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Virgin Media - analogue TV service reduction and switch off

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    #332
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,478 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    gandalfio wrote: »
    Does she need to get an aerial fitted to the roof now to supply the full amount of saorview channels to multiple rooms? Are Virgin within their rights to reduce the number of channels supplied to her via cable?

    An aerial is always required in conjunction with a Saorview receiver.

    And yes Virgin are within their rights to switchoff the analogue channels, an alternative digital service is available from them via the same cable. Back in 2016 they switched off their MMDS TV service with no other alternative service offered to their subscribers.


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    #333
    gandalfio
    Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭gandalfio


    The Cush wrote: »
    An aerial is always required in conjunction with a Saorview receiver.

    And yes Virgin are within their rights to switchoff the analogue channels, an alternative digital service is available from them via the same cable. Back in 2016 they switched off their MMDS TV service with no other alternative service offered to their subscribers.

    Is the alternative digital service free like Saorview?


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    #334
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,618 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Its not free. They are not required to provide free multiroom, indeed they used to charge for analogue multiroom if aware of it.


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    #335
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,478 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    gandalfio wrote: »
    Is the alternative digital service free like Saorview?

    No, but officially the analogue channels aren't either, they were a subscription service. At the end of Dec they still had around 4,500 paying analogue only subscribers. Other availed of them for free because it came on the same cable as their digital TV or broadband package or because the connection to a house was never disconnected once the subscription ended.


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    #336
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 33,867 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If you want free digital TV there is Saorview on UHF aerial for Irish channels, and Freesat / Free to Air satellite channels (BBC, ITV, Ch4, Ch5, and many others) available to anyone in Ireland who can erect a satellite dish.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #337
    gandalfio
    Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭gandalfio


    I wouldn't expect any subscription service for free. Its just frustrating to not be able to receive Saorview through the old upc cable when the house doesn't have an aerial as a result of never needing one in the first place.


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    #338
    The Cush
    Registered Users Posts: 15,478 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    gandalfio wrote: »
    I wouldn't expect any subscription service for free. Its just frustrating to not be able to receive Saorview through the old upc cable when the house doesn't have an aerial as a result of never needing one in the first place.

    It's a private commercial cable network and they charge a fee to access services carried.


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    #339
    coylemj
    Registered Users Posts: 25,326 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    gandalfio wrote: »
    Its just frustrating to not be able to receive Saorview through the old upc cable when the house doesn't have an aerial as a result of never needing one in the first place.

    It sounds like you're suggesting that Virgin Media have a moral obligation to stick an aerial at the other end of your cable, now that they have switched off the analog signal.

    You need to face the fact that the reason the house doesn't have an aerial is because back in the day, it would have given you just one TV channel - Telefis Eireann. Cable TV was a no-brainer in comparison, especially if there was kids in the house.


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    #340
    gandalfio
    Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭gandalfio


    coylemj wrote: »
    It sounds like you're suggesting that Virgin Media have a moral obligation to stick an aerial at the other end of your cable, now that they have switched off the analog signal'

    That's not the case at all


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    #341
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Ah FFS I just found a UPC box in the landlords shed, plugged the coax cable coming out of the wall in my room that I was getting the 7-8 analogue channels out of into it not expecting anything but it fecking worked! RTE, BBC, C4, Sky, Dave, Challenge, Bloomberg, Discovery etc, SCART connection only but crystal clear, 1000X better than what I had, I could have been using that for the last 3 years!


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    #342
    rubadub
    Registered Users Posts: 32,373 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Thargor wrote: »
    Ah FFS I just found a UPC box in the landlords shed,
    Do you know what model this is? Not just the brand (e.g. Pace) but a label should have a model number underneath.


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    #343
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    I'm heading home for the weekend, I'll check on Sunday, it's old enough though, no HDMI and UPC branding.


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    #344
    Siberian Husky
    Registered Users Posts: 22 ✭Siberian Husky


    The Cush wrote: »
    An aerial is always required in conjunction with a Saorview receiver.

    Where I live you can pick it up on a piece of string.


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    #345
    Thargor
    Registered Users Posts: 17,865 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Thargor wrote: »
    Ah FFS I just found a UPC box in the landlords shed, plugged the coax cable coming out of the wall in my room that I was getting the 7-8 analogue channels out of into it not expecting anything but it fecking worked! RTE, BBC, C4, Sky, Dave, Challenge, Bloomberg, Discovery etc, SCART connection only but crystal clear, 1000X better than what I had, I could have been using that for the last 3 years!
    This box seems to have stopped working today, seems to be stuck on this screen after a hard reboot:

    https://i.imgur.com/I3vNCVv.jpg

    Sorry for massive pic, it just says the set-up is now being finalised this can take a few minutes but its been there for an hour now. Still recieving EPG data though, Im in Bray, was today the switch-off date for Bray does anyone know? ?Would that have affected this digital box? Its definitely a digital box aswell, it has a DVR etc, Thomson DV1622UPC.


