Administrative Officers 2018 in the Civil Service

November Golf · 21-09-2018 10:21am #1

Administrative Officer 2018 in the Civil Service - Nationwide

The Administrative Officer (AO) is the main graduate recruitment grade for the Civil Service and provides successful candidates with the opportunity to progress to middle management. As an AO, you would have a crucial role in policy and strategy formulation across the spectrum of economic, financial, international, environmental and social issues.

On this occasion the Civil Service is recruiting people who possess particular qualifications, skills and competencies in the following areas:

1. Human Resources
2. Business/Finance
3. Industrial and Employee Relations
4. General

Please see information booklet for eligibility requirements and how to apply.

Closing Date: 3pm on Thursday 11th October 2018

https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/index.php?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&Itemid=263&cid=99158

Aisling(",) · 21-09-2018 11:40am

Application is a grand one. Only your qualifications and work experience!
Still have to have competancies for the interview handy not to have to agonise over the examples before you've even sat the psychometric tests.

tgdaly · 21-09-2018 12:58pm

Just submitted my application. Good luck to all. Another long process ahead!

Piglet85 · 21-09-2018 1:24pm

Interesting. I was successful in this a couple of times but turned down both positions as they were Dublin based. I think on both of those occasions the information booklet had stated that the majority of the jobs would be in Dublin. I don't think there's any mention of that this time (unless I missed it). Makes me wonder if there's a chance that the regional opportunities are increasing, even slightly....

tgdaly · 21-09-2018 1:27pm

Piglet85 wrote: »

Interesting. I was successful in this a couple of times but turned down both positions as they were Dublin based. I think on both of those occasions the information booklet had stated that the majority of the jobs would be in Dublin. I don't think there's any mention of that this time (unless I missed it). Makes me wonder if there's a chance that the regional opportunities are increasing, even slightly....

Was wondering myself, maybe you get to choose locations this time? Some competitions allow for that

duffman13 · 21-09-2018 1:31pm

Is the salary for an AO not over 40k? 31k starting salary according to that booklet?

The_Conductor · 21-09-2018 1:47pm

duffman13 wrote: »

Is the salary for an AO not over 40k? 31k starting salary according to that booklet?

Link to the Salary Scales here

First point on the scale is EUR31,221

stevetalk · 21-09-2018 1:57pm

Just submitted the application but not sure I put in the right email. Have ye received confirmation emails since submitting the application?

duffman13 · 21-09-2018 2:00pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

Link to the Salary Scales here

First point on the scale is EUR31,221

Cheers, was looking at the higher scale previously. Thanks

uck51js9zml2yt · 21-09-2018 2:29pm

Submitted mine before lunch

tgdaly · 21-09-2018 2:37pm

stevetalk wrote: »

Just submitted the application but not sure I put in the right email. Have ye received confirmation emails since submitting the application?

Yeah I got a confirmation email

Ravelleman · 21-09-2018 2:49pm

Interesting development with the stream options this year.

The_Conductor wrote: »

Link to the Salary Scales here

First point on the scale is EUR31,221

The pay will be €31,848 by the time people are appointed, as indicated in the booklet.

November Golf · 21-09-2018 2:51pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

Link to the Salary Scales here

First point on the scale is EUR31,221

Its been update since:

Personal Pension Contribution

PPC (Personal Pension Contribution) salary for this position, with effect from 1st October 2018, is as follows:

€31,848; €34,250; €34,935; €37,942; €41,791; €44,719; €47,650; €50,590; €53,521; €56,441 (NMAX); €58,466 (LSI1); €60,486 (LSI2)

Addle · 21-09-2018 7:06pm

Big jump in salary scale in increments there.
When I joined the CS, EO was considered graduate recruitment.
Very different set up now.
Don't even need third level education to be an AP on open competition.

The_Conductor · 21-09-2018 7:25pm

Addle wrote: »

Big jump in salary scale in increments there.
When I joined the CS, EO was considered graduate recruitment.
Very different set up now.
Don't even need third level education to be an AP on open competition.

EO is defacto graduate recruitment- and EO and AOs are handled by the same section in PAS. You may not officially need a degree to become an EO- however, show me a recent recruit at this grade who doesn't have one.

Addle · 21-09-2018 7:35pm

Well they're so common now, it's hard to find anyone < 40/45 who doesn't have a degree.

The_Conductor · 21-09-2018 7:57pm

Addle wrote: »

Well they're so common now, it's hard to find anyone < 40/45 who doesn't have a degree.

Which is probably why they specify a level 8 qualification for AO- rather than a 'degree'........... Still- no great shortage of EOs with Level 8 qualifications either.

