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Ireland Team Talk Thread IX: Grand Slam Champions SEE MOD WARNING POST #1122

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    #7562
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭kuang1


    troyzer wrote: »
    It definitely is. Aki is pure class.

    Aki is pure class. No argument there.

    Consider the last 2 times we've seen Farrell play though... MOTM against Wales in February, and despite being out with injury for 10 months picks up from where he left off last night with another barnstorming performance.

    So to say "it definitely is" crazy talk to suggest he might surpass Aki is a little hyperbolic tbf.


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    #7563
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭kuang1


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    No chance he will over take him in next 2 months

    And I think some on here are underestimating Joe's love for Farrell.


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    #7564
    Former Former
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭Former Former


    Skittling the Edinburgh thirds is totally meaningless in terms of international selection, Farrell will have to do it on a bigger stage and even then, he needs a big slice of luck too.


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    #7565
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    kuang1 wrote: »
    And I think some on here are underestimating Joe's love for Farrell.
    I dont think so.
    He needs to do more in bigger games for his province and needs injuries as well.


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    #7566
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    It's not a knock against Farrell. He just isn't as good as Aki or Henshaw and Joe isn't going to take four centres.

    Like I said already, he's probably just one of those guys like Conway and maybe VdF who are outstanding but still likely to miss out barring injury.


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    #7567
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭kuang1


    OK ok. All valid points lads. (although FF... Do I need to mention the Welsh game 10 months ago again?)

    And I'm not stating that I believe it to be something that WILL happen... But it wouldn't surprise me one jot if Joe picks Farrell over Aki.


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    #7568
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    kuang1 wrote: »
    OK ok. All valid points lads. (although FF... Do I need to mention the Welsh game 10 months ago again?)

    And I'm not stating that I believe it to be something that WILL happen... But it wouldn't surprise me one jot if Joe picks Farrell over Aki.

    Farrell only played that game because of injuries remember.

    He doesn't just need to get past Aki, he has to get past Henshaw as well who has been magnificent so far this season.


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    #7569
    connachta
    Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭connachta


    kuang1 wrote: »
    OK ok. All valid points lads. (although FF... Do I need to mention the Welsh game 10 months ago again?)

    And I'm not stating that I believe it to be something that WILL happen... But it wouldn't surprise me one jot if Joe picks Farrell over Aki.


    It won't happen. 3 centres nailed down. Probably not even a 4th


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    #7570
    Squidgy Black
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    I don't think you could say Joe has a love for Farrell considering the only big game he's started was against Wales in the 6N, his other two appearances were Fiji and Argentina.


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    #7571
    kuang1
    Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭kuang1


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    I don't think you could say Joe has a love for Farrell considering the only big game he's started was against Wales in the 6N, his other two appearances were Fiji and Argentina.

    Have you never heard any reference to the amount of contact between the two of them before Farrell came to Munster?
    It was substantial. I'm basing my idea of Joe's love for him on that much more than on his selection.


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    #7572
    MattD
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    Considering our centres are constantly getting knocks (pretty sure we have not had Henshaw, Ringrose and Aki all fit for selection this year), bringing 4 centres doesn't seem crazy to me... As crazy as bringing 6 back three players which is the alternative really.


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    #7573
    Squidgy Black
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    kuang1 wrote: »
    Have you never heard any reference to the amount of contact between the two of them before Farrell came to Munster?
    It was substantial. I'm basing my idea of Joe's love for him on that much more than on his selection.

    I mean, Joe trying to convince a player to come home from playing abroad, and planting the seed to try convince him to sign for a province isn't exactly ground breaking.

    I think you're over-hyping the stature of Farrell in the Irish squad considering he's only played in two AI games and one game in the 6 Nations.


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    #7574
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    MattD wrote: »
    Considering our centres are constantly getting knocks (pretty sure we have not had Henshaw, Ringrose and Aki all fit for selection this year), bringing 4 centres doesn't seem crazy to me... As crazy as bringing 6 back three players which is the alternative really.

    Earls, Addison, Larmour or whoever else can also cover midfield against weaker sides.

    Once we get to the knockouts, anyone with any meaningful knock will be sent home and replaced.

    The chances of bringing 4 centers seems very small to me. Especially when we brought 3 last time and barely used the 3rd.


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    #7575
    Elvisjuice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Elvisjuice


    Former Former wrote: »
    Skittling the Edinburgh thirds is totally meaningless in terms of international selection, Farrell will have to do it on a bigger stage and even then, he needs a big slice of luck too.




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    #7576
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Elvisjuice wrote: »
    Former Former wrote: »
    Skittling the Edinburgh thirds is totally meaningless in terms of international selection, Farrell will have to do it on a bigger stage and even then, he needs a big slice of luck too.



