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Kia Niro EV

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  • #122
    Claude Burgundy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭Claude Burgundy


    Now that you can reigster interest for information re the Kona i was hoping Kia would have done the same with the Niro.

    Size wise i like the Niro and the Kona should be around the same price as Hyundai are slighly above Kia but the Niro is bigger so might even out.

    A big selling point for both would be the warranty.


  • #123
    0lddog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    FWIW, I asked a KIA rep at the recent SEAI exhib in the RDS about the Niro.

    He was doubtful that the EV version would be offered here :eek:, just the PHEV.


  • #124
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    0lddog wrote: »
    FWIW, I asked a KIA rep at the recent SEAI exhib in the RDS about the Niro.

    He was doubtful that the EV version would be offered here :eek:, just the PHEV.

    Any reason why it wouldn't?

    Seeing as Hyundai are selling electric cars here?

    Doesn't really make sense....apart from the fact they can sell you the PHEV now and he/she probably didn't know till you asked that Kia would release a BEV version of the Niro :p


  • #125
    0lddog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Any reason why it wouldn't?

    Seeing as Hyundai are selling electric cars here?

    Doesn't really make sense....apart from the fact they can sell you the PHEV now and he/she probably didn't know till you asked that Kia would release a BEV version of the Niro :p

    He was only a rep.

    Your postulation that he didnt know about the BEV version 'till I asked my very well be correct.

    I took a very dim view of the encounter :(


  • #126
    denismc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭denismc


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Any reason why it wouldn't?

    Seeing as Hyundai are selling electric cars here?

    Doesn't really make sense....apart from the fact they can sell you the PHEV now and he/she probably didn't know till you asked that Kia would release a BEV version of the Niro :p

    I think Kia are set to make only 18000 units of the Niro for 2019 so it could be a case of supply and demand, those 18k units are going to get gobbled up very quick.


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  • #127
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    denismc wrote: »
    I think Kia are set to make only 18000 units of the Niro for 2019 so it could be a case of supply and demand, those 18k units are going to get gobbled up very quick.

    The only number I seen was 40,000 between the Kona and Niro in 2019....

    The kona bev will be in Ireland....why wouldn’t Niro?

    I would say as usual the sales person hadn’t a clue....done 5 min research on the PHEV and that was it.....


  • #128
    thelikelylad
    Registered Users Posts: 369 ✭✭thelikelylad


    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2019-kia-niro-ev-revealed-in-south-korea-125438.html#
    http://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2018&no=282340

    Out in South Korea in July. Two battery options same as the Kona - 39kWh (240km) and 64kWh (380km).


    64kWh Niro achieves 26km less range than the Kona according to what look like South Korean test cycle figures. Not bad given it's a bigger car.


  • #129
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    thelikelylad wrote: »
    https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2019-kia-niro-ev-revealed-in-south-korea-125438.html#
    http://pulsenews.co.kr/view.php?year=2018&no=282340

    Out in South Korea in July. Two battery options same as the Kona - 39kWh (240km) and 64kWh (380km).


    64kWh Niro achieves 26km less range than the Kona according to what look like South Korean test cycle figures. Not bad for given it's a bigger car.

    It would be interesting to see when the Kona is been released in Korea and that might give a view of when the Niro will hit these shores


  • #130
    vienne86
    Registered Users Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    I sat into a Niro PHEV today - very nice car. And the boot space doesn't seem to be very compromised by the battery. But of course there is no spare wheel - not even a space saver one. I suppose this is inevitable with a PHEV. I've never had a car without a spare wheel of some sort as I don't like the sound of these tyre repair kits.......am I the only one who would be concerned about noth having a spare wheel?


  • #131
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    vienne86 wrote: »
    I sat into a Niro PHEV today - very nice car.l?

    Spec is nice, but the drivetrain is slow. Any suddenly demand for power ends up with massive delay as the ice fires up and gearbox shullfes gears.