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    #346
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Thargor wrote: »
    This box seems to have stopped working today, seems to be stuck on this screen after a hard reboot:

    https://i.imgur.com/I3vNCVv.jpg

    Sorry for massive pic, it just says the set-up is now being finalised this can take a few minutes but its been there for an hour now. Still recieving EPG data though, Im in Bray, was today the switch-off date for Bray does anyone know? ?Would that have affected this digital box? Its definitely a digital box aswell, it has a DVR etc, Thomson DV1622UPC.

    Analogue switch-off has nothing to do with this box, it is a digital receiver.

    Likely what happened is that it was still active when it was originally disconnected, once you plugged it back in it was only a matter of time before it picked up a current subscriber list and the viewing card got blocked.


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    #347
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Analogue switch off in Dublin 14 on August 6th - as well as the 9 channels remaining will be gone, there will be no more old style Aertel service ;-)


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    #348
    Drifter50
    Registered Users Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Drifter50


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    Analogue switch off in Dublin 14 on August 6th - as well as the 9 channels remaining will be gone, there will be no more old style Aertel service ;-)

    Does this mean you need a box at every old TVpoint


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    #349
    coylemj
    Registered Users Posts: 25,326 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Drifter50 wrote: »
    Does this mean you need a box at every old TV point

    Yes, a small digital box which they call 'multiroom'. Last time I checked, it cost €11 p.m. With the analog signal stopped and without a digital box, the VM signal is unusable.


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    #350
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    coylemj wrote: »
    Yes, a small digital box which they call 'multiroom'. Last time I checked, it cost €11 p.m. With the analog signal stopped and without a digital box, the VM signal is unusable.

    Virgin say the radio stations will continue to work after the switch off. i presume by still using the box??
    https://www.virginmedia.ie/switchoff/


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    #351
    Delta2113
    Registered Users Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭Delta2113


    No radio is still analogue -you don't need a box.


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    #352
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Delta2113 wrote: »
    No radio is still analogue -you don't need a box.

    so without the box, how do you connect to listen and get a radio channel listing etc..


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    #353
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    so without the box, how do you connect to listen and get a radio channel listing etc..

    You should have a tv/fm splitter at the entry point of the VM cable.

    If you have a high end FM radio it should have a connection for an external aerial, this can be connected by coax to the VM splitter.

    Radios without a port can just be bodged by connecting the core wire of the VM coaxial cable to the radio's aerial.

    The service is RTE and some irish commercial stations as well as BBC R1-5, world service, ulster and a few others.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056130462


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    #354
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I have that FM / TV (UPC) splitter, but I only use the TV one and I presumed I would be able to continue using it with the box, when the tv channels are gone?? I want to use the existing radio channel guide/EPG on my tv screen


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    #355
    Vic_08
    Registered Users Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    ford fiesta wrote: »
    I have that FM / TV (UPC) splitter, but I only use the TV one and I presumed I would be able to continue using it with the box, when the tv channels are gone?? I want to use the existing radio channel guide/EPG on my tv screen

    I don't understand what you are looking for here. Digital TV and radio are available with subscription through the various types of boxes and remain unaltered by the analogue TV shutdown.

    analogue radio on FM is remaining and requires a regular FM receiver to tune in, apart from being delivered by cable rather than transmission masts it is identical to any other FM broadcast.


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    #356
    ford fiesta
    Registered Users Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    I am talking about my existing UPC box, that i still use for getting the list of radio stations and being able to listen to them through my TV. I press the "Radio" button on my UPC box. ...and a list of radio stations appear....maybe 25 of them...I dont have a TV subscription i.e.: the box is only useful for me receiving radio stations (through the TV splitter, never used FM)...TV Channels will remain (until 6th August) but I just go up and down the separate TV remote to navigate through these 9 Channels.

    Maybe you didn't realise that radio stations on an old UPC box (and remote), can still be received without any subscription?

    Btw, I won't be getting a subscription to Virgin (or any other provider) when analogue tv is switched off.

    I wish to continue listening to the radio using the "Radio" button on my UPC box/remote.


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    #357
    Radio Gold
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭Radio Gold


    Virgim Media Analogue being switched off this Tuesday (6th Aug.) here in Killiney.


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    #358
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Radio Gold wrote: »
    Virgim Media Analogue being switched off this Tuesday (6th Aug.) here in Killiney.

    Anyone know what areas still need to be switched off?


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    #359
    baldbear
    Registered Users Posts: 5,503 ✭✭✭baldbear


    Mine went today in Baldoyle. Freaked out . No fair city. :)
    Time to get it sorted now with a combi box.


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    #360
    evosteo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭evosteo


    Gone in dublin 13 :(


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