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Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Tolerably witty. Do you write Jo Brand's scripts for her?

    Even worse, do you write for James Corden?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Leo said what his briefing notes told him to say. The fault lies - and there's no argument here - with the professionally qualified buffoons on the project team who costed the tender and evidently made a complete dog's mickey of it.

    The money is wasted only if you regard the building of a much needed and long promised National Childrens' Hospital as wasted expenditure.

    I dont agree with the second point. Its a waste of money if it could be built to the same standard and quality at a lower price, anythibg above that price is a waste of money.

    Tenders in this country are a joke, the amount of times big projects are way way way over the tender price is ridiculous.

    The government should have people to price projects like this and then put it to tender, compare their figures with the governments and whoever is closest should get it, with penalties build in for over running.

    The way it is at the minute, you can seemingly make up a figure, get the contract and then say oh its nearly treble.

    Or somtimes you can FG government contracts if you set up a company after the tendering deadline and after introducing water charges Big Phil gets a cushy EU number.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    According to Leo, Maria Bailey is one of his better TD's, one of the more competent ones. Says a lot about him and his team really.

    Not only is Bailey competent she is a mother too so that is double brownie points for Maria in the land of La-la-Leo.

    We are lucky to have TDs of such caliber and competence to serve us, now shut up and pay yisser taxes


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    I know CSO works at a glacial pace but anyone have any idea where we can get stats on joblosses related to businesses closing down due to insurance hikes?

    Surely a massive spike in those figures this year and last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    I know CSO works at a glacial pace but anyone have any idea where we can get stats on joblosses related to businesses closing down due to insurance hikes?

    Surely a massive spike in those figures this year and last year.

    How would the CSO know if job losses are related to insurance hikes? They wouldn't have access to that kind of data.

    They'd know how many job losses there were but they wouldn't know the cause of the job losses.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Should be simple enough to assemble data on how many business closures and the cause of them no? Isn’t that what they do?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    So basically what you're saying is Varadkar and Harris cant be held accountable because they didnt know what they were doing.



    The Swedes, who have higher labour costs that Ireland, recently built a national childrens hospital. It cost €2.1bn and it delivered 1,340 beds or a cost of €1.56m per bed. Our hospital to date is costing €2bn and it will deliver 473 beds or €4.43m per bed, almost three times what the Swedes done it for.

    Yet you are on here arguing that we aren't getting stitched up :rolleyes: would ya go away and sh1te, Fine Gael is paying way over the odds for this hospital and anyone who says they arent is just another party shill
    Quoted for bloody truth M.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Should be simple enough to assemble data on how many business closures and the cause of them no? Isn’t that what they do?

    Businesses close. The CSO have this data. But they wouldn't know the reasons why businesses close.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    The sun centering on Farrell this morning, and how he was pivotal on tackling insurance costs in the motor industry, while claiming for a whiplash injury.

    Alan Farrell called on Department of Finance to tackle rising insurance costs as he pushed for whiplash payout
    Farrell, a compo culture critic, brought a personal injuries claim against Hertz after a minor accident with one of their vehicles.

    Only in Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    The sun centering on Farrell this morning, and how he was pivotal on tackling insurance costs in the motor industry, .

    As a person who regularly has to manage motor insurance claims on behalf of my employer, I can confirm there was fcukall done about tackling insurance costs in the motor industry.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    As a person who regularly has to manage motor insurance claims on behalf of my employer, I can confirm there was fcukall done about tackling insurance costs in the motor industry.

    I can give a similar assurance for court costs, pleadings, barristers, professional indemnity and liability.
    Barristers have taken a hit in their fees that seems to be counterbalanced IMO by the sheer volume of work some are undertaking.
    Insurance cost, if an organisation is not in a position to self insure with a sufficient margin to ensure liquidity and confirmed by stress testing Insurance costs are becoming a huge operational cost.

    Many small and medium businesses are on the verge of Insurance becoming not only unaffordable but completely unsustainable if the current pricing models are continued.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,758 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    banie01 wrote: »
    Insurance cost, if an organisation is not in a position to self insure with a sufficient margin to ensure liquidity and confirmed by stress testing Insurance costs are becoming a huge operational cost.

    Many small and medium businesses are on the verge of Insurance becoming not only unaffordable but completely unsustainable if the current pricing models are continued.