    It is well priced, that's for sure...

    Don't worry about the wheel. Just get a space saver and carry it around in the boot...


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  • #132
    vienne86
    Registered Users Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    grogi wrote: »
    Spec is nice, but the drivetrain is slow. Any suddenly demand for power ends up with massive delay as the ice fires up and gearbox shullfes gears.

    It is well priced, that's for sure...

    Don't worry about the wheel. Just get a space saver and carry it around in the boot...

    OK - didn't drive one yet, but slow drivetrain wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. Carrying even a mini spare wheel around in the boot, along with the charging cables....:eek:


  • #133
    denismc
    Registered Users Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭denismc


    vienne86 wrote: »
    But of course there is no spare wheel - not even a space saver one. I suppose this is inevitable with a PHEV. I've never had a car without a spare wheel of some sort as I don't like the sound of these tyre repair kits.......am I the only one who would be concerned about noth having a spare wheel?

    When is the last time you have had a puncture?
    I have my current car eight years and I think I have had one puncture.
    Lugging around a spare wheel does seem a waste of space to me.


  • #134
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,693 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Not only that, denismc, but pretty much every single fully comprehensive insurance policy now comes with free recovery service. Get a flat, ring the number and they'll take you and your car home or to a tyre place. I'd rather have the granny cable in the boot rather than a spare tyre in case of emergencies :D


  • #135
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    vienne86 wrote: »
    I sat into a Niro PHEV today - very nice car. And the boot space doesn't seem to be very compromised by the battery. But of course there is no spare wheel - not even a space saver one. I suppose this is inevitable with a PHEV. I've never had a car without a spare wheel of some sort as I don't like the sound of these tyre repair kits.......am I the only one who would be concerned about noth having a spare wheel?

    2 cars, no spares....

    Last 2 cars didn't have a spare either....

    Spares are so 80's :P


  • #136
    vienne86
    Registered Users Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    Thanks for the replies guys. You can guess what age bracket I'm in! I've had two punctures in my current Kia Carens. First one I called the Kia pickup (which was Allianz) and the second time I changed it myself.....very awkward spare wheel position in the Carens. I'm in the AA now.....so yeah, I might just have to get over myself!


  • #137
    tk123
    Registered Users Posts: 14,016 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Kia Assist is AA so you’ll be grand! I’m tempted by the EV since they put chargers in where I work. With my short commute I wouldn’t need a charger at home. I have the hybrid Niro just over a year and love it.


  • #138
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    tk123 wrote: »
    Kia Assist is AA so you’ll be grand! I’m tempted by the EV since they put chargers in where I work. With my short commute I wouldn’t need a charger at home. I have the hybrid Niro just over a year and love it.

    Plug in or normal hybrid?


  • #139
    tk123
    Registered Users Posts: 14,016 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Plug in or normal hybrid?

    The normal one.


  • #140
    vienne86
    Registered Users Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭vienne86


    tk123 wrote: »
    Kia Assist is AA so you’ll be grand! I’m tempted by the EV since they put chargers in where I work. With my short commute I wouldn’t need a charger at home. I have the hybrid Niro just over a year and love it.

    The Niro is just the make and shape of car that would suit me, so your satisfaction is good to hear. I just fancy the plug in idea and I could easily have a charger in my car port.


  • #141
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    tk123 wrote: »
    The normal one.

    How do you find the fuel consumption?

    I was talking to a friend....he mentioned that a neighbour bought and wasn't impressed with the fuel consumption.....it was second hand and he had no details....


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  • #142
    ewj1978
    Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    Must call in KIA tomorrow and sit in one. Didn't know the NIRO was available yet.


  • #143
    tk123
    Registered Users Posts: 14,016 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    How do you find the fuel consumption?

    I was talking to a friend....he mentioned that a neighbour bought and wasn't impressed with the fuel consumption.....it was second hand and he had no details....

