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Celtic Cup

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    #92
    Heymans
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    Clegg wrote: »
    That Leinster A side is one that would do a good job in the Pro 14. Leinster's strength in depth is a huge credit to the schools who developed them and the province/IRFU for identifying their talent and developing them further.

    Question on Max Deegan though. I think he's more than good enough to play for Leinster's senior side, but is behind a lot of quality players. He's been playing at blindside a lot this season so obviously Leo and Lancaster rate him highly if they're trying to fit him into the team. But should he look elsewhere for more regular first team appearance? I think.hes quality and don't want to lose him.


    I doubt he will. Michael's players that grew up watching Leinster and play for them presently have a sense of enittlement to play for their province. The only notable exclusion to that would be Cian Kelleher and it was a different sense of entitlement that led him away to Connacht - he thought he should have been getting more game time at Leinster!

    I think with Deegan lacks some of the core skills required of a top class backrow forward, namely, carrying over the gainline, good at clearing rucks (he strikes me as a ruckinspector hanging out on the wing a lot of the time) and tackling stats. I welcome being proven wrong but I think he is lacking in some areas to push for inclusion in the Leinster firsts over the coming seasons.


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    #93
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Jesus. Is there anything more toxic than schools-rugby-fanboyism?


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    #94
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Former Former wrote: »
    Jesus. Is there anything more toxic than schools-rugby-fanboyism?

    Toxic? Sure there are.

    Creepy/weird? Probably not.


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    #95
    Heymans
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    Call it what you will but I think he's already behind SOB, Conan and Doris at 8. The coaches seem to be looking for a way to play him and give him experience but I think there are some gaping holes in his game.


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    #96
    Squidgy Black
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    I mean, shouldn't all players be fighting and looking for as much game time as possible? A player who's content playing A rugby or sitting on the bench doesn't exactly scream someone with the drive or motivation to be at the top of their game.


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    #97
    Heymans
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    I mean, shouldn't all players be fighting and looking for as much game time as possible? A player who's content playing A rugby or sitting on the bench doesn't exactly scream someone with the drive or motivation to be at the top of their game.

    That’s different to a sense of entitlement. His work rate and the effort he puts in across 80 mins of each game doesn’t strike me as someone who is fighting for their place on the team. Barring that turnover he won in the last play of the game last season the effort he puts in across the 80 isn’t up to the stats of the other incumbents.


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    #98
    BlueAndWh1te
    Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭BlueAndWh1te


    Munster A for Tomorrow:
    Stephen Fitzgerald; Liam Coombes, Shane Daly, Alex McHenry, Alex Wootton; Bill Johnston (C), Charlie O’Doherty; Josh Wycherley, Diarmuid Barron, Jeremy Loughman; Fineen Wycherley, Darren O’Shea; Sean O’Connor, Gavin Coombes, Dave O’Callaghan.

    Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, Cronan Gleeson, Keynan Knox, Paddy Kelly, Dan Walsh, Evan Maher, Tyler Bleyendaal, Sean French.


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    #99
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Connacht Ulster in Sportsground on Sunday.
    winner of Munster Leinster will go to the final against Scarlets(most likely)


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    #100
    The Lost Sheep
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    Leinster 5-0 up. Dave Kearney try in 1st minute


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    #101
    Clegg
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    15-11 to Leinster A at half time


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    #102
    Clegg
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    27-18 Leinster A


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    #103
    Clegg
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    Leinster A win 46-25.


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    #104
    RockBoysarewii
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    How did Sean French play?


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    #105
    Heymans
    Registered Users Posts: 579 ✭✭✭Heymans


    RockBoysarewii wrote: »
    How did Sean French play?

    Very average. Didn’t get much ball out on the wing. Can’t see what all the fuss is


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    #106
    RockBoysarewii
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    From what little I’ve seen seems to be very good going forward.


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    #107
    The Lost Sheep
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    Heymans wrote: »
    Very average. Didn’t get much ball out on the wing. Can’t see what all the fuss is
    If he didnt get much ball and didnt have much to do how can you say is very average?


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    #108
    Heymans
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    If he didnt get much ball and didnt have much to do how can you say is very average?

    From what I saw of him I thought he was run of the mill. Looks speedy but didn’t have great handling skills.


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    #109
    Bridge93
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    Bit unfair to be calling a guy who just turned 19 run of the mill in his first senior season


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    #110
    Heymans
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    It’s just that there’s a load of hype around him. I was probably looking with a critical eye


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    #111
    The Lost Sheep
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    Heymans wrote: »
    It’s just that there’s a load of hype around him. I was probably looking with a critical eye
    There is a lot of hype about all too many players but saying run of the mill about a kid is extremaly harsh


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    #112
    realhorrorshow
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    There is a lot of hype about all too many players but saying run of the mill about a kid is extremaly harsh

    Does Penny have 7 tries in the last 3 Celtic Cup games?


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    #113
    Heymans
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    Penny scored 2 off driving mauls and if I was asked was the pick of the players on both teams. Has quick line speed and gets involved in as many rucks as possible. Both teams didn’t really look interested in defending hence the high score line.

    On French - he got bumped by Dave Kearney the one time he was called into defence


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    #114
    Bridge93
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    49-12 win for ulster away in Galway


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    #115
    realhorrorshow
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    Awful Celtic Cup campaign for Connacht. Team today had an u19 in second row, a patchwork backrow and three props, three halfbacks, and a centre on the bench.


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    #116
    kingofthekong
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kingofthekong


    Was the venue for the final decided before the cup? or how was that agreed upon?


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    #117
    The Lost Sheep
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    kingofthekong wrote: »
    Was the venue for the final decided before the cup? or how was that agreed upon?
    wasn't decided before hand from anything I've found about the tournament.


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    #118
    kingofthekong
    Registered Users Posts: 1,248 ✭✭✭kingofthekong


    Leinster will feel hard done by if they lose the final having beaten everybody relatively comfortably just to have to play the final in the opposing teams homeground


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    #119
    The Lost Sheep
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    Leinster win final 15-8


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