    I'm sure you are aware but for the benefit of others in the thread, even those who are self-insured still need insurance. And like you say (in a round about way) being self-insured doesn't come cheap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    The sun centering on Farrell this morning, and how he was pivotal on tackling insurance costs in the motor industry, while claiming for a whiplash injury.

    Alan Farrell called on Department of Finance to tackle rising insurance costs as he pushed for whiplash payout


    Only in Ireland.

    You can only laugh at this stage. Anyone voting for these clowns deserves all that they get.

    Know two lads who did van courier work for the last few year's who have thrown in the towel now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,015 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Naturally.

    Only a complete fool would imagine that a Doctor and a young whippersnapper with a good Leaving Cert would know more about hospital construction costs than the professionally Qualified multi-disciplined Project Team set up to deliver the hospital.

    Obviously they believed the information that the former Chairman of the said Board provided to them. What choice had they?

    But they didn't know what was going on, that's the excuse wasn't it?
    And where was the Minister of Finance and young Simon in all this? Is your point that these ministers, Leo included are just hanging around and shouldn't be expected to know anything or be responsible for anything? Sounds like a great number. I can see why people would vote for them :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,475 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    I'm sure you are aware but for the benefit of others in the thread, even those who are self-insured still need insurance. And like you say (in a round about way) being self-insured doesn't come cheap.

    Thanks.
    I do often get into the habit of making assumptions when talking shop :(
    Of course Insurance is still needed and one cannot just decide that they are self insured and carry on as such.

    Apologies and thanks for clarifying for the thread :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    I’d say Leo and the spin dept are loving the majjella moynihan distraction


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Oh deary me, yet another politician is about to be outed for engaging in Irelands compo culture. Most people won't have heard of Deirdre Conroy but she is a newly elected councillor for Fianna Fail in Dublin 6, she was personally convinced to run for FF by Michael Martin himself.

    Deirdre is a qualified barrister and also a sometime journalist for the Irish Independent, specialising in travel writing. Back in 2016 Deirdre and four of her fellow hacks went on a free junket to go skiing in Andorra for a week. The junket was funded by Crystal Ski in exchange for a positive media coverage and articles about skiing in Andorra. Crystal Ski are Irelands largest winter holiday company with offices just off Grafton Street.

    Poor Deirdre didn't take too well to the skiing and on her first day she took a tumble and ended up fracturing her hip. Now despite the fact that most of us know that snow is slippy that doesnt stop our learned friend from filing High Court papers against Crystal Ski to the tune of €60,000 (sound familiar?)

    And just to cap it all off lads have a really wild guess on who was the solicitor who filed the High Court papers? There are no prizes for guessing correctly, I repeat, there are no prizes for guessing correctly.

    You literally could not make this sh1t up, yet here we are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Oh deary me, yet another politician is about to be outed for engaging in Irelands compo culture. Most people won't have heard of Deirdre Conroy but she is a newly elected councillor for Fianna Fail in Dublin 6, she was personally convinced to run for FF by Michael Martin himself.

    Deirdre is a qualified barrister and also a sometime journalist for the Irish Independent, specialising in travel writing. Back in 2016 Deirdre and four of her fellow hacks went on a free junket to go skiing in Andorra for a week. The junket was funded by Crystal Ski in exchange for a positive media coverage and articles about skiing in Andorra. Crystal Ski are Irelands largest winter holiday company with offices just off Grafton Street.

    Poor Deirdre didn't take too well to the skiing and on her first day she took a tumble and ended up fracturing her hip. Now despite the fact that most of us know that snow is slippy that doesnt stop our learned friend from filing High Court papers against Crystal Ski to the tune of €60,000 (sound familiar?)

    And just to cap it all off lads have a really wild guess on who was the solicitor who filed the High Court papers? There are no prizes for guessing correctly, I repeat, there are no prizes for guessing correctly.

    You literally could not make this sh1t up, yet here we are.

    The silence from FF on this issue speaks volumes. They don't want the journos taking too close a look at some of their own "creative earners"


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    And just to cap it all off lads have a really wild guess on who was the solicitor who filed the High Court papers? There are no prizes for guessing correctly, I repeat, there are no prizes for guessing correctly.

    Ah no way M.