    How long is a piece of string lol. Some days I get home and it could be 3.9 other days it could be in the 4's or 5's and that's driving in stop start dublin traffic. It really depends on the traffic and how you drive - the steadier the pace the better. The one thing I had to get used to is that it's always in Eco mode by default (in my old hyundai Eco was optional and after a few omg moments i never used Eco again).. If you've driven an auto with eco mode you'd know what I mean - you could be at a junction and put the foot down and the car has to 'econmically' get up to speed and gear by the book ... which could leave you crawling across a roundabout or rolling back etc so I tend to shift it into sports mode in certain places. If you're taking it for a test drive put the foot down and definitely compare eco and sports mode.

    I'm always cold so I love the heated steering wheel :pac:.. which i thought was a gimmick until I had it lol!


  • #144
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    ewj1978 wrote: »
    Must call in KIA tomorrow and sit in one. Didn't know the NIRO was available yet.

    Niro is around, but Hybrid does not make sense. PHEV version is better equipped, nicer interior, has ~50km electric range and costs exactly the same... EV is not here yet.


  • #145
    ewj1978
    Registered Users Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭ewj1978


    Much the same as in the Kona thread, its more to size it up and see how it feels.

    No idea's on EV prices?


  • #146
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    ewj1978 wrote: »
    Much the same as in the Kona thread, its more to size it up and see how it feels.

    No idea's on EV prices?

    If the Kona is 30 and 35 k then expect the Niro to be similar


  • #147
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    So I was on the doss today and just "happened" to be passing a Kia garage with the Misses in the car :p

    As we had some time to kill I asked if she might want to have a quick look at the Niro.

    They have hybrid and PHEV on display. Sat into the PHEV and the spec/seats etc was very impressive. More importantly the Misses sat into it and loved it. Set up how we would have seats and then check rear leg room and huge plus.

    The leather seats felt really nice if I compare to a Toyota Rav4. The boot space was ok...at best...

    I was still looking around and next thing she was over with salesman asking about when she could buy the full electric :p

    It was Ford/Kia garage so the guy was from the Ford side and had no idea. What was interesting was he knew about electric and said the Kia sales guy had gone on electric car training recently:D sounds like Kia might be serious about these electric cars

    Depending on the price I might be onto a winner to replace the eGolf.

    We did sit into the Stonic, I got a resounding no so will see when Kona comes out but it might not be a runner.


  • #148
    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    So I was on the doss today and just "happened" to be passing a Kia garage with the Misses in the car :p

    As we had some time to kill I asked if she might want to have a quick look at the Niro.

    They have hybrid and PHEV on display. Sat into the PHEV and the spec/seats etc was very impressive. More importantly the Misses sat into it and loved it. Set up how we would have seats and then check rear leg room and huge plus.

    Niro is spacious enough. I could sit behind myself without touching anything with my knees. And I am 195cm with long (hairy) legs - which was a biggest stop in my supermodel career (hence cannot drive the Leaf).

    We'll see - but with Model3 slipping away, long range Niro EV looks like an very good option.


  • #149
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,693 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    If the Kona is 30 and 35 k then expect the Niro to be similar

    Surely plus at least 2 grand for both? It's a full step up in size.


  • #150
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    unkel wrote: »
    Surely plus at least 2 grand for both? It's a full step up in size.

    Hyundai is seen as a more premium brand to Kia....like the Sportage was cheaper to ic35/Tucson......Sorento to Santa fei

    Maybe wishful thinking but hopefully the Kia will be priced lower so when the Hyundai Niro version comes out it can into the higher price bracket.....


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  • #151
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,693 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Hyundai is seen as a more premium brand to Kia....


    Aye and like the 7 year warranty on Kia and still slightly lower prices than Hyundai. I'm with you there. If the cars were seen as similar level, than the Niro would be at least €4k more than the Kona

    A bit less of a difference than that surely because it's a Kia, but I doubt they will be about the same price!


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