooskey-asylum-seeker-hotel-for-second-time-in-a-month-37806931.html

    That's a fierce unlucky place by the sound of it. Asylum seekers would be taking their lives into their hands moving in there...


  • #3
    Harry Palmr
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    The insurance angle might be worth looking at.


  • #4
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    The gallon of petrol was just resting in my account.


  • #5
    elperello
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    It's a shame really.
    It was a lovely hotel.
    The food was good and a beautiful location on the Shannon.


  • #6
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    elperello wrote: »
    It's a shame really.
    It was a lovely hotel.
    The food was good and a beautiful location on the Shannon.

    Did they do a carvery?


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  • #7
    Ultimate Seduction
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    The insurance angle might be worth looking at.

    Or maybe locals don't want 80 odd asylum seekers in there village so are trying to burn the hotel Down to stop it?


  • #8
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,190 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Dakotabigone wrote: »
    Did they do a carvery?

    Yes, flame grilled a house specialty :)


  • #9
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,163 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    The US could drop a few MOABs on Roscommon and it'd be no loss to the country.


  • #10
    Noveight
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    Pretty shítty carry-on from those responsible. Can’t see past the end of their own nose.


  • #11
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    I visited Roscommon once


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  • #12
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Or maybe locals don't want 80 odd asylum seekers in there village so are trying to burn the hotel Down to stop it?
    Whatever their views, which they are entitled to, setting fire to a building is utterly scummy. The explanation is not an excuse. The emergency services, which probably have to bring reinforcements on board from a larger town, are tied up by it - hopefully there isn't another such serious incident occurring at the same time. There are residences and businesses nearby, smoke damage, scorched ground, high financial costs. Defending your town by setting fire to a building is a hell of a twisting of logic.


  • #13
    [Deleted User]
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Or maybe locals don't want 80 odd asylum seekers in there village so are trying to burn the hotel Down to stop it?

    What reason do they have for not wanting asylum seekers?


  • #14
    Mrsmum
    Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Mrsmum


    Dakotabigone wrote: »
    I visited Roscommon once

    Isn't Rooskey in Leitrim.


  • #15
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,190 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Mrsmum wrote: »
    Isn't Rooskey in Leitrim.

    The hotel is in Leitrim but the bigger part of the town/village is in Roscommon.
    The Shannon is the boundary.


  • #16
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    bubblypop wrote: »
    What reason do they have for not wanting asylum seekers?
    Would it not make more sense for asylum seekers to be housed in Dublin or Cork or Galway, where there are more resources, rather than a tiny economic blackspot in the middle of nowhere?


  • #17
    Robert Wolfe
    Site Banned Posts: 79 ✭✭Robert Wolfe


    bubblypop wrote: »
    What reason do they have for not wanting asylum seekers?

    Crime. Look at Sweden and Germany. Majority of rapists in Sweden are migrants. That's why no one wants these asylum ***** in their town.


  • #18
    Dakotabigone
    Site Banned Posts: 512 ✭✭✭Dakotabigone


    Robert Wolfe wrote: »
    Crime. Look at Sweden and Germany. Majority of rapists in Sweden are migrants. That's why no one wants these asylum ***** in their town.

    We can’t be saying that on the internet.


  • #19
    Berserker
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    What reason do they have for not wanting asylum seekers?

    Bog standard racism is my guess.


  • #20
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Robert Wolfe wrote: »
    Crime. Look at Sweden and Germany. Majority of rapists in Sweden are migrants. That's why no one wants these asylum ***** in their town.
    Asylum seekers often aren't the same as migrants though - I don't know that there would be a high level of crime from them but I can certainly understand the concerns over cultural barriers and the lack of facilities, lack of English classes, lack of jobs, and just the fact that these are small communities that are stretched enough as it is.


  • #21
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Berserker wrote: »
    Bog standard racism is my guess.
    More nuanced than that.


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  • #22
    Mad_maxx
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    Adaline Ancient Headboard wrote: »
    Would it not make more sense for asylum seekers to be housed in Dublin or Cork or Galway, where there are more resources, rather than a tiny economic blackspot in the middle of nowhere?

