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NEW 2018 Assistant Principal Officer Competition

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  • #32
    milhous
    Registered Users Posts: 415 ✭✭milhous


    Crunchymomma wrote: »
    Yes there is three streams to choose from on the online form and you just tick which ones you want to apply for

    Sorr about the questions, but is there less competition or a different format? What's the benefits of going for the interdepartmentL?


  • #33
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users Posts: 7,198 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    The interdependantal route.

    In other words... The loser route

    You’re actually going for promotion after all your giving out about it???!!!

    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    Does anyone think that if you are being recruited for a good job like that from a panel which is never ending, and now hiring those who are the bottom there is something wrong.

    Interdepartmental AP is surely a farcical situation
    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    Honest question. How do you feel about taking a job ahead of someone who is far better suited to that job and the only reason you are getting it is because of the inadequate way PAS and the civil service hire?

    No, it isn't sour grapes by the way. I am speaking on behalf of those better qualified on internal promotion lists or open panels who are blocked by such persons.
    ThumbTaxed wrote: »

    There is no comparison and that is why promotion on interdepartmental is basically the dogs dinner of promotions and a nuisance to the country.

    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    Also remember you can promoted easily enough on civil service by lying on your application and faking it.


  • #34
    1100010110
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭1100010110


    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    The interdependantal route.

    In other words... The loser route

    1. Excuse yourself.
    2. Explain yourself.
    3. What is the interdependantal route?
    4. AP level is removed from operational, discuss.
    5. Have you heard about modernisation?


  • #35
    prettyboy81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    I'll put one in for this. Plenty of questions to be answered on the app form. Will have some content from the Senior Executive Officer application form.


  • #36
    Skip13
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Skip13


    Yep, it's a long form all right, but I suppose its senior management. Best of Luck all.


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  • #37
    never_mind
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Skip13 wrote: »
    Yep, it's a long form all right, but I suppose its senior management. Best of Luck all.

    Do you wonder if they actually read them?


  • #38
    CBCB
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭CBCB


    never_mind wrote: »
    Do you wonder if they actually read them?

    Yes, they will but not until after the online assessments. That's how they will shortlist


  • #39
    never_mind
    Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    CBCB wrote: »
    Yes, they will but not until after the online assessments. That's how they will shortlist

    Mine are fine as answers but they each only have maybe 150-200 words in each block. Trying to be concise!


  • #40
    relax carry on
    Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Anyone know of anywhere I can find a list of of civil service offices per county to help with choosing locations?


  • #41
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    relax carry on wrote: »
    Anyone know of anywhere I can find a list of of civil service offices per county to help with choosing locations?

    Try the mobility section on peoplepoints website.


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  • #42
    relax carry on
    Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Addle wrote: »
    Try the mobility section on peoplepoints website.

    Brilliant. Thank you.


  • #43
    Addle
    Registered Users Posts: 4,812 ✭✭✭Addle


    I'd appreciate if someone will let me know the closing date for applications.
    TIA


  • #44
    coloneldecker
    Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭coloneldecker


    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    The interdependantal route.

    In other words... The loser route

    Excellent, another fine contribution, you were missed from the 2016 thread after you stopped leaving your pearls of wisdom there, welcome back :rolleyes:


  • #45
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Addle wrote: »
    I'd appreciate if someone will let me know the closing date for applications.
    TIA

    6 sept


  • #46
    quad_red
    Registered Users Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭quad_red


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Gonna give it a go myself. I'll chance AO if it comes aswell but not mad on the thoughts of a pay cut. How did you find the transition?

    There's been some adjustment. The 'on boarding' process and induction was non existent (30 min powerpoint and that's it).

    But really enjoying the work and the people. And to see that gold harp on my business card... I know I sound like a sap but I was proud.

    I just hope it leaves me better prepared for the AP comp this time round!


  • #47
    annamosullivan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36 ✭annamosullivan


    Hello, are there any good books/websites out there to help us prepare for the aptitude tests/e-trays, etc for this role? Thanks


  • #48
    ThumbTaxed
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭ThumbTaxed


    bobbysands81 wrote: »
    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    The interdependantal route.

    In other words... The loser route

    You’re actually going for promotion after all your giving out about it???!!!

