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Rugby>6n 2019 Scotland Vs Ireland build up thread
troyzer 20:02 05-02-2019
Please don't mention he-who-must-not-be-named.

Hard to know which way this one is going to go. Scotland are at least as badly injured as Ireland and completely fell apart in the last quarter against Italy.

Will Ireland be on the warpath after a stinging loss or will they be wounded and playing with a lack of confidence?

As of this post, PP have Ireland at -7. That's really good value on +7 for Scotland in my book.
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Zzippy 20:55 05-02-2019 (23 Thanks)
Zebo. Right, that's that out of the way. No one is to mention him in this thread. Zero tolerance policy remains in place.
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troyzer 20:56 05-02-2019
Originally Posted by Zzippy:
Zebo. Right, that's that out of the way. No one is to mention him in this thread. Zero tolerance policy remains in place.
Hear hear!
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swiwi_ 21:03 05-02-2019 (3 Thanks)
Questions for Schmidt I would have.

Is Best really the option? it's a big step to drop the captain etc, so I'm sure he'll be named, but it reminds a bit of SA and the John Smit situation. I personally think Scannell is the best option with Cronin getting the last 30 minutes or so.

Options that make the pack more "bulky" such as Ruddock and Leavy also reduce the lineout options. With the locking stocks severely depleted, I wouldn't rush to ditch the likes of POM.

Careful thought needs to go into the makeup of the back 3. From what I've seen, Addison looks a very good player, I would have him somewhere in the 23.

Cat will really be among the pigeons if Ireland go 0-2, especially given this match will be repeated in a few months. It's just as big a test for Scotland as it is for Ireland IMO, definitely the match of the weekend, as anything involving Italy is a yawnfest, and I don't see France beating England at Twickenham.
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Perifect 21:10 05-02-2019
15. Larmour
14. Earls
13. Henshaw
12. Aki
11. Stockdale
10. Sexton
9. Cooney
8. Conan
7. Van Der Flier
6. O'Mahony
5. Dillane
4. Ryan
3. Furlong
2. Scannell
1. Healy
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thebaz 21:14 05-02-2019 (1 Thanks)
Originally Posted by swiwi_:
Questions for Schmidt I would have.

Is Best really the option? it's a big step to drop the captain etc,
I'd certainly like Cronin given a go , hopefully Best will return to form - in fact, would like a bit of expermintation - Carberry/Cooney/Larmour to full back , Addison in centre - maybe give Porter a go , a back row of van der Flier/SOB/Conan . second row is a worry - Dillane to partner Ryan
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troyzer 21:16 05-02-2019
Originally Posted by swiwi_:
Questions for Schmidt I would have.

Is Best really the option? it's a big step to drop the captain etc, so I'm sure he'll be named, but it reminds a bit of SA and the John Smit situation. I personally think Scannell is the best option with Cronin getting the last 30 minutes or so.

Options that make the pack more "bulky" such as Ruddock and Leavy also reduce the lineout options. With the locking stocks severely depleted, I wouldn't rush to ditch the likes of POM.

Careful thought needs to go into the makeup of the back 3. From what I've seen, Addison looks a very good player, I would have him somewhere in the 23.

Cat will really be among the pigeons if Ireland go 0-2, especially given this match will be repeated in a few months. It's just as big a test for Scotland as it is for Ireland IMO, definitely the match of the weekend, as anything involving Italy is a yawnfest, and I don't see France beating England at Twickenham.
Are we really losing much if Best isn't in the team from a leadership perspective? There was zero on display on Saturday anyway.

Is Leavy healthy? I haven't seen an update and he hasn't played since before Christmas. The best way to manage him back would be against Southern Kings next week, then Italy the following week.

An 0-2 start would be a disaster.
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ClanofLams 21:20 05-02-2019 (1 Thanks)
Best has proven himself repeatedly. Excellent display against NZ only a couple of months ago and he was far from the only one who struggled on Saturday. Not saying he's a certainty to start in the World Cup but he's more than enough credit in the bank to retain his place this week.
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troyzer 21:21 05-02-2019
Originally Posted by ClanofLams:
Best has proven himself repeatedly. Excellent display against NZ only a couple of months ago and he was far from the only one who struggled on Saturday. Not saying he's a certainty to start in the World Cup but he's more than enough credit in the bank to retain his place this week.
I think you're right, he has a few more mediocre performances before Joe weighs up his options.