    Just when I thought I had heard it all surrounding these dubious claims, and my anger was subsiding a bit.

    Who knows where this will end, I'd love to know who the lawyer was initiated this one.

    Now you've gone and got me all Mad agin. :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    this is the is the gift that keeps on giving.

    Any comment from NeeNaaw NeeNaaw Madigan yet?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Credit Checker Moose


    It's up in court on July 8th if anyone wants to go along for a gander.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Ah no way M.

    Just when I thought I had heard it all surrounding these dubious claims, and my anger was subsiding a bit.

    Who knows where this will end, I'd love to know who the lawyer was initiated this one.

    Now you've gone and got me all Mad agin. :mad:

    Well I know you're all mad agin Johnny but maybe take some time out to do some therapeutic carpentry, like Joseph of Nazereth :pac:

    Because she's back baby, throwing around High Court compo writs like confetti at a wedding :D Just for clarity though Madigan no longer has the case, after she filed the initial pleadings soon after in 2017 FFs Deirdre Conroy changed solicitor for reasons unknown.

    Josepha-Madigan.jpg

    Now here is the interesting bit- up until now Joespha Madigan has been refusing to answer questions about her involvement in the Maria Bailey case. She refuses to say whether or not she advised Bailey that she had "a clear cut case" and has hidden behind client confidentiality as her cover. We were told by FG hacks on here that Joespha practiced Family Law and there is no way that she would lower herself to that personal injury stuff.

    Well now that turns out to be a crock o' sh1te because Phoenix magazine is reporting, and I quote verbatim:
    Originally by Phoenix
    Ironically, the solicitor she (Deirdre Conroy) initially used to file her 2016 claim in the Four Goldmines was one Joespha Madigan, now a Fine Gael Minister and well known to Maria Bailey. Conroy changed to Charles W.Boyle & Co solicitors in September 2017

    Meanwhile, Crystal Holidays is set to fight Conroys claim and the parties are in the High Court next month for the next stage of their high-stakes ski run

    Now what that says to me is that Joespha Madigan personally signed the papers going into the High Court. The article states her name- it does not state Madigan & Co. Solcitors so there is now no hiding behind the company. We were told before that she practices Family Law only but that no longer appears to be the case and further questions on her involvement in the Maria Bailey case are now even more valid than they ever were.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I think I know what was delaying that report now.

    How must we look to people from outside the country looking in?

    Garda scandal's.

    Sporting organisations.

    Pat Hickey - John Delaney

    Politicians/legal profession,

    FFS we even had the heads of charities creaming the system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭McCrack


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Oh deary me, yet another politician is about to be outed for engaging in Irelands compo culture. Most people won't have heard of Deirdre Conroy but she is a newly elected councillor for Fianna Fail in Dublin 6, she was personally convinced to run for FF by Michael Martin himself.

    Deirdre is a qualified barrister and also a sometime journalist for the Irish Independent, specialising in travel writing. Back in 2016 Deirdre and four of her fellow hacks went on a free junket to go skiing in Andorra for a week. The junket was funded by Crystal Ski in exchange for a positive media coverage and articles about skiing in Andorra. Crystal Ski are Irelands largest winter holiday company with offices just off Grafton Street.

    Poor Deirdre didn't take too well to the skiing and on her first day she took a tumble and ended up fracturing her hip. Now despite the fact that most of us know that snow is slippy that doesnt stop our learned friend from filing High Court papers against Crystal Ski to the tune of €60,000 (sound familiar?)

    And just to cap it all off lads have a really wild guess on who was the solicitor who filed the High Court papers? There are no prizes for guessing correctly, I repeat, there are no prizes for guessing correctly.

    You literally could not make this sh1t up, yet here we are.

    Charles Boyle and Son Solicitors on record for her according the Courts.ie site


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,150 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    McCrack wrote: »
    Charles Boyle and Son Solicitors on record for her according the Courts.ie site

    they are now. take a look at the post 2 up from yours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,150 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Well I know you're all mad agin Johnny but maybe take some time out to do some therapeutic carpentry, like Joseph of Nazereth :pac:

    Because she's back baby, throwing around High Court compo writs like confetti at a wedding :D Just for clarity though Madigan no longer has the case, after she filed the initial pleadings soon after in 2017 FFs Deirdre Conroy changed solicitor for reasons unknown.