    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    Does anyone think that if you are being recruited for a good job like that from a panel which is never ending, and now hiring those who are the bottom there is something wrong.

    Interdepartmental AP is surely a farcical situation
    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    Honest question. How do you feel about taking a job ahead of someone who is far better suited to that job and the only reason you are getting it is because of the inadequate way PAS and the civil service hire?

    No, it isn't sour grapes by the way. I am speaking on behalf of those better qualified on internal promotion lists or open panels who are blocked by such persons.
    ThumbTaxed wrote: »

    There is no comparison and that is why promotion on interdepartmental is basically the dogs dinner of promotions and a nuisance to the country.

    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    Also remember you can promoted easily enough on civil service by lying on your application and faking it.

    Sorry to disappoint but I am beyond that level


  • #49
    ThumbTaxed
    Registered Users Posts: 377 ✭✭ThumbTaxed


    1100010110 wrote: »
    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    The interdependantal route.

    In other words... The loser route

    1. Excuse yourself.
    2. Explain yourself.
    3. What is the interdependantal route?
    4. AP level is removed from operational, discuss.
    5. Have you heard about modernisation?

    I think those who pick up on typos on a forum as a stick to best another with is basically lacking wit. Good luck with the job, you'll probably come 999th and get promotion anyway and be a hindrance to your employer.


  • #50
    1100010110
    Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭1100010110


    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    I think those who pick up on typos on a forum as a stick to best another with is basically lacking wit. Good luck with the job, you'll probably come 999th and get promotion anyway and be a hindrance to your employer.

    You make me smile thumbtaxed


  • #51
    relax carry on
    Registered Users Posts: 4,071 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    Sorry to disappoint but I am beyond that level

    God I sincerely hope not or that's just another nail in coffin for my faith in humanity.


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  • #52
    tea and coffee
    Registered Users Posts: 1,823 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    relax carry on wrote: »
    God I sincerely hope not or that's just another nail in coffin for my faith in humanity.

    He means retired. Or maybe beyond the grave....


  • #53
    bobbysands81
    Registered Users Posts: 7,198 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    ThumbTaxed wrote: »
    Sorry to disappoint but I am beyond that level

    That response makes absolutely no sense.


  • #54
    Skip13
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Skip13


    never_mind wrote: »
    Do you wonder if they actually read them?

    They do read them to ensure you have the basic qualifications and indication of basic requirements. Before the online tests


  • #55
    Skip13
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Skip13


    annamosullivan wrote: »
    Hello, are there any good books/websites out there to help us prepare for the aptitude tests/e-trays, etc for this role? Thanks

    I suggest SHL Website


  • #56
    Skip13
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Skip13


    A question for you all (sorry I'm a bit thick) in the Q! in the addition questions what does "Specific your number of direct reports". Is it who you were reporting to (level) or the number of stakeholders etc ....


  • #57
    Ravelleman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Skip13 wrote: »
    They do read them to ensure you have the basic qualifications and indication of basic requirements. Before the online tests

    Yes, in some internal competitions they use the 'Additional Questions' section as a filter before selecting people for competency-based interviews.

    The shortlisting process described in the booklet seems to be some combination of test scores and experience.


  • #58
    Ravelleman
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,635 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ravelleman


    Skip13 wrote: »
    A question for you all (sorry I'm a bit thick) in the Q! in the addition questions what does "Specific your number of direct reports". Is it who you were reporting to (level) or the number of stakeholders etc ....

    It is the number of people reporting to you, if any.


  • #59
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,885 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Skip13 wrote: »
    A question for you all (sorry I'm a bit thick) in the Q! in the addition questions what does "Specific your number of direct reports". Is it who you were reporting to (level) or the number of stakeholders etc ....

    how many people reported to you


  • #60
    Skip13
    Registered Users Posts: 86 ✭✭Skip13


    Ravelleman wrote: »
    It is the number of people reporting to you, if any.

    Thanks :)


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  • #61
    llcolj
    Registered Users Posts: 31 ✭llcolj


    never_mind wrote: »
    Do you wonder if they actually read them?

    The interview is based around the 4 competencies on the form, so the interview panel at least will read them. You can if you wish pick new examples on the day but it is more hassle.


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