Best is still capable of great performances but his form this season has been inconsistent.
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Squidgy Black 21:26 05-02-2019
Originally Posted by troyzer:
Are we really losing much if Best isn't in the team from a leadership perspective? There was zero on display on Saturday anyway.

Is Leavy healthy? I haven't seen an update and he hasn't played since before Christmas. The best way to manage him back would be against Southern Kings next week, then Italy the following week.

An 0-2 start would be a disaster.
Who takes up the captaincy if Best doesn't play? All it takes is Scotland to target Johnny and get him riled up like Munster did, or pull a Sinckler and have POM lose the head.

Leavy was still declared unfit last week with his calf, but who do you bring him in for, VdF? POM?

POM has to start this weekend, we're already missing Toner so our lineout is going to be weak, and the other question is who calls it.

Fraser Brown will be a huge plus for Scotland if he starts, Jonny Gray if he starts will also be an absolute pain in the arse at the lineout.
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troyzer 21:31 05-02-2019
Originally Posted by Squidgy Black:
Originally Posted by troyzer:
Are we really losing much if Best isn't in the team from a leadership perspective? There was zero on display on Saturday anyway.

Is Leavy healthy? I haven't seen an update and he hasn't played since before Christmas. The best way to manage him back would be against Southern Kings next week, then Italy the following week.

An 0-2 start would be a disaster.
Who takes up the captaincy if Best doesn't play? All it takes is Scotland to target Johnny and get him riled up like Munster did, or pull a Sinckler and have POM lose the head.

Leavy was still declared unfit last week with his calf, but who do you bring him in for, VdF? POM?

POM has to start this weekend, we're already missing Toner so our lineout is going to be weak, and the other question is who calls it.

Fraser Brown will be a huge plus for Scotland if he starts, Jonny Gray if he starts will also be an absolute pain in the arse at the lineout.
I wouldn't bring Leavy in yet but I think an ideal backrow for the rest of the Six Nations is POM, VdF and SOB with Leavy on the bench.

For this week though, I'd have Ruddock on the bench. He can cover second row as well in a pinch.

The lineout is going to be a concern though, no doubt. Some of the calls on Saturday were absolutely mad.
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Perifect 21:39 05-02-2019 (2 Thanks)
Originally Posted by Squidgy Black:
Who takes up the captaincy if Best doesn't play? All it takes is Scotland to target Johnny and get him riled up like Munster did, or pull a Sinckler and have POM lose the head.

Leavy was still declared unfit last week with his calf, but who do you bring him in for, VdF? POM?

POM has to start this weekend, we're already missing Toner so our lineout is going to be weak, and the other question is who calls it.

Fraser Brown will be a huge plus for Scotland if he starts, Jonny Gray if he starts will also be an absolute pain in the arse at the lineout.
O'Mahony is the obvious candidate for captaincy.
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Western Pomise 21:53 05-02-2019
Originally Posted by Perifect:
15. Larmour
14. Earls
13. Henshaw
12. Aki
11. Stockdale
10. Sexton
9. Cooney
8. Conan
7. Van Der Flier
6. O'Mahony
5. Dillane
4. Ryan
3. Furlong
2. Scannell
1. Healy
Is Ringrose injured?.....because he was Ireland’s best performer in the back line last wkd so don’t see why he wouldn’t start v Scotland.
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Jump_In_Jack 21:55 05-02-2019
https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2019/...reland-starts/

Looks like these are the options to face Scotland:

15. Kearney, 23. Larmour
14. Earls - Byrne
13. Henshaw - Addison, C Farrell, T Farrell
12. Aki
11. Stockdale
10. Sexton, 22. Carbery - Carty
9. Murray, 21. Cooney - Blade
8. O’Brien - Conan
7. Van der Flier, 20. Murphy
6. O’Mahony - Ruddock
5. Roux - Holland
4. Ryan, 19. Dillane
3. Furlong, 18. Porter - Ryan
2. Best, 16. Cronin - Scannell
1. Healy, 17. Kilcoyne - McGrath
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Perifect 21:57 05-02-2019
Originally Posted by Western Pomise:
Is Ringrose injured?.....because he was Ireland’s best performer in the back line last wkd so don’t see why he wouldn’t start v Scotland.
Yes, he's out.
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