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Gangland Shootings part 3 - Read OP before posting - updated 27/12/23

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    #512
    Too Tough To Die
    Registered Users Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭Too Tough To Die


    Billhook wrote: »
    If you met them, they're the sort of guys who would open a door for you in a shop, or hold it open if you were behind them on the way in.
    Mannerly enough just like any other member of society.

    This whole thing is like a movie or novel, very intriguing and intense.
    And the wattsapp videos etc, I wonder is there going to be a book wrote about all this?

    Those limerick guys seem to come out on top, you hear nothing about them next thing they're on top again.

    I'd say if they played chess they'd be pretty dam good at it.
    Imagine them running a company, they'd be absolute geniuses.

    I grew up in a housing estate and as a teenager I worked in Quinnsworth with real street wise lads in Cork City in the early 90's they were the best workers on the floor.
    Say one guy was on the mineral section, his patch it would be immaculate.
    He would have great time keeping and his t's were crossed i's dotted.

    Some went on to become trainee managers others went to Amsterdam, that was a long time ago.

    You're giving these clowns way too much credit by painting them as masterminds.


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    #513
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    Seems to be the life of all of these supposed money filled gangsters that they don’t have a penny to run together most of the time. They seem to spend it all as they know around the next corner will be fatal for them. Allot of these “gangsters” don’t cough up the money either for hits and stuff like that. The lads don’t seem to be there when the brains were being handed out. Just shows it’s a fools game.

    How do you know none of them have any money?

    You RL's accountant?


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    #514
    Haladmirer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Haladmirer


    Billhook wrote: »
    If you met them, they're the sort of guys who would open a door for you in a shop, or hold it open if you were behind them on the way in.
    Mannerly enough just like any other member of society.

    This whole thing is like a movie or novel, very intriguing and intense.
    And the wattsapp videos etc, I wonder is there going to be a book wrote about all this?

    Those limerick guys seem to come out on top, you hear nothing about them next thing they're on top again.

    I'd say if they played chess they'd be pretty dam good at it.
    Imagine them running a company, they'd be absolute geniuses.

    I grew up in a housing estate and as a teenager I worked in Quinnsworth with real street wise lads in Cork City in the early 90's they were the best workers on the floor.
    Say one guy was on the mineral section, his patch it would be immaculate.
    He would have great time keeping and his t's were crossed i's dotted.

    Some went on to become trainee managers others went to Amsterdam, that was a long time ago.

    I was living in Amsterdam in the 90s and met a few headbangers from Mayfield think it was
    I was working and they were too till they started filling up there bags with Es,as we called them then,and flying home.all mad bastards


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    #515
    rodmn2377
    Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭rodmn2377


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    How do you know none of them have any money?

    You RL's accountant?

    Ya lots of them have money and lots have plenty of money but these guys are always tempted by the thoughts of getting more.. I always remember a lad telling me when he started he selling gear he was going to stop when he mad 100k.. made that in no time so said I'll make 500 and stop but couldn't stop.. always wanted more ended up being involved in a feud killing and got life for it..


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    #516
    seantomo
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭seantomo


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    Cheers, makes sense how they ended up in the front garden, he’s fitness didn’t help that day eh. Perfectly planned. Doubt there is any more like RL out there who operate for so long while he was alive. Still wonder what he’s role was in KMW murder. It’s a fascinating story on Ruthless.


    The only other hitman out there who is as phsycotic as RL is currently banged up, DK personal hitman.


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    #517
    P.Walnuts
    Registered Users Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    rodmn2377 wrote: »
    Ya lots of them have money and lots have plenty of money but these guys are always tempted by the thoughts of getting more.. I always remember a lad telling me when he started he selling gear he was going to stop when he mad 100k.. made that in no time so said I'll make 500 and stop but couldn't stop.. always wanted more ended up being involved in a feud killing and got life for it..

    Nail on the head, just because you do a job doesn't mean you're doing it because you're broke.

    So much vague bullsh1t posted on here


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    #518
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    How do you know none of them have any money?

    You RL's accountant?

    From reading reports like yourself they seem to be always trying to get money as they are on empty,

    RL’s accountant lol I’m out of a job so :D
    Add that to the list of accusations on this thread, Garda, Journo, Accountant & I think I was Vicky at one stage. Leave it out.


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    #519
    gary550
    Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭gary550


    Billhook wrote: »
    If you met them, they're the sort of guys who would open a door for you in a shop, or hold it open if you were behind them on the way in.
    Mannerly enough just like any other member of society.