    Indeed, connacht folk hate everyone from as far away as the next parish, never mind Syria


  • #23
    Robert Wolfe
    Site Banned Posts: 79 ✭✭Robert Wolfe


    Adaline Ancient Headboard wrote: »
    Asylum seekers often aren't the same as migrants though - I don't know that there would be a high level of crime from them but I can certainly understand the concerns over cultural barriers and the lack of facilities, lack of English classes, lack of jobs, and just the fact that these are small communities that are stretched enough as it is.

    In Freiburg in Germany a bunch of Syrians gang raped an 18 year old girl outside a nightclub. Dragged her into the bushes and raped her. And then the quisling scumfuk German politicians announce a few days later they still won't deport Syrians, no matter what crimes they commit.

    Being an asylum seeker does not automatically make you a good person.


  • #24
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Robert Wolfe wrote: »
    Being an asylum seeker does not automatically make you a good person.
    Indeed not, but some folk with young kids are fleeing genuine horror. Women and children who face the same fate as that poor German girl, and terrorised men too - I would like it if this country could help some of them out. But I am not dismissing your concern either. It's a quandary.


  • #25
    Robert Wolfe
    Site Banned Posts: 79 ✭✭Robert Wolfe


    Adaline Ancient Headboard wrote: »
    Indeed not, but some folk with young kids are fleeing genuine horror. Women and children who face the same fate as that poor German girl, and terrorised men too - I would like it if this country could help some of them out. But I am not dismissing your concern either. It's a quandary.

    I get you but look, RTE news had a piece recently on some camp in Greece. We were told the women in camp dare not use the bathrooms at night, they wear nappies. So there's some serious scum in that camp. How do you keep that out?

    It's one thing to welcome in women and children and families, but more likely we're getting young men from God knows where.


  • #26
    Mrsmum
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    I think the elephant in the room we're not supposed to speak about for fear of being labelled racist is that men from those countries where asylum seekers/migrants come from just have very poor attitudes regarding western women. To all women probably but they can dominate their own women, The sight of the freedoms women in this part of the world have, I think, can be an affront to these men.


  • #27
    The Satanist
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    Ahhh the internet; where we dare not speak about migrants but have already convicted "the locals" of arson.


  • #28
    Robert Wolfe
    Site Banned Posts: 79 ✭✭Robert Wolfe


    Mrsmum wrote: »
    I think the elephant in the room we're not supposed to speak about for fear of being labelled racist is that men from those countries where asylum seekers/migrants come from just have very poor attitudes regarding western women. To all women probably but they can dominate their own women, The sight of the freedoms women in this part of the world have, I think, can be an affront to these men.

    If anyone ever calls you a racist for raising that concern, just ask them how many German women were attacked on NYE.

    At least 1200 according to the German police.


  • #29
    GinAndBitter
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    Robert Wolfe wrote: »
    If anyone ever calls you a racist for raising that concern, just ask them how many German women were attacked on NYE.

    At least 1200 according to the German police.

    I also seen they have "safe zones" now at large events in Germany to protect women from sex attacks.


  • #30
    Mrsmum
    Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Mrsmum


    I always remember a documentary I saw about a girl in India who was gang raped and destroyed by about six guys. I think it was quite a big global news story. Anyway the news crew were interviewing the men that did the crime for the programme and their absolute and total attitude to her was that because she was out on her own, she clearly wasn't a good, reputable girl and so why wouldn't they rape her kind of thing. I would fear that attitude would be common among the men getting asylum here.


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  • #31
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,320 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Mrsmum wrote: »
    I think the elephant in the room we're not supposed to speak about for fear of being labelled racist is that men from those countries where asylum seekers/migrants come from just have very poor attitudes regarding western women. To all women probably but they can dominate their own women, The sight of the freedoms women in this part of the world have, I think, can be an affront to these men.

    You mean the elephant in the room that people are always talking about here? Or to be more accurate spend most of their time talking about how they can't talk about it here?


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