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Ireland Team Talk Thread IX: Grand Slam Champions SEE MOD WARNING POST #1122

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    #7532
    Some Yoke
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭Some Yoke


    Paul Smeenus wrote: »
    Oh, Madigan.

    A creative, impulsive, unchecked genius, a trader in oval ball magic, unwilling - nay, unable!! - to be fettered by prosaic team plans and stratagems, preparing to paint the night with astonishment and derring-do. In the confines of Joe's regimented, automaton rugby, a spirit who refused to be caged, restlessly inventing, and man undone by his visionary nature.

    THEY COULD NOT SHACKLE HIM.

    Or, alternatively, a good but fetishised player who never improved enough.

    This is a fantastic post I love it


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    #7533
    connachta
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    Addison will be chosen


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    #7534
    Burkie1203
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    connachta wrote: »
    Addison will be chosen

    For 6n Chris Farrell will be selected in extended squad at least.


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    #7535
    Some Yoke
    Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭Some Yoke


    If there is an injury to the top 3 centres, Farrell goes. If not, Addison goes. Shame that good players will be left behind but as Schmidt might say its a squad sport


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    #7536
    wp_rathead
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    connachta wrote: »
    Addison will be chosen

    He will
    But so will Farrell
    It will be Sweetnam who'll miss out IMO


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    #7537
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    He will
    But so will Farrell
    It will be Sweetnam who'll miss out IMO

    Doubt Sweetman was within an ass’s roar of the RWC squad.


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    #7538
    wp_rathead
    Registered Users Posts: 10,067 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    stephen_n wrote: »
    Doubt Sweetman was within an ass’s roar of the RWC squad.

    thought we were on about 6N


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    #7539
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    Farrell hitting the ground running after so long out. Good to see

    MOTM on his return.
    That’s a shot in the arm for Munster and Ireland now!


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    #7540
    Elvisjuice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Elvisjuice


    Jump_In_Jack wrote: »
    MOTM on his return.
    That’s a shot in the arm for Munster and Ireland now!

    he was unreal


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    #7541
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Just watching the Munster game back.

    Farrell is having a good game so far. Murray though is just pure class. You forget how intelligent he is with his kicks.


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    #7542
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    Elvisjuice wrote: »
    he was unreal

    He certainly offers another dimension that the Irish squad don’t have from any other backs.
    He crashed through some big tackles and accelerated away from the contact. Won all his collisions.
    If Ireland need to use him as a battering ram for certain opposition he offers a great target to draw the defense out to his channel.
    Could be a brilliant platform for line-breaks and offloads, particularly against weaker opposition in the pool stages of the RWC.


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    #7543
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    thought we were on about 6N

    Even so, he would be involved with the wider squad, but couldn’t see him anywhere near the match day 23, or even the reduced squad. Stockdale and Earls to start, with Addison Conway and Larmour fighting it out for the 23 spot.


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    #7544
    Mookie Blaylock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    stephen_n wrote: »
    Even so, he would be involved with the wider squad, but couldn’t see him anywhere near the match day 23, or even the reduced squad. Stockdale and Earls to start, with Addison Conway and Larmour fighting it out for the 23 spot.

    Course you couldn't see it.... nothing new here


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    #7545
    stephen_n
    Registered Users Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Mookie Blaylock wrote: »
    Course you couldn't see it.... nothing new here

    If you take the red tinted glasses off for a minute I’m sure you’d see it too. Doubt that will be happening though given your history.


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    #7546
    foxyladyxx
    Registered Users Posts: 853 ✭✭✭foxyladyxx


    Mookie Blaylock wrote: »
    Course you couldn't see it.... nothing new here

    If he continues to play as he did against tougher opposition he would be ranked 4th at the very least.


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    #7547
    [Deleted User]
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    Farrell would make a decent 12. Him and Ringrose could work well together.


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    #7548
    foxyladyxx
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Farrell would make a decent 12. Him and Ringrose could work well together.


    I find it hard to see him playing ahead of Aki


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    #7549
    Jump_In_Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Farrell would make a decent 12. Him and Ringrose could work well together.

    Or swap them around. Ringrose can play 12.


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    #7550
    MattD
    Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭MattD


    I think if Farrell is fit and firing, he's in the squad, as said he really offers something the rest of our players don't. I was wary of him as I wasn't expecting him to come back in so well, but based on that performance, and Joe's grá for him he's looking extremely likely to be in the 6N squad and then the RWC

    If we're talking about players that can slot into the back line seamlessly and offer something immediately, I think all 4 centres go.

    Definites are:

    Murray, Marmion
    Sexton, Carbery

    Stockdale
    Henshaw, Aki
    Ringrose, Farrell
    Earls
    Kearney, Larmour

    With the last two spots going to one of Conway/Addison, and one of McGrath/Byrne/Cooney.


