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Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

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  • #92
    jooksavage
    Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭jooksavage


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    And the irony of it all is that the $12B in supports that Trump has announced to protect farmers from the impact of the Tariff War he started will be funded by.....Money borrowed from China!!!


    It's projected that US national debt will be 100% of the GDP by 2030 and will be over 150% of the GDP by 2050. These figures are going to balloon if Trump has to start throwing money at other industries that make up his base: auto, timber, take your pick. Trump is going to drive the US economy into the ground like an AC casino.


  • #93
    spacecoyote
    Registered Users Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Penn wrote: »
    Okay, it's looking like the Trump Admin may not have intentionally edited out the question to Putin.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/25/no-the-white-house-didnt-intentionally-edit-a-question-to-putin-out-of-a-video/?utm_term=.a1a8d531d707


    Transcript and video seems to have been based on a different feed which didn't pick up the question that was asked, so it may have been unintentional.

    Yes, but the difference is that WAPO republished the full transcript once they realised that the original transcript was missing portions of text.

    If the White House does the same, then I'd give them a pass on it, if they don't then it would look like intentionally allowing misrepresentations to stand


  • #94
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,472 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Penn wrote: »
    Okay, it's looking like the Trump Admin may not have intentionally edited out the question to Putin.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/25/no-the-white-house-didnt-intentionally-edit-a-question-to-putin-out-of-a-video/?utm_term=.a1a8d531d707


    Transcript and video seems to have been based on a different feed which didn't pick up the question that was asked, so it may have been unintentional.

    Hold on, the WH missed a question during the Press Conference because an earpiece didn't work?

    They didn't actually have someone there taking notes?


  • #95
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,427 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So within the last 48 hours or thereabouts Donald Trump/ the white house have done the following: (correct me if wrong btw)

    1. Sounded like George Orwell when describing who and what to believe.
    2. Has tweeted that he is tough on russia and that it russia will help the Democrats in the midterms.
    3. Had the president's lawyer Rudolph Giuliani try to say that the President was saying Cheque not cash on audio of Trump in where it's clearly Trump speaking.
    4. Have altered the video/transcript of his mess in Helsinki.
    5. Will no longer release the readouts of phone calls that the president has with foreign leaders.


  • #96
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,205 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    So within the last 48 hours or thereabouts Donald Trump/ the white house have done the following: (correct me if wrong btw)

    1. Sounded like George Orwell when describing who and what to believe.
    2. Has tweeted that he is tough on russia and that it russia will help the Democrats in the midterms.
    3. Had the president's lawyer Rudolph Giuliani try to say that the President was saying Cheque not cash on audio of Trump in where it's clearly Trump speaking.
    4. Have altered the video/transcript of his mess in Helsinki.
    5. Will no longer release the readouts of phone calls that the president has with foreign leaders.

    In fairness, it's still a quieter week for him than last week.


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  • #97
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Penn wrote: »
    In fairness, it's still a quieter week for him than last week.
    The Putin meeting seems like an age ago. Madness really.


  • #98
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Penn wrote: »
    Okay, it's looking like the Trump Admin may not have intentionally edited out the question to Putin.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/07/25/no-the-white-house-didnt-intentionally-edit-a-question-to-putin-out-of-a-video/?utm_term=.a1a8d531d707


    Transcript and video seems to have been based on a different feed which didn't pick up the question that was asked, so it may have been unintentional.


    It was a question broadcast continuously across news stations around the world. It was one of the primary focal points of the entire summit. To say someone mistakenly left out the most important question without realising doesn't hold much water. Unless perhaps Trump picked them for the job and they are extremely incompetent.


  • #99
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,205 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    It was a question broadcast continuously across news stations around the world. It was one of the primary focal points of the entire summit. To say someone mistakenly left out the most important question without realising doesn't hold much water. Unless perhaps Trump picked them for the job and they are extremely incompetent.

    In fairness, Washington Post missed it too, and they likely just had someone transcribing from a video. It was a long enough press conference in two languages and I think it's possible that half a question could be missed.

    Just saying, sometimes with a sufficient explanation (again, as the same happened the Washington Post with the exact same question), it's reasonable to give the benefit of the doubt.

    However, the onus is on the White House to correct the transcript at this point. No excuse now.


  • #100
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Inquitus wrote: »
    I don't think Barnier is going to take much **** off of Trump when he meets him shortly, the EU has a bigger economy and we can go toe to toe with the US if we have to, as Phil Hogan said today, we should face him down on this trade spat and not give an inch.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/eu-should-bully-trump-back-on-trade-policies-says-hogan-1.3573733
    Economy maybe bigger but take the Americans out of the EU and we are up **** Creek.


  • #101
    VonZan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭VonZan


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Economy maybe bigger but take the Americans out of the EU and we are up **** Creek.

    That's generally true for almost all nations in terms of their economy and dependence on investment from the US both directly and indirectly. However, Trump doesn't seem to realise that running these surpluses has advantages, both politically and economically, and while he may have some valid points his solutions will have to come in the form of state intervention in free trade which is largely what Trump is standing against.

    The fact remains that he's playing a long game of chess that he won't be around to finish. He can't take on everyone and pretend he's won. The EU won't accept a trade deal that rips up their food and environmental legislation and that's exactly what Trump wants. It wouldn't surprise me if Trump's angst stems from his golf club ventures in Europe and the 'red tape' he had to deal with when he didn't get his own way.