Crunchymomma · 21-09-2018 9:03pm

The_Conductor wrote: »

EO is defacto graduate recruitment- and EO and AOs are handled by the same section in PAS. You may not officially need a degree to become an EO- however, show me a recent recruit at this grade who doesn't have one.

I'm a recent eo recruit without a degree and I highly doubt I'm that rare

Some Random Username · 21-09-2018 10:45pm

Has there always been four different streams to choose from or is this a new way of streamlining? I'm trying to figure out if certain streams might only be for certain locations (or at least more likely to be placed there). I imagine General is probably the most widespread.

I noticed there's an IGEES Economist panel again right now as well. That specifically says Dublin rather than nationwide though.

uck51js9zml2yt · 21-09-2018 11:03pm

Some Random Username wrote: »

Has there always been four different streams to choose from or is this a new way of streamlining? I'm trying to figure out if certain streams might only be for certain locations (or at least more likely to be placed there). I imagine General is probably the most widespread.

I noticed there's an IGEES Economist panel again right now as well. That specifically says Dublin rather than nationwide though.

The specialist streams need a degree in the particular area

Joe222 · 22-09-2018 10:37pm

Hi

Re: the application form, where it looks for supplementary info, what are you meant to put in there?

Does it relate to the appendix 1 competencies and you have to say how you have experience of them or what do you put in here?

Thank you

November Golf · 22-09-2018 11:06pm

Joe222 wrote: »

Hi

Re: the application form, where it looks for supplementary info, what are you meant to put in there?

Does it relate to the appendix 1 competencies and you have to say how you have experience of them or what do you put in here?

Thank you

Yes, But don't write a novel just one or two short points on each competency will do - If and when you get to interview, you will have the opportunity to expand on your points and to give real life examples.

Heart Break Kid · 23-09-2018 3:32pm

duffman13 wrote: »

Is the salary for an AO not over 40k? 31k starting salary according to that booklet?

In Dublin City Council, i think it is, different ways they use AOs vs civil service.

lotusm · 23-09-2018 10:42pm

Is there a specific email address you can send in a query regarding counties where AO positions are likely. I am only interested in Mayo or Sligo.

cmac8 · 24-09-2018 10:31am

Hi

For Eligibility Requirements do you just type in again your qualification that comes under the specific category or have people wrote a couple of paragraphys on how these qualifications fit the role?

November Golf · 24-09-2018 4:32pm

cmac8 wrote: »

Hi

For Eligibility Requirements do you just type in again your qualification that comes under the specific category or have people wrote a couple of paragraphys on how these qualifications fit the role?

Specific category/categories your applying for; degree title and level; if you have a specific subject that is relevant to the category (ie: for business they ask about business, economics or accountancy as a major subject); also if you have any of the desirables stated in the booklet (ie: membership of a professional bodies or relevant work experience)

LordBasil · 25-09-2018 12:33pm

Have applied for this. Going for just the General Stream as my qualification is not in any of the others. Hopefully the 4 streams mean there will be more positions available.

In Section B, I gave a brief outline of some of my experience that meet competency requirements as well as confirming that I hold a Level 8 Degree.

Joe222 · 25-09-2018 12:38pm

LordBasil wrote: »

Have applied for this. Going for just the General Stream as my qualification is not in any of the others. Hopefully the 4 streams mean there will be more positions available.

In Section B, I gave a brief outline of some of my experience that meet competency requirements as well as confirming that I hold a Level 8 Degree.

I am the same as yourself.
I am not sure yet what to put in for the supplementary section. Is an interviewer going to want to see 20/30 bullet points matching competencies or just a quick easy to read paragraph on your achievements/experience to date.

LordBasil · 25-09-2018 12:44pm

Joe222 wrote: »

I am the same as yourself.
I am not sure yet what to put in for the supplementary section. Is an interviewer going to want to see 20/30 bullet points matching competencies or just a quick easy to read paragraph on your achievements/experience to date.

I just wrote a couple of paragraphs about my experience/skills, so if I get to the interview stage, the interviewers will have something to ask me about so I will then be able to expand on. It is probably best not to worry too much about it at this stage.

engiweirdo · 26-09-2018 10:03pm

Have applied for this, I wonder if anyone could help with a couple of questions/queries I have;

I know most jobs will be Dublin based but I dont really fancy living on beans on toast/sleeping in a doorway so what would the prospects of any of these roles being in Waterford be?

Also has anyone here either gotten the role or know of anyone who has taken the role with an engineering degree?

Thanks.

bmcb · 26-09-2018 11:12pm

Like a previous poster I’m only interested in mayo galway roscommon! I wonder is applying for these a waste of time if only interested in those areas. Can anyone shed any light? Thanks

Administrative Officers 2018 in the Civil Service

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