    This whole thing is like a movie or novel, very intriguing and intense.
    And the wattsapp videos etc, I wonder is there going to be a book wrote about all this?

    Those limerick guys seem to come out on top, you hear nothing about them next thing they're on top again.

    I'd say if they played chess they'd be pretty dam good at it.
    Imagine them running a company, they'd be absolute geniuses.

    I grew up in a housing estate and as a teenager I worked in Quinnsworth with real street wise lads in Cork City in the early 90's they were the best workers on the floor.
    Say one guy was on the mineral section, his patch it would be immaculate.
    He would have great time keeping and his t's were crossed i's dotted.

    Some went on to become trainee managers others went to Amsterdam, that was a long time ago.

    Take a look at RL's instagram page, the chap could barely put a sentence together coherently. Like most criminals at his level, he was by no means a brain box.

    Although there are some criminals who are extremely intelligent they are not the ones running around the streets like brutes & running other peoples errands.


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    #520
    rodmn2377
    Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭rodmn2377


    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Nail on the head, just because you do a job doesn't mean you're doing it because you're broke.

    So much vague bullsh1t posted on here

    Look everybody posts what they hear and that should be ok.. we all hear stuff.. some correct and some complete ****... at least with a thread like this we can put different stuff together and a lot of the time piece it up fairly decent..


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    #521
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    seantomo wrote: »
    The only other hitman out there who is as phsycotic as RL is currently banged up, DK personal hitman.

    There’s a vacancy going if he’s out anytime soon. RL avoided the limelight for so long and got away with so much. Shows the all this social media stardom isn’t the best career move, I’m sure there’s many who have learnt to stay off the papers and online who are doing a tidy number without all the attention and knives in their backs. Brains go a long way in these games.


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    #522
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    rodmn2377 wrote: »
    Look everybody posts what they hear and that should be ok.. we all hear stuff.. some correct and some complete ****... at least with a thread like this we can put different stuff together and a lot of the time piece it up fairly decent..

    Exactly and that’s all most are here for to see the stories and put the puzzle together and some are here to judge everyone with their paranoia. Name calling like a crèche.


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    #523
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Billhook wrote: »
    If you met them, they're the sort of guys who would open a door for you in a shop, or hold it open if you were behind them on the way in.
    Mannerly enough just like any other member of society.

    This whole thing is like a movie or novel, very intriguing and intense.
    And the wattsapp videos etc, I wonder is there going to be a book wrote about all this?

    Those limerick guys seem to come out on top, you hear nothing about them next thing they're on top again.

    I'd say if they played chess they'd be pretty dam good at it.
    Imagine them running a company, they'd be absolute geniuses.

    I grew up in a housing estate and as a teenager I worked in Quinnsworth with real street wise lads in Cork City in the early 90's they were the best workers on the floor.
    Say one guy was on the mineral section, his patch it would be immaculate.
    He would have great time keeping and his t's were crossed i's dotted.

    Some went on to become trainee managers others went to Amsterdam, that was a long time ago.

    Crazy stuff.

    This isn't The Wire we're talking about here or Casino etc. This is fellas cutting up teenagers and dumping them in housing estates. These are fellas killing people because of mistaken identity. Alan Sugar or Bill Gates are they not.

    I wouldn't employ them to sweep the street.


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    #524
    Billhook
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭Billhook


    Too Tough To Die wrote: »
    You're giving these clowns way too much credit by painting them as masterminds.

    Im not giving anyone credit really but coming from the hood myself, I have an idea about how they think etc.

    I was different from them, but I never had dealings with gangs, I was more of a group of grunge kids and heavy metalers in an estate of ravers and housey music teenagers.
    We knew each other and there was no anomosity between the different clicks we sometimes went bush drinking together, or ended up drinking in the same parks on a Friday night, no scraps or turf wars.
    It was different in the 90's there was respect between the families.
    You'd buy a bit of blow, or what ever maybe a fiver for a 5 spot that would be it.
    We all grew up together and drifted apart, but never fell out, some lads ended up inside others went down a different path.
    Sometimes I'd bump into the old gangsters or we'd meet fishing for mackerel in the summer down in Cobh and have general chit chat...
    How's your family,mines doing well.
    How's your old man, he used to bring us fishing years ago things like that.
    Remember the old days, things are different now... And so on


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    #525
    seantomo
    Registered Users Posts: 30 ✭seantomo


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    There’s a vacancy going if he’s out anytime soon. RL avoided the limelight for so long and got away with so much. Shows the all this social media stardom isn’t the best career move, I’m sure there’s many who have learnt to stay off the papers and online who are doing a tidy number without all the attention and knives in their backs. Brains go a long way in these games.


