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Philips Hue FAQ

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    #2312
    BoardsMember
    Registered Users Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭BoardsMember


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    Is there any way to use a hue dimmer switch to turn on/off a tp link smart plug? I have a lamp with a weird bulb, I'd like to be able to turn it in/off with a smart switch that already controls hue bulbs in the room.

    I ended up buying a couple of Innr Zigbee plugs that were really easy to add to my Hue app & set up, detail as follows:
    - I plugged in the smart plug, it was discoverable on the Hue app as a Bulb rather than a Smart Plug (without entering serial number or anything);
    - added the Bulb to a Room;
    - edited Scenes for that Room to set the new Bulb to be on/off

    That's it, now I can turn on the lamp using the smart switch that was already controlling the Scenes for the Room.

    Obviously, no dimming capability on the Innr Zigbee plug.


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    #2313
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Bought some White Ambiance GU10 a 4 for conservatory and 4 for the kitchen. Stupidly enough, didn’t know that recess lights come in varieties other than GU10 - the kitchen lights have two thin pins each (MR16).

    What is the best solution here? An electrician to change fitting to GU10? An adapter (without losing functionality)? Another smart brand that is compatible?


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    #2314
    Alkers
    Registered Users Posts: 6,811 ✭✭✭Alkers


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Bought some White Ambiance GU10 a 4 for conservatory and 4 for the kitchen. Stupidly enough, didn’t know that recess lights come in varieties other than GU10 - the kitchen lights have two thin pins each (MR16).

    What is the best solution here? An electrician to change fitting to GU10? An adapter (without losing functionality)? Another smart brand that is compatible?
    You can swap the fittings to gu10 yourself, no more difficult than wiring a plug.


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    #2315
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    Alkers wrote: »
    You can swap the fittings to gu10 yourself, no more difficult than wiring a plug.

    Thanks will look up a tutorial.


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    #2316
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    Thanks will look up a tutorial.

    You will need to remove the transformer if fitted as LV bulbs will have one at each light.....

    For the hue lamps you will need to get the 230v supply and make a new connection there for your GU10 tail ...


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    #2317
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    You will need to remove the transformer if fitted as LV bulbs will have one at each light.....

    For the hue lamps you will need to get the 230v supply and make a new connection there for your GU10 tail ...

    This looks to cover it?

    https://youtu.be/RlZvrCR7cZE


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    #2318
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    FutureGuy wrote: »
    This looks to cover it?

    https://youtu.be/RlZvrCR7cZE

    Yeah that's basically it, just be careful pulling down the fitting as the springs can pull down chunks of the ceiling plasterboard with it, just in case you haven't removed these before, slowly and try and keep springs pushed away from plaster as best you can....


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    #2319
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,227 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Yeah that's basically it, just be careful pulling down the fitting as the springs can pull down chunks of the ceiling plasterboard with it, just in case you haven't removed these before, slowly and try and keep springs pushed away from plaster as best you can....

    Yeah just moved in and figuring things out. Thanks. What’s the best place to buy the new quality fittings? Very new to this.


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    #2320
    Irish Gunner
    Registered Users Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    Looking at adding to Hue collection

    Would hue gu 10 fit into below fitting

    https://ibb.co/Vwygkvt

    Have not taken out bulb to check but we've just moved into house and plenty of these bulbs around the house.

    Have hue bulbs around house but no gu10 so looking at replacing them

    https://www.dublinarsenal.com/



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    #2321
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Irish Gunner wrote: »
    Looking at adding to Hue collection

    Would hue gu 10 fit into below fitting

    https://ibb.co/Vwygkvt

    Have not taken out bulb to check but we've just moved into house and plenty of these bulbs around the house.

    They look like GU10 LED's. I say that because I had the exact same bulbs.

    The new Hue GU10 colour bulbs are the same size as the Hue GU10 White Ambiance & White Only bulbs (as in the same size as regular non Hue GU10 bulbs).
    510941.png


    The old Hue GU10 colour bulbs were much larger and only fit into certain fitting types.
    510942.png

    So if going for colour, you'd be better off getting the newer 'smaller' version


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    #2322
    scamalert
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    Irish Gunner wrote: »
    Looking at adding to Hue collection

    Would hue gu 10 fit into below fitting

    https://ibb.co/Vwygkvt

    Have not taken out bulb to check but we've just moved into house and plenty of these bulbs around the house.

    Have hue bulbs around house but no gu10 so looking at replacing them
    have same ones in my kitchen, wont fit even the 3rd gen gu10 would be to long/large in width to held them properly in place as they would stick out, and that metal ring ensures extra tight grip to hold them in place as it goes quite few mm above to snap into holes.


    you would want to get these fittings or simililar: https://www.amazon.co.uk/LED-Downlight-Fitting-Recessed-Bathroom/dp/B075MGN7RT/ref=sr_1_32?crid=I84UKCLGSVVS&dchild=1&keywords=gu10+light+fitting&qid=1587898989&sprefix=gu10+light+fi%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-32


    but you still need to remove current fitting to see how much clearance you have above ceiling and then find right size as they come in couple different heights.