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    #7551
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    MattD wrote: »
    I think if Farrell is fit and firing, he's in the squad, as said he really offers something the rest of our players don't. I was wary of him as I wasn't expecting him to come back in so well, but based on that performance, and Joe's grá for him he's looking extremely likely to be in the 6N squad and then the RWC

    If we're talking about players that can slot into the back line seamlessly and offer something immediately, I think all 4 centres go.

    Definites are:

    Murray, Marmion
    Sexton, Carbery

    Stockdale
    Henshaw, Aki
    Ringrose, Farrell
    Earls
    Kearney, Larmour

    With the last two spots going to one of Conway/Addison, and one of McGrath/Byrne/Cooney.

    There are at least ten players in the same bracket as Farrell. But there is no way Joe brings four dedicated centres.


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    #7552
    MattD
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    troyzer wrote: »
    There are at least ten players in the same bracket as Farrell. But there is no way Joe brings four dedicated centres.

    I disagree.

    For the 6 nations 36 man squad, there was 16 backs: 6 Half backs, 4 centres, 6 back three. Joe's been known to only bring 5 half backs in reduced squads (only Sexton and Carbery in OH in some recent squads, or the 'Madigan third choice 9' debacle), so the other dropped player could easily be an extra wing.

    I think it's within the realms of possibility that Joe thinks having Farrell in the squad will prove more valuable than having all of Addison, Conway and Larmour in it. Particularly with how attritionally our centres play.


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    #7553
    irishbucsfan
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    MattD wrote: »
    I disagree.

    For the 6 nations 36 man squad, there was 16 backs: 6 Half backs, 4 centres, 6 back three. Joe's been known to only bring 5 half backs in reduced squads (only Sexton and Carbery in OH in some recent squads, or the 'Madigan third choice 9' debacle), so the other dropped player could easily be an extra wing.

    I think it's within the realms of possibility that Joe thinks having Farrell in the squad will prove more valuable than having all of Addison, Conway and Larmour in it. Particularly with how attritionally our centres play.

    They won't be allowed to take 36 players to the world cup.

    He took 3 centers in 2015, although Madigan could probably cover


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    #7554
    MattD
    Registered Users Posts: 1,010 ✭✭✭MattD


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    They won't be allowed to take 36 players to the world cup.

    He took 3 centers in 2015, although Madigan could probably cover

    Yeah, I'm saying they have to cut two players from the 16 players for a RWC squad.

    In 2015 Earls and Fitzgerald went basically as centres along with Payne, Henshaw and Cave with the Kearneys, Zebo and Bowe being the first choice back 3 players.


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    #7555
    Dubinusa
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    I can't see how Conway misses out! He's very close to the level of Earl's imo. He covers both wings and fb.
    As far as centers go, we have real depth and I think injuries will be the key.
    I think Addison will travel, if he continues his form and Larmour may miss out.
    I only say that as Larmour was not very good position wise or under the high ball against the pumas. Whether he was injured or not, I don't know. Larmour is brilliant but, if he can't play top quality fb, he will not travel imo.
    What a position to be in!


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    #7556
    Wegians89
    Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    I know Farrell had a good game yesterday and he’s comfortably 4th choice center but there’s no chance they bring 4 especially when Addison can over 11-15


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    #7557
    Faugheen
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    What exactly does Farrell offer that the rest don't, though?

    Unless something happens to Ringrose, Aki or Henshaw, I can't see Farrell going to the World Cup. It makes no sense bringing 4 centres. 3 + 1 utility back is plenty.


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    #7558
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Faugheen wrote: »
    What exactly does Farrell offer that the rest don't, though?

    Unless something happens to Ringrose, Aki or Henshaw, I can't see Farrell going to the World Cup. It makes no sense bringing 4 centres. 3 + 1 utility back is plenty.

    I don't it's overly fantastical to suggest that Farrell could overtake Aki over the course of the 6 nations.


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    #7559
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    kuang1 wrote: »
    Faugheen wrote: »
    What exactly does Farrell offer that the rest don't, though?

    Unless something happens to Ringrose, Aki or Henshaw, I can't see Farrell going to the World Cup. It makes no sense bringing 4 centres. 3 + 1 utility back is plenty.

    I don't it's overly fantastical to suggest that Farrell could overtake Aki over the course of the 6 nations.

    It definitely is. Aki is pure class.


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    #7560
    Former Former
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    kuang1 wrote: »
    I don't it's overly fantastical to suggest that Farrell could overtake Aki over the course of the 6 nations.

    Barring injury, Farrell is unlikely to feature at all, let alone overtake anyone.


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    #7561
    The Lost Sheep
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    kuang1 wrote: »
    I don't it's overly fantastical to suggest that Farrell could overtake Aki over the course of the 6 nations.
    No chance he will over take him in next 2 months


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