    The ones with the brains armt pulling the trigger, the knuckle heads like RL do it not for the money but for the buzz, live fast die young. The ones that caught are the lucky ones .


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    #526
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    seantomo wrote: »
    The ones with the brains armt pulling the trigger, the knuckle heads like RL do it not for the money but for the buzz, live fast die young. The ones that caught are the lucky ones .

    Totally agree, there’s a bare few that got out in their 30’s and done something with themselves but the amount of mistrust and back stabbing these days no wonder they are paranoid plus add a shed load of Coke, doesn’t take a genius to understand why they are living fast and dying young. There’s a bit to go but as a film or a book it would be fascinating to read or watch.


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    #527
    TheAnalyst_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭TheAnalyst_


    Whats fascinating about it? Coked up knackers getting agitated and killing each other.


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    #528
    yermandan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭yermandan


    seantomo wrote: »
    The only other hitman out there who is as phsycotic as RL is currently banged up, DK personal hitman.

    This fella?

    Mental story

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/3460516/gardai-daniel-kinahan-contact-hitman-hutch-james-mago-gately/


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    #529
    careless sherpa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 373 ✭✭careless sherpa


    Haladmirer wrote: »
    Agree.
    All the talk of smart cunning RL and he goes and trusts travellers
    I suspect he was skint and little options
    Most of his hits were personal so not paid
    He wasn't a dealer
    Being skint was a way of life for him I'd say
    Living on the move costs money.

    He could have morphed into an Omar little type character with his reputation


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    #530
    IRE60
    Registered Users Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭IRE60


    White lighting wrote: »
    Most reports I have read are Robbie went in the front door to collect the Money and shooter came in the back door and gave chase.


    Came in and out the back door according to the Bel Tel. If you look at the house on at Google maps - satellite - you will see there's a lane running at the back if the house where the shooting took place - make it easier for a quick exit.


    Also, the ladies with the 50 large - they were stopped at 2pm that afternoon in an intelligence lead operation I read yesterday, that was fairly quick on all sides.


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    #531
    Jimmy McGill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭Jimmy McGill


    yermandan wrote: »
    This fella?

    Mental story

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/3460516/gardai-daniel-kinahan-contact-hitman-hutch-james-mago-gately/

    No not him


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    #532
    IRE60
    Registered Users Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭IRE60


    seantomo wrote: »
    The ones with the brains armt pulling the trigger, the knuckle heads like RL do it not for the money but for the buzz, live fast die young. The ones that caught are the lucky ones .


    The one with the brains is living in Dubai!


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    #533
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    IRE60 wrote: »
    Came in and out the back door according to the Bel Tel. If you look at the house on at Google maps - satellite - you will see there's a lane running at the back if the house where the shooting took place - make it easier for a quick exit.


    Also, the ladies with the 50 large - they were stopped at 2pm that afternoon in an intelligence lead operation I read yesterday, that was fairly quick on all sides.

    Yea he was out the gap as fast and then due the lads in the car had nowhere to go, probably didn’t even know the place around them so easily nabbed by the PSNI, who are well used to this carry on. As for the 50 Large Ladies :D I say they are well known to the Gardaí and it might have been that they were tracking them as soon as they left Limerick so they got lucky that to tied into what was happening in The North. There’s no way they knew the connection unless they have a source in the know.


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    #534
    Haladmirer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Haladmirer


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    Yea he was out the gap as fast and then due the lads in the car had nowhere to go, probably didn’t even know the place around them so easily nabbed by the PSNI, who are well used to this carry on. As for the 50 Large Ladies :D I say they are well known to the Gardaí and it might have been that they were tracking them as soon as they left Limerick so they got lucky that to tied into what was happening in The North. There’s no way they knew the connection unless they have a source in the know.
    More than likely they were following the guys who gave them the money
    More likely now still watching active Drogheda guys than molls of long gone guys


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    #535
    Stooped
    Registered Users Posts: 448 ✭✭Stooped


    There's the lads all cosy now


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    #536
    Throwaway 20
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Throwaway 20


    gary550 wrote: »
    Take a look at RL's instagram page, the chap could barely put a sentence together coherently. Like most criminals at his level, he was by no means a brain box.