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    #2323
    Irish Gunner
    Registered Users Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Irish Gunner


    scamalert wrote: »
    have same ones in my kitchen, wont fit even the 3rd gen gu10 would be to long/large in width to held them properly in place as they would stick out, and that metal ring ensures extra tight grip to hold them in place as it goes quite few mm above to snap into holes.


    you would want to get these fittings or simililar: https://www.amazon.co.uk/LED-Downlight-Fitting-Recessed-Bathroom/dp/B075MGN7RT/ref=sr_1_32?crid=I84UKCLGSVVS&dchild=1&keywords=gu10+light+fitting&qid=1587898989&sprefix=gu10+light+fi%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-32


    but you still need to remove current fitting to see how much clearance you have above ceiling and then find right size as they come in couple different heights.

    Damn might leave it expensive enough to buy bulb as well as buying another part to fit them in

    https://www.dublinarsenal.com/



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    #2324
    scamalert
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    Irish Gunner wrote: »
    Damn might leave it expensive enough to buy bulb as well as buying another part to fit them in
    yes its a bit of investment depending how many you need but locally you can find those for around 10-15e/unit, once places open up.


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    #2325
    niallb
    Registered Users Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭niallb


    Irish Gunner wrote: »
    Looking at adding to Hue collection

    Would hue gu 10 fit into below fitting

    https://ibb.co/Vwygkvt

    We had a dozen bulbs with the same type of clip as that and they were GU4/MR11 rather than GU10.
    The difference is that they have two pointed pins on the end rather than flattened plugs.
    The biggest difference is that they ran off a 12V transformer in the attic,
    so not compatible without rewiring.

    Pinch the two ends of the wire clip together and the bulb will come out into your hand on a short tail of wire if it's the same setup.


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    #2326
    68 lost souls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    Not having much luck with hue lights. Looks like my floodlight has died. Unreachable on the app, another bulb about 2 meters away. Power on and off from the main switch and no movement on it. Not ideal from a €150 fitting


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    #2327
    NomadicGray
    Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    Any ideas on this lads?

    I got an email saying my Hue hub had been disconnected from my account and it hasnt worked since. All its status lights are on, its appearing on my home network, but no apps will connect to it or see it when I try a factory reset. I can also see the hub on meethue.com, it says its online
    Ive tried it through the phone, tablet and pc


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    #2328
    scamalert
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    NomadicGray wrote: »
    Any ideas on this lads?

    I got an email saying my Hue hub had been disconnected from my account and it hasnt worked since. All its status lights are on, its appearing on my home network, but no apps will connect to it or see it when I try a factory reset. I can also see the hub on meethue.com, it says its online
    Ive tried it through the phone, tablet and pc


    what way is your home network setup ? any switches etc ? or just default isp router, might be worth a shot plugging into different ethernet slot and doing factory reset on router- as if no devices see it seems like natural way to troubleshoot up the chain.


    as dunno what router you might be using but worth a check even at router settings to see if its visible on home network, might give idea if it got toast somehow or smth else triggered for it to disconnect from network somehow.


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    #2329
    68 lost souls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    68 lost souls wrote: »
    Not having much luck with hue lights. Looks like my floodlight has died. Unreachable on the app, another bulb about 2 meters away. Power on and off from the main switch and no movement on it. Not ideal from a €150 fitting

    Turns out the wiring had come loose, not sure how it was fine for 3 months and then came loose all of a sudden. Was worked in with choc-blocks provided. Wired it back up and the powered on switch, solved.


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    #2330
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    BoardsMember wrote: »
    I ended up buying a couple of Innr Zigbee

    Yep .. they're a good job. And they are 13A rated. If I recall correctly, the Hue equivalent is only rated 300W.
    Irish Gunner wrote: »
    Looking at adding to Hue collection

    Would hue gu 10 fit into below fitting

    https://ibb.co/Vwygkvt

    I have similar fittings in the bar. I'd say you be struggling to fit 3rd gen, but 4th gen will fit. Ikea Trådfri will also fit, but can't be got in color, when it's GU10.

    Now .. here's the culprit: it's real tight. I was fighting getting the darn things in there.

    In the end, I pulled the fitting out (it's just held in there with two spring loaded clips, that tilt, fitted the bulb in the fitting and then pushed the whole shebang back up together.

    Otherwise you'll be hours at it getting that metal retention spring to sit tight.

    /M


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    #2331
    vintagecosmos
    Registered Users Posts: 851 ✭✭✭vintagecosmos


    NomadicGray wrote: »
    Any ideas on this lads?

