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Bose Quiet Comfort 35 headphones
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I stand by my assessment that the backbeat pro 2 deliver most of the benefits of the qc35 at a much reduced price.
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Here are some reviews for you:
http://www.soundguys.com/plantronics-backbeat-pro-2-review-10468/These are active noise cancelling headphones, but don’t expect to get much noise cancelling out of them. Where other headphones cut out low hums from trains pretty much entirely, the Backbeat Pro 2 more like cut it in half. It was significantly less obtrusive to the listening experience, but it was still there.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/plantronics-backbeat-pro-2-reviewHowever, if you can afford an extra £100 then the Bose QuietComfort 35 are a superior option. They offer radically improved ANC and noticeably better sound quality, albeit with slightly shorter battery life.
Sounds like many other "cheap" ANC headphones I've used in the past. They don't do much real ANC and aren't really all the effective on airplanes. A few db drop, but not enough to make a real difference.
I do understand, Bose are extremely expensive. But once you've tried them for real, you'll never go back. I was so happy to pick up a pair of QC20's for just £150. But now that I've experienced them, I know that if I lost and broke them in the morning, I'd run out and replace them full price.
Let me tell you a horrible real world experience. Just two weeks ago, I flew for 2 hours, followed by 6 hour wait in an airport, followed by 11 hour flight with my better half and my 13 month old baby! :eek:
I slept through most of the 11 hour leg, when I woke up near the end of the flight, I said to my better half, wow, our baby slept through it all too. You should of seen the dirty look she gave me! No she hadn't, she had woken up multiple times, I just hadn't heard because of my headphones and had slept through it all!
Really amazing, before getting my Bose, I could never fly on a plane. Now I can't even hear my own baby next too me!
The Backbeats aren't that much cheaper, they are still a pretty expensive headphone, £229! That is more expensive then the QC25's and only €20 less then this deal on the QC35's, while not coming close to being as good according to multiple reviews.
I know, most people go through this process. Man those Bose can't be worth that, they really can't be all that better, I'll just get these cheaper ones, I'm sure they will be good enough. I did that, tried multiple pairs of different "cheap" ANC headphones and in-ear isolation phones (Etymotics) and the truth is they were all a waste of money in the end, I should have just skipped them all and went straight to the Bose, it would have been cheaper overall.0 -
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Let me tell you a horrible real world experience. Just two weeks ago, I flew for 2 hours, followed by 6 hour wait in an airport, followed by 11 hour flight with my better half and my 13 month old baby! :eek:
I slept through most of the 11 hour leg, when I woke up near the end of the flight, I said to my better half, wow, our baby slept through it all too. You should of seen the dirty look she gave me! No she hadn't, she had woken up multiple times, I just hadn't heard because of my headphones and had slept through it all!
Really amazing, before getting my Bose, I could never fly on a plane. Now I can't even hear my own baby next too me!
The Backbeats aren't that much cheaper, they are still a pretty expensive headphone, £229! That is more expensive then the QC25's and only €20 less then this deal on the QC35's, while not coming close to being as good according to multiple reviews.
I know, most people go through this process. Man those Bose can't be worth that, they really can't be all that better, I'll just get these cheaper ones, I'm sure they will be good enough. I did that, tried multiple pairs of different "cheap" ANC headphones and in-ear isolation phones (Etymotics) and the truth is they were all a waste of money in the end, I should have just skipped them all and went straight to the Bose, it would have been cheaper overall.
If you weren't pulling those Bose from your anus after that story, I reckon you should hang on to that lady of yours.0 -
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Here are some reviews for you:
http://www.soundguys.com/plantronics-backbeat-pro-2-review-10468/
http://www.trustedreviews.com/plantronics-backbeat-pro-2-review
Sounds like many other "cheap" ANC headphones I've used in the past. They don't do much real ANC and aren't really all the effective on airplanes. A few db drop, but not enough to make a real difference.
I do understand, Bose are extremely expensive. But once you've tried them for real, you'll never go back. I was so happy to pick up a pair of QC20's for just £150. But now that I've experienced them, I know that if I lost and broke them in the morning, I'd run out and replace them full price.
Let me tell you a horrible real world experience. Just two weeks ago, I flew for 2 hours, followed by 6 hour wait in an airport, followed by 11 hour flight with my better half and my 13 month old baby! :eek:
I slept through most of the 11 hour leg, when I woke up near the end of the flight, I said to my better half, wow, our baby slept through it all too. You should of seen the dirty look she gave me! No she hadn't, she had woken up multiple times, I just hadn't heard because of my headphones and had slept through it all!
Really amazing, before getting my Bose, I could never fly on a plane. Now I can't even hear my own baby next too me!
The Backbeats aren't that much cheaper, they are still a pretty expensive headphone, £229! That is more expensive then the QC25's and only €20 less then this deal on the QC35's, while not coming close to being as good according to multiple reviews.