    Now here is the interesting bit- up until now Joespha Madigan has been refusing to answer questions about her involvement in the Maria Bailey case. She refuses to say whether or not she advised Bailey that she had "a clear cut case" and has hidden behind client confidentiality as her cover. We were told by FG hacks on here that Joespha practiced Family Law and there is no way that she would lower herself to that personal injury stuff.

    Well now that turns out to be a crock o' sh1te because Phoenix magazine is reporting, and I quote verbatim:



    Now what that says to me is that Joespha Madigan personally signed the papers going into the High Court. The article states her name- it does not state Madigan & Co. Solcitors so there is now no hiding behind the company. We were told before that she practices Family Law only but that no longer appears to be the case and further questions on her involvement in the Maria Bailey case are now even more valid than they ever were.

    Circuit court not high court. the circuit court limit is €60000


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    McCrack wrote: »
    Charles Boyle and Son Solicitors on record for her according the Courts.ie site

    What could possibly go wrong?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    McCrack wrote: »
    Charles Boyle and Son Solicitors on record for her according the Courts.ie site

    Yes, as in the post and reported by Phoenix- Joespha Madigan took the case in 2016 and filed High Court papers, then several months later Deirdre Conroy changed solicitor and the case was transferred to Charles Boyle & Co in Sept 2017.

    Madigans hands are still on this and now we have a report that she was practicing personal injury law despite describing herself as a Family Law practitioner.

    The claim itself is dubious at best, you know ski resorts tend to be slippy places and you can expect to fall lots and lots when you're learning how to ski. Even expert level skiers fall over, its part and parcel of the sport and it is said that if you are not falling over then you're not pushing yourself hard enough. I've been snowboarding for nigh on 15 years now and in that time I've suffered a ruptured coccyx, a broken wrist and a fractured collar bone. I got free first aid from the ski patrol lads and was treated very well in both French and Austrian hospitals, all for free with a E111 card which is available to all EU citizens for free and gives you medical care in a fellow EU country at no cost to yourself. That was the end of it for me, patched up, happy out and no stupid legal action chancing my arm.

    At no point did I ever think of suing the ski resort or operator for my injuries, its a ridiculous thought that you would sue a ski resort because you fell over. But its not beyond Joespha Madigan, she fired in a €60,000 High Court writ against Crystal Ski, an Irish company who employ several dozen people just there off Grafton Street. If they lose this case employees there are in danger of being made redundant, thats the reality of what all these trumped up compo claims come to.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,150 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Yes, as in the post and reported by Phoenix- Joespha Madigan took the case in 2016 and filed High Court papers, then several months later Deirdre Conroy changed solicitor and the case was transferred to Charles Boyle & Co in Sept 2017.

    Madigans hands are still on this and now we have a report that she was practicing personal injury law despite describing herself as a Family Law practitioner.

    The claim itself is dubious at best, you know ski resorts tend to be slippy places and you can expect to fall lots and lots when you're learning how to ski. Even expert level skiers fall over, its part and parcel of the sport and it is said that if you are not falling over then you're not pushing yourself hard enough. I've been snowboarding for nigh on 15 years now and in that time I've suffered a ruptured coccyx, a broken wrist and a fractured collar bone. I got free first aid from the ski patrol lads and was treated very well in both French and Austrian hospitals, all for free with a E111 card which is available to all EU citizens for free and gives you medical care in a fellow EU country at no cost to yourself. That was the end of it for me, patched up, happy out and no stupid legal action chancing my arm.

    At no point did I ever think of suing the ski resort or operator for my injuries, its a ridiculous thought that you would sue a ski resort because you fell over. But its not beyond Joespha Madigan, she fired in a €60,000 High Court writ against Crystal Ski, an Irish company who employ several dozen people just there off Grafton Street. If they lose this case employees there are in danger of being made redundant, thats the reality of what all these trumped up compo claims come to.

    what is it she is actually suing them for? what negligence is she alleging? that they forgot to tell her that skiing can be dangerous?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,610 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Circuit court not high court. the circuit court limit is €60000

    Sorry I should clarify- the report says that the case is being heard in the High Court and that the claim is for at least €60,000. Madigan probably told her she has a clear cut case too while Conway is probably looking for ways to wriggle out of it now.


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