    Although there are some criminals who are extremely intelligent they are not the ones running around the streets like brutes & running other peoples errands.

    Don't confuse punctuality with intelligence. Robbie was always very smart.


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    #537
    Throwaway 20
    Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭Throwaway 20


    smelly sock wrote: »
    Crazy stuff.

    This isn't The Wire we're talking about here or Casino etc. This is fellas cutting up teenagers and dumping them in housing estates. These are fellas killing people because of mistaken identity. Alan Sugar or Bill Gates are they not.

    I wouldn't employ them to sweep the street.

    I think people seem to forget that people who own multi million dollar companies very rarely if ever come from places like Darndale and if so they have always have a positive role model in there lives, such as a strong father or mother. Usually the criminals we read about or know are not so fortunate.


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    #538
    Lord_Slong
    Closed Accounts Posts: 242 ✭✭Lord_Slong


    Make no mistake about it lads, Robbie was a cunning ****er. He just got caught on the hop. He went to the gaff to collect the few bob and the killer came in through the back door. Robbie wasn't even carrying.

    I've been in Ardoyne a few times, the back allies can easily be navigated if you have knowledge of the area. You can leave on house and run through and be in the opposite road in seconds. I've heard that the person Robbie was going to see got in contact with a certain Dublin criminal and then the foundations were laid from there.

    Robbie was at ease going into the area because he's been up and down a few times collecting money, what I can't get info on is why the Dundon mob were with him. That's the strange part of it all


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    #539
    Titan2020
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭Titan2020


    Billhook wrote: »
    If you met them, they're the sort of guys who would open a door for you in a shop, or hold it open if you were behind them on the way in.
    Mannerly enough just like any other member of society.

    This whole thing is like a movie or novel, very intriguing and intense.
    And the wattsapp videos etc, I wonder is there going to be a book wrote about all this?

    Those limerick guys seem to come out on top, you hear nothing about them next thing they're on top again.

    I'd say if they played chess they'd be pretty dam good at it.
    Imagine them running a company, they'd be absolute geniuses.

    I grew up in a housing estate and as a teenager I worked in Quinnsworth with real street wise lads in Cork City in the early 90's they were the best workers on the floor.
    Say one guy was on the mineral section, his patch it would be immaculate.
    He would have great time keeping and his t's were crossed i's dotted.

    Some went on to become trainee managers others went to Amsterdam, that was a long time ago.
    Kid they are far from the sort the would hold the shop door open for ya, maybe before they all got power crazy and started believing their own headlines..they are the sort that would walk straight into you while you were walking out of the shop then slap the **** out of you for not moving out of their way, To give an example..a close associate of theirs used to mug old people the morning of pensions getting paid out, look up a certain family in Southhill limerick another close associate of theirs was arrested and charged with John when he got caught with the Gun (lika) These people are far from ordinary decent criminals


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    #540
    Haladmirer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Haladmirer


    Getting money for a dundons debt?
    Or pretend debt if it was a set up


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    #541
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Lord_Slong wrote: »
    Make no mistake about it lads, Robbie was a cunning ****er. He just got caught on the hop. He went to the gaff to collect the few bob and the killer came in through the back door. Robbie wasn't even carrying.

    I've been in Ardoyne a few times, the back allies can easily be navigated if you have knowledge of the area. You can leave on house and run through and be in the opposite road in seconds. I've heard that the person Robbie was going to see got in contact with a certain Dublin criminal and then the foundations were laid from there.

    Robbie was at ease going into the area because he's been up and down a few times collecting money, what I can't get info on is why the Dundon mob were with him. That's the strange part of it all

    The connection here is Travellers, money and revenge. OM must of got word he was friendly with some of the Dundons, then hatched a plan and used money & RL’s reputation against him I would guess. Easy say look RL will take ye out himself at some stage & I’ve someone to do it, you just have to get him there and I’ll do the rest. How does 50k up front sound. I’m sure the minute the money was handed over The Lads bound for Belfast got the green light the money was handed over.
    The question is how was he connected with them and how long has he been associated with the Limerick lads.
    That’s alot of trust to travel to Belfast or have all of these made that trip together previously? I’m sure the intention was to make it look like they knew nothing about it in the aftermath but getting caught with the money has ended all hopes of that.


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