I know, most people go through this process. Man those Bose can't be worth that, they really can't be all that better, I'll just get these cheaper ones, I'm sure they will be good enough. I did that, tried multiple pairs of different "cheap" ANC headphones and in-ear isolation phones (Etymotics) and the truth is they were all a waste of money in the end, I should have just skipped them all and went straight to the Bose, it would have been cheaper overall.
I didn't deny that the Bose are the best. They probably are.
You can cherry pick reviews all you like but there are also multiple reviews stating that the backbeats are very close to the Bose. You are also not mentioning that the reviews you linked are giving them 8 and 9 out of 10.
https://www.cnet.com/products/plantronics-backbeat-pro-2/review/
If you can get the qc 35 for 20 quid more then yes go for them. My point was at rrp the Bose are approx 350 euro and the back beats 199 dollars.
I did mention that you should pick the back beats up in the states for 199 dollars which is what I did.
I can never sleep on planes and wearing the backbeats on my last transatlantic flight I was able to grab a couple of hours. They make a huge difference, not a couple of decibles like you describe. Its almost silent.
I won't comment on your parenting/husband skills.0 -
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I'm surprised you're still alive to tell that taleThey don't block out elbows not sure how you weren't woken up.If you weren't pulling those Bose from your anus after that story, I reckon you should hang on to that lady of yours.Whatever about replacing the heaphones if you lose them you'll never find another woman like that in this day and age, you have a keeper there.
I know right, I know I'm a very lucky man She even doesn't mind me spending money on geek tech toys as she likes them herself 
Only problem is that she expects me to buy her a nice pair of Bose ANC headphones now before the next trip! Smart lady 
Just on the subject - I dawdled over buying a pair of QC20s a few years ago, wondering whether it was really worth paying that much for noise cancellation. I get the bus or train most days, and they have completely changed that ordeal into an experience I almost look forward to. They don't block all noises, particularly not conversations, but they allow me to listen to the radio or an audiobook as if I'm in my own little oasis of quiet. I often use them in the office with noise cancellation turned on and nothing playing through them.
On planes the effect is dramatic in terms of noise cancellation, it's only when you turn them off you realise how much noise there is. If I lost my earphones in the morning, I'd have no hesitation spending the money to get another pair.
Yes, exactly my own experience. I use to hate the long distance flights I'd have to take, down right painful. While I won't say they are "fun" now or that I look forward to them, it has made them so much easier it is unbelievable.
The best travel upgrade you can get. IMO better then upgrading to premium economy or business class * (1st class obviously a different story).
* Actually many airlines now supply these Bose headphones in Business class, so you would benefit from them, though that would be just for one flight, versus buying your own and using them for the next 10 years worth of flights.
And yup, it is really on a plane where these shine. You really can't properly test these out in an office or shop, you just can't recreate (thankfully) the constant 85db's noise of a plane. You really only notice how loud the plane really is when you take them off to go to the toilets, etc. It is then that I've often found myself winching in pain, there is such a different and the aircraft is so loud.The QC20s are great because they are in-ear, and over-ear would be too cumbersome to carry. If I could wear over-ears, the QC35s are what I would go for, or the QC25s if there was a really good offer. I would avoid the QC30s for now, the reviews of the noise cancellation say they are not as good as the QC20s. The QC20s are available for around 250 these days and are well worth considering.
Yup the QC20's have a number of distinct advantages. They actually have a few db more sound reduction then the over ear models. They are obviously much more portable. They are easier to sleep in and if you wear glasses they are much better *
* The over ear ones can cause glasses to sit uncomfortably on your ears and nose and the glasses also cause the ear piece not have a tight fit, which reduces it's ability to reduce noise by at least a few decibels!
However I also know that some people don't really like in ear headphones and prefer the over ear type.
BTW One expensive tip that I've heard on some other frequent flyers forums, is that some people use two pairs of Bose earphones! An in-ear one like the QC20, with ANC on and the music/movie through that and then a second pair of the over-ear ones like the QC25 or QC35 on top of that, with their ANC also turned on. Seemingly this creates almost complete silence, even from people talking on airplanes.0 -
And yup, it is really on a plane where these shine. You really can't properly test these out in an office or shop, you just can't recreate (thankfully) the constant 85db's noise of a plane. You really only notice how loud the plane really is when you take them off to go to the toilets, etc. It is then that I've often found myself winching in pain, there is such a different and the aircraft is so loud.
To be fair they shine in lots of places not just on a plane!
Got my pair from Amazon.it on Monday and have been very impressed with the noise cancellation (had only ever tested the 25s in a shop ages ago and thought they were very good then). I work at home and in an office and find a big difference when wearing them - everything is much quieter even before you put on any music. Glasses wearer here too.
Was a bit wary paying that much (even if they were 100 off) but delighted I got them now. 0 -
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