Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you heard of a competitive instinct? If Rory had no ambition, he wouldn't be out there week after week.

The end of his career is nigh indeed :rolleyes:

He has ambition - big ambition , and it is clear he has it this year. But the true competitive edge comes in majors. The top guys , have a completely different edge that week - they peak for them. They focus on them.

You can :rolleyes: all you like. But just watch thread over next few days. People will go on as if Rory will never win a major. Complete and utter nonsense.

I'll say it again - these events are like the league cup for these guys. Sky just listed lads who just took week off. Yes you are right , there are top guys who didn't even bother.

It is a problem with golf - we all still love watching golf. But that competitive edge is gone IMO. It is gone a little bit like the way soccer went. We are all on daft money, who cares. Majors a different story.

Remind me wrote: »

Why are 9 of the worlds top 10 playing?

Obviously , the higher the purse, the handier the cheque.

Then - so many of the top guys go due to whatever expectation is their from their sponsors. Club provider, ball, equipment, pro am, location, schedule.

But if you finish 2nd or 3rd this week - so what. You could pick up a win at some other point.

Now for Rory. Him finishing 1st or 8th - a fun week versus who cares. A fraction of his other incomes.

It has to make a difference to that edge. I'm watching golf a long time. Definelty that edge gone.

In fact the only good weeks are a breakthrough or first time winner. When the top 9 of the top 10 (as you say) are there , this factor is more magnified.

The lesser events can have better stories.

Yes we like watching the top players. But will Scott be emotional winning here ? would Rory be - not a chance.

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Yes I still like to watch good golf.

But - just the way modern golf is.

Top 50 are just so loaded. Has lost an edge. (IMO)

Couldn't be further from the truth. Go read Kimmage and Mcilory. Hes got 250 million in the bank. Go read how much losing hurts him.

It's the same with all these players. Their mindset after 20 years of trying to get to the top just stop with a pay cheque.

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Couldn't be further from the truth. Go read Kimmage and Mcilory. Hes got 250 million in the bank. Go read how much losing hurts him.

It's the same with all these players. Their mindset after 20 years of trying to get to the top just stop with a pay cheque.

Will this hurt Rory as much as a major :rolleyes:

Not to be today. That triple really took the wind out of him. Played well after that but didn’t make the putts when he gave himself plenty of chances. Still more positive signs for the year ahead.

Finished 2nd in Mexico last year so I’d expect another high finish.

I see Fix is talking nonsense once again. Not for the first time.

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Obviously , the higher the purse, the handier the cheque.

Then - so many of the top guys go due to whatever expectation is their from their sponsors. Club provider, ball, equipment, pro am, location, schedule.

But if you finish 2nd or 3rd this week - so what. You could pick up a win at some other point.

Now for Rory. Him finishing 1st or 8th - a fun week versus who cares. A fraction of his other incomes.

It has to make a difference to that edge. I'm watching golf a long time. Definelty that edge gone.

In fact the only good weeks are a breakthrough or first time winner. When the top 9 of the top 10 (as you say) are there , this factor is more magnified.

The lesser events can have better stories.

Yes we like watching the top players. But will Scott be emotional winning here ? would Rory be - not a chance.

What edge has gone?

Do you really think Rory, Tiger, DJ care less than Faldo, Nicklaus etc...?

Look at GMac winning in Saudi and what it meant to him, major winner, multiple wins, millions in the bank.

Money in all sport has multiplied massively, I actually can’t think of 1 where it hasn’t. I can’t see where it has taken the edge off things.

Remind me wrote: »

Plenty of them have his competitive edge, not many have his ability, big difference. Look at Harrington.

Would have to agree with you on Paddy.

Life changing - look at reaction - up to 55 million , thank god he got over that summit. :P

Remind me wrote: »

What edge has gone?

Do you really think Rory, Tiger, DJ care less than Faldo, Nicklaus etc...?

Look at GMac winning in Saudi and what it meant to him, major winner, multiple wins, millions in the bank.

Money in all sport has multiplied massively, I actually can’t think of 1 where it hasn’t. I can’t see where it has taken the edge off things.