    He even said at the beginning that he was there for an injured Henshaw. Farrell isn't a bad player and it's hardly impossible for a good injury replacement to have a big game.

    Again, nobody is disputing Farrell is brilliant. But putting in one good game over an awful Edinburgh doesn't mean he leapfrogs the two 12s in front of him.

    Nor is there enough time in the next 7 weeks to do anymore than get into into the extended Ireland squad.

    And there is just no feasible way he goes to the world cup unless there's an injury or loss of form.

    Four centres is a complete waste when there are several options in the back line who can cover. Even Sexton has played test rugby at 12.


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    #7577
    Former Former
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    Elvisjuice wrote: »

    Uh huh.

    Except since then, Aki, Henshaw and Ringrose have moved even further ahead.


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    #7578
    Elvisjuice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Elvisjuice


    Former Former wrote: »
    Uh huh.

    Except since then, Aki, Henshaw and Ringrose have moved even further ahead.

    has he not being injured for a long time ? and you said he needed to do it not at club level , bit like the back peddling on the Owen Farrell tackle :pac:


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    #7579
    Wegians89
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    Farrell’s a very good player but he’s not getting ahead of the other three. I think ringrose, bundee abd henshaw would probably start for every other team in the world. Davis is probably the only center who would start ahead of them


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    #7580
    Elvisjuice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Elvisjuice


    troyzer wrote: »
    He even said at the beginning that he was there for an injured Henshaw. Farrell isn't a bad player and it's hardly impossible for a good injury replacement to have a big game.

    Again, nobody is disputing Farrell is brilliant. But putting in one good game over an awful Edinburgh doesn't mean he leapfrogs the two 12s in front of him.

    Nor is there enough time in the next 7 weeks to do anymore than get into into the extended Ireland squad.

    And there is just no feasible way he goes to the world cup unless there's an injury or loss of form.

    Four centres is a complete waste when there are several options in the back line who can cover. Even Sexton has played test rugby at 12.

    never said there was


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    #7581
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Elvisjuice wrote: »
    troyzer wrote: »
    He even said at the beginning that he was there for an injured Henshaw. Farrell isn't a bad player and it's hardly impossible for a good injury replacement to have a big game.

    Again, nobody is disputing Farrell is brilliant. But putting in one good game over an awful Edinburgh doesn't mean he leapfrogs the two 12s in front of him.

    Nor is there enough time in the next 7 weeks to do anymore than get into into the extended Ireland squad.

    And there is just no feasible way he goes to the world cup unless there's an injury or loss of form.

    Four centres is a complete waste when there are several options in the back line who can cover. Even Sexton has played test rugby at 12.

    never said there was

    I have no idea which part of my comment you're replying to there.


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    #7582
    Elvisjuice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Elvisjuice


    troyzer wrote: »
    I have no idea which part of my comment you're replying to there.

    wc squad


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    #7583
    Former Former
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    Conor O'Brien has been incredible against the Dragons tonight.

    Can't see Aki or Henshaw making the RWC squad.


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    #7584
    Elvisjuice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Elvisjuice


    Former Former wrote: »
    Conor O'Brien has been incredible against the Dragons tonight.

    Can't see Aki or Henshaw making the RWC squad.

    yep hes a shoe in


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    #7585
    foxyladyxx
    Registered Users Posts: 853 ✭✭✭foxyladyxx


    Former Former wrote: »
    Conor O'Brien has been incredible against the Dragons tonight.

    Can't see Aki or Henshaw making the RWC squad.

    Huh?


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    #7586
    The Lost Sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    foxyladyxx wrote: »
    Huh?
    Its a joke....


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    #7587
    foxyladyxx
    Registered Users Posts: 853 ✭✭✭foxyladyxx


    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Its a joke....

    Wasn't too sure.. .:o


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    #7588
    thegreycity
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭thegreycity


    Reckon Frawley might have pipped Sexton for the starting spot over the last two games too.


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    #7589
    foxyladyxx
    Registered Users Posts: 853 ✭✭✭foxyladyxx


    thegreycity wrote: »
    Reckon Frawley might have pipped Sexton for the starting spot over the last two games too.

    Another joker surely?


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    #7590
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    thegreycity wrote: »
    Reckon Frawley might have pipped Sexton for the starting spot over the last two games too.

    Yeah, we can finally put the openside selection dilemma to bed now as well.

    Penny is clearly the best 7 in Ireland after his two professional games playing well against crap teams.


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    #7591
    thegreycity
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭thegreycity


    foxyladyxx wrote: »
    Another joker surely?

    Yea, you got me, but seriously what do you think about Paddy Patterson for Ireland?


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