    I got an email saying my Hue hub had been disconnected from my account and it hasnt worked since. All its status lights are on, its appearing on my home network, but no apps will connect to it or see it when I try a factory reset. I can also see the hub on meethue.com, it says its online
    Ive tried it through the phone, tablet and pc

    Wouldn't be a first generation hub by any chance?


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    #2332
    mossie
    Registered Users Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭mossie


    NomadicGray wrote: »
    Any ideas on this lads?

    I got an email saying my Hue hub had been disconnected from my account and it hasnt worked since. All its status lights are on, its appearing on my home network, but no apps will connect to it or see it when I try a factory reset. I can also see the hub on meethue.com, it says its online
    Ive tried it through the phone, tablet and pc

    I had a problem last night where my app would only connect via the cloud even though I was on the same network as the hub. Resetting the app solved it for me but it's still behaving erratically.


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    #2333
    OU812
    Registered Users Posts: 6,035 ✭✭✭OU812


    Anyone got Hue outdoors? I'm re-doing the back garden and am sorely tempted, but the price is a hard sell with the wife against more traditional lighting.


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    #2334
    Nedved85
    Registered Users Posts: 1,769 ✭✭✭Nedved85


    OU812 wrote: »
    Anyone got Hue outdoors? I'm re-doing the back garden and am sorely tempted, but the price is a hard sell with the wife against more traditional lighting.

    I do,

    They are excellent. I was in the same boat, but I went for hue as I got the base system at a good price.

    I have the 3 Lily lights and Two Calla Lamps

    I bought the 3 LILY Lights - used like new from Amazon.co.uk for £165

    Callas extensions are €83 from Amazon.de

    https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Philips-Hue-Sockelleuchte-Aussenbereich-kompatibel/dp/B07BXT4NQT/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=philips%2Bhue%2Bcalla&qid=1588753814&sr=8-5&th=1

    The Calla Pedestals give the best light.

    Photos/videos do not do them justice.

    I found this helpful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS_o-wL4src


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    #2335
    AndyBoBandy
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 14,897 Mod ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    OU812 wrote: »
    Anyone got Hue outdoors? I'm re-doing the back garden and am sorely tempted, but the price is a hard sell with the wife against more traditional lighting.


    I have 5 Hue Lily spots out the back almost 2 years now, and they are great. They work flawlessly.


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    #2336
    NomadicGray
    Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    vintagecosmos wrote: »
    Wouldn't be a first generation hub by any chance?
    Second I think, the more square one, says 2.1 on the bottom.


    I plugged it directly in to the router and still nothing, no app seems to see it, though the meethue website still sees it online.
    Ill try a factory reset and a 3rd ethernet cable directly plugged in to the router when I can.
    I am missing my ambiance


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    #2337
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    NomadicGray wrote: »
    Second I think, the more square one, says 2.1 on the bottom.


    I plugged it directly in to the router and still nothing, no app seems to see it, though the meethue website still sees it online.
    Ill try a factory reset and a 3rd ethernet cable directly plugged in to the router when I can.
    I am missing my ambiance

    2.1 is the newest, so no problems there.

    Also, if the meethue website says, it's online, then your cable should be ok. What lights are lit ?

    Might just be the matter of resetting the app and then pairing it back up with the hub.

    /M


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    #2338
    NomadicGray
    Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    Marlow wrote: »
    2.1 is the newest, so no problems there.

    Also, if the meethue website says, it's online, then your cable should be ok. What lights are lit ?

    Might just be the matter of resetting the app and then pairing it back up with the hub.

    /M


    All 3 lights are on, so it looks business as usual from the outside. Ill try resetting all the apps first anyways, will do no harm


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    #2339
    NomadicGray
    Registered Users Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭NomadicGray


    After deleting the apps, a quick appeasement to the Machine Spirit and reinstalling on just one device all seems to be working again.
    Cheers for the help lads.


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    #2340
    punisher5112
    Registered Users Posts: 24,647 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    OU812 wrote: »
    Anyone got Hue outdoors? I'm re-doing the back garden and am sorely tempted, but the price is a hard sell with the wife against more traditional lighting.

    Buy ordinary fittings that take the led lamps... Much cheaper.


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    #2341
    Marlow
    Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Buy ordinary fittings that take the led lamps... Much cheaper.

    Nowhere near the same lumen though.

    The Lily is 600 lumen focused in one direction.
    The Lily XL is 1050 lumen focused in one direction.

    The only thing you can compare it to is the GU10 smart bulb and that's only 350 lumen. So you need 2 lamps and 2 bulbs to achieve the same light as a Lily. And you need 3 of each to achieve the same light as a Lily XL.

    Also: Life time of a Lily and Lily XL is 25000 hours. Life time of a GU10 Hue is 15000 hours.

    Your penny pinching is going to cost you on the other end for more hassle and still going to cost you the same over the life-time of the bulb or lamp. The bulb may even die earlier, because it's not designed for outdoor.

    /M


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