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  • #102
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    First lady Melania Trump will watch "any channel she wants," according to her spokeswoman in an apparent rebuke to the report President Donald Trump was upset to find her Air Force One television tuned into CNN.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/melania-trump-channel/index.html

    I have to say I'm surprised there hasn't been a bit more from the First Lady considering the infidelity accusations coming out and the general behaviour of POTUS. I think it is a real possibility we will see a White House divorce.


  • #103
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Economy maybe bigger but take the Americans out of the EU and we are up **** Creek.

    The idea that Trump is some sort of financial genius in a world where he has repeatedly failed businesses beggars belief.


  • #104
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,427 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The putin meeting in the autumn is now off according to NSA John Bolton until "the mueller witch hunt is over."


  • #105
    UsedToWait
    Registered Users Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭UsedToWait


    Sen. Bob Corker (R) Foreign Relations Committee Chair, with a scathing opening address at the Pompeo hearing - tune in if you can!


  • #106
    spacecoyote
    Registered Users Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Economy maybe bigger but take the Americans out of the EU and we are up **** Creek.

    It works both ways, take Europe out of America and they're up the same creek.

    The only difference is he's also potentially alienating other large economies whereas the EU are taking the opportunity to build links.

    That's the problem with Trumps plan, there can't be any winners, as practically every economist & expert has been saying it.


  • #107
    UsedToWait
    Registered Users Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭UsedToWait


    UsedToWait wrote: »
    Sen. Bob Corker (R) Foreign Relations Committee Chair, with a scathing opening address at the Pompeo hearing - tune in if you can!

    Pompeo trotting out the White House line on Russia and North Korea.
    Incredible.


  • #108
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,427 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    It's not a hard question mr Secretary of State. Did the president talk to you about what was said in his meeting with putin ?


  • #109
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,427 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Ah the GOP love fest starts. It seems like bob corker will be an outlier for the GOP during this hearing.


  • #110
    UsedToWait
    Registered Users Posts: 2,273 ✭✭✭UsedToWait


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Ah the GOP love fest starts. It seems like bob corker will be an outlier for the GOP during this hearing.

    Turned into a snooze fest.
    Thought it might have been incendiary, given the opening statement.


  • #111
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭[Deleted User]


    everlast75 wrote: »
    The idea that Trump is some sort of financial genius in a world where he has repeatedly failed businesses beggars belief.

    It always surprises me that people seem to forget he bankrupted a casino. A casino ffs.


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  • #112
    spacecoyote
    Registered Users Posts: 8,432 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-07-25/gm-cuts-profit-forecast-as-surging-metals-prices-boosts-costs?__twitter_impression=true

    And another big US company looks to be feeling trade war pains


  • #113
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    spacecoyote wrote: »
    https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-07-25/gm-cuts-profit-forecast-as-surging-metals-prices-boosts-costs?__twitter_impression=true

    And another big US company looks to be feeling trade war pains

    I wonder how soon we'll be hearing about "Government Motors" from the WH and its Fox toadies. It'd be a conundrum for Trump should his admin try to help after the Obama administration helped after 2008.


  • #114
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users Posts: 7,423 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    The putin meeting in the autumn is now off according to NSA John Bolton until "the mueller witch hunt is over."
    Saw that, pushed back until "sometime" next year. One of the more sensible decisions they have made recently. Would have been madness to have Putin in the White house a month before Mid-terms.


  • #115
    26000 Elephants
    Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It always surprises me that people seem to forget he bankrupted a casino. A casino ffs.

    *2* of them!!

    He bankrupted one by running at a loss to 'compete' with the other. Of course, he was so successful in that strategy, he bankrupted the other one as well due to the fall in business.


  • #116
    Pussyhands
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It always surprises me that people seem to forget he bankrupted a casino. A casino ffs.

    Going bankrupt has its advantages 😉


  • #117
    dr.fuzzenstein
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    spacecoyote wrote: »
    It works both ways, take Europe out of America and they're up the same creek.

    The only difference is he's also potentially alienating other large economies whereas the EU are taking the opportunity to build links.

    That's the problem with Trumps plan, there can't be any winners, as practically every economist & expert has been saying it.

    Trump doesn't believe in hammering out deals that benefit both parties.
    His aim is to screw you for as much as he can to get the biggest slice possible and then stiff you if he can.

    In the news, Trump and Junkers have come to an agreement.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Trump in a few days or weeks will start complaining about that too and start it all again.
    Because he can't be trusted

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2018/jul/25/trump-juncker-trade-talks-tariffs-cars-business-live


  • #118
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Going bankrupt has its advantages 😉

    The USA had better hope so...


  • #119
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    How is it not clear to everyone at this stage he has no grand plan? All the crooks internationally are benefitting from his presidency.the likes of israel and saudi arabia how been emboldend to do as they please.his trade wars plans have imploded and the likes of the E.U have picked away with targeted tarrifs like piranahs. What a joke.the biggest losers have been the poor and ordinary decent americans.


  • #120
    Hurrache
    Registered Users Posts: 10,146 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    The White House continue with the Orwellian theme by banning a reporter who asked questions they didn't like

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/07/25/media/white-house-kaitlan-collins-press-pool/index.html

    https://twitter.com/whca/status/1022248274034655233?s=19


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  • #121
    BabyCheeses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    The supposed concessions are a bit confusing. Soy beans have dropped in price in the US while increasing elsewhere causing the EU to look there for its supply already. Is this just another NATO like deal where they already have an agreeement but Trump thinks it was him?


    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-27/trade-spat-to-turn-u-s-into-top-soybean-supplier-to-eu-market


    I guess we'll see what the talking points are in the next day or two. I'm sure they'll ignore when China said the same thing.


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