Yes you need a good story - first time winner , a come back. They make an event. Maybe Tiger or Rory at top.

I've watched so many sports over the years. If you can't see that , There is nothing I can do.

Here is the money list in middle of February.

https://www.cbssports.com/golf/rankings/money-list/

It is incredible.

In the context of that money list - and another event around the corner just as big. It is just another pay day, another week.

It is only at majors for me now - as it is when I see the true players come to the top.

fullstop wrote: »

Money list is obscene TBF. I remember a time, not that long ago, that winning over a million in a season was only for the top 2 or 3. Now we have $4m in February.

This is it for me.

The top top game has changed.

Like the premier players at another level. It fundamentally has altered the tour events.

Because they have a world schedule - and only go to the big big ones all together. They then earn so much - they don't even need to go to the big big events all the time.

I only want to watch the events with the top players - but the two tours have more of a hierarchy to them these days - so breakthroughs and all the pros playing in the same event/tour at different levels is less a feature.

That edge of the seat Sunday , with a first time winner up against Scott for a million when it was important , were special days on the tour.

If someone is trying to say , that was competitive, edge of seat, important.
Then , actaully abusing me because I express that opinion.

I don't see the point in explaining it.

At this point in golf - majors or nothing for me. I think Rory is the same and has been for a while. Koepka certainty is anyway.

Again - nice to watch top golfers play great golf. But it isn't real "pressure" as they talk of on Sky. It isn't that important at the end of the day.

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

This is it for me.

The top top game has changed.

Like the premier players at another level. It fundamentally has altered the tour events.

Because they have a world schedule - and only go to the big big ones all together. They then earn so much - they don't even need to go to the big big events all the time.

I only want to watch the events with the top players - but the two tours have more of a hierarchy to them these days - so breakthroughs and all the pros playing in the same event/tour at different levels is less a feature.

That edge of the seat Sunday , with a first time winner up against Scott for a million when it was important , were special days on the tour.

If someone is trying to say , that was competitive, edge of seat, important.
Then , actaully abusing me because I express that opinion.

I don't see the point in explaining it.

At this point in golf - majors or nothing for me. I think Rory is the same and has been for a while. Koepka certainty is anyway.

Again - nice to watch top golfers play great golf. But it isn't real "pressure" as they talk of on Sky. It isn't that important at the end of the day.

Don’t think anyone is saying that was edge of the seat stuff but it was certainly competitive, there was 15 odd players within a few shots of the lead for a long time and it was very enjoyable during the front 9 when things were chopping and changing.

No one will disagree with you that the majors are the pinnacle. Every sport has its pinnacle and rightly so. I completely disagree with you saying there is no pressure or that they don’t care about regular events.

theballz wrote: »

He is the ultimate bottler.

Did tiger bottle it?

Harsh comment. 1 bad hole and he's a bottler?

Remind me wrote: »

Don’t think anyone is saying that was edge of the seat stuff but it was certainly competitive, there was 15 odd players within a few shots of the lead for a long time and it was very enjoyable during the front 9 when things were chopping and changing.

No one will disagree with you that the majors are the pinnacle. Every sport has its pinnacle and rightly so. I completely disagree with you saying there is no pressure or that they don’t care about regular events.

I'd have to agree don't care is wrong. And events like this did my head in with Rory in the past - you could see he wasn't trying that hard. At least you could see his effort today.

They are certainly less important for the pros.
If they are less important for the pros , they are less important to me also.

At least in the past , they were chasing the money. I genuinely believe this is a little less of a factor due to the nature of the top game these days. The number of big cash events are so frequent - you have another go , literally the following week. Their sponsorship deals are also incredible , off course stuff also.

So the way I see it anyway.

Deleted User wrote: »

See you in April so, the rest of us who aren't fickle will be following the exploits of Rory in the interim.

No need to be so smart.

I said I like watching the top pros play golf. But I'm not delusional about the importance to their career or how it impacts on majors.

Likes of Koepka would rip Scotts head off in a head to head in a major.
Didn't even feature there.