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    #4292
    tintin67
    Registered Users Posts: 341 ✭✭tintin67


    Hopefully this 3 bedroom apartment in Dublin city centre is only being offered on a month-by-month basis because the council are looking to buy a 5 bedroom house for her in Foxrock as close to her new best pal Miriam O'Callaghan as possible, preferably right next door. It would be delicious.


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    #4293
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Chinasea wrote: »
    This is a slap in the face to all the hard working responsible tax payers in this country.

    We are losing valueable hardworking tax paying individuals (who are sponsoring Ms Cash's irresponsible dysfunctional lifestyle) from our workforce who simply cannot afford to live and work in our citities.

    Last month alone in the company I work for, two long standing of 14 years plus in Ireland, left to go home to their country as they simply could not afford the high rent and cramped inferior living conditions.

    This has caused anger and is yet another manifestation of the housing crisis. But let us not forget either the actions of groups of nimbyist snobs (also known as 'residents associations') who with the support of local politicians looking for votes, campaign to delay and block new housing developments in Dublin. Worried that their 'lovely views', the 'tone of the area' might be affected etc. Utter hypocrites. These pr*cks are far more responsible for the current problems IMO than Ms Cash.


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    #4294
    HappyAsLarE
    Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    Giz a free gaff boss


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    #4295
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Dannyriver wrote: »
    If you are Raising 7 kids you are working.

    Hardly. If you're in a relationship where you're raising the 7 children, while your husband (or reverse the genders) is working to provide the income required... then she is working.

    If you're long-term unemployed (and not seeking employment), with 7 children, single, ... then you're twisting the system to your own benefit. That's not working. That kind of behavior should be stamped out.

    Effective parenting can be hard work.

    However it is only contributing to society if the children grow into responsible hard working citizens.

    There is zero chance this will happen at the moment and so therefore she should not be so lavishly rewarded.

    The parents struggling to get two kids back to school, yeah they should be but not the me me me class.


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    #4296
    Dannyriver
    Registered Users Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Dannyriver


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hardly. If you're in a relationship where you're raising the 7 children, while your husband (or reverse the genders) is working to provide the income required... then she is working.

    If you're long-term unemployed (and not seeking employment), with 7 children, single, ... then you're twisting the system to your own benefit. That's not working. That kind of behavior should be stamped out.

    Raising 7 children means you are working regardless of whether you are single /married . Circumstances do not change this fact.


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    #4297
    Pkiernan
    Registered Users Posts: 4,315 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    She's all set up now to plop out 7 more.
    God bless Irish Lefties


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    #4298
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,905 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    We need a Government of centre right with an overall majority right now. Charlie H, remember him? before anyone gets in straightaway!

    Seriously, if we want reform, it is not going to happen with FF nipping at the heels and a mixum gatherum of indos opposing everything or demanding much more than their numbers allow.

    if FG were if full power, this shyte would no longer happen, and the working person, those who get up early in the morning to contribute to society would get first dibs.

    Time for change now, the pendulum has swung too far towards the leftie liberals. And every single media outlet either print, tv, radio or online is complicit in this sham.

    Up the workers and contributers, we have rights too!

    (tongue in cheek but there is a smidgin of truth there just the same).


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    #4299
    CrankyHaus
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,281 ✭✭✭CrankyHaus


    Did anyone else develop a sneaking regard for Ms Cash from the Radio Interview earlier.
    The way soft-soap Miriam kept throwing her a bone and she'd just shoot it down.
    To paraphrase:

    "So are you considering going back to work or education?"

    An obvious cue to spin some total guff about an aspiration to study rocket science.

    "No"

    I had to laugh at that one.
    It reminded me of seeing Lowry or the Healy Raes at their most shameless.


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    #4300
    Dannyriver
    Registered Users Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Dannyriver


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Effective parenting can be hard work.

    However it is only contributing to society if the children grow into responsible hard working citizens.

    There is zero chance this will happen at the moment and so therefore she should not be so lavishly rewarded.

    The parents struggling to get two kids back to school, yeah they should be but not the me me me class.

    'Zero chance' Jaysus you re some man for the unequivocals


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    #4301
    22michael44
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭22michael44


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Yes it is if you do it right and rear kids to be productive and self sufficient .,Parenting takes time and patience if you want to see a mature , independent , tax paying hard working child

    ok glad we cleared that up


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    #4302
    [Deleted User]
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    Gatling wrote: »
    But it's only on a trial basis .

    By the sounds of it they don't expect her to last ,I reckon we will be hearing about an eviction for antisocial behaviour and how it's not fair in the next few weeks or months.


    And then she will ask where her house is

    She’s got her eye on a boarded up 4 bedroom house in Clondalking.


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    #4303
    goose2005
    Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    jjmcclure wrote: »
    Just to highlight who pays for these people who won't work and are entitled to everything and to highlight my point on taxation earlier (everyone should pay something).


    A worker on €120,000:
    Earns 6.7 times the amount of a person on €18,000 and pays over 83 times the amount of tax.
    Earns almost 4.8 times the salary of a person on €25,000 but pays 14.8 times the tax.
    Earns almost 3.4 times the salary of a person on €35,000 but pays 7.6 times the tax.


    A worker on 18k pays just over €500 in tax

    Income tax is not the only tax - it only makes up about 20-25% of state income.


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    #4304
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    CrankyHaus wrote: »
    Did anyone else develop a sneaking regard for Ms Cash from the Radio Interview earlier.
    The way soft-soap Miriam kept throwing her a bone and she'd just shoot it down.
    To paraphrase:

    "So are you considering going back to work or education?"

    "No"

    I had to laugh at that one.
    It reminded me of seeing Lowry or the Healy Raes at their most shameless.

    Really ??? Jaysus so brazen

    And her kids will turn out into hard working law abiding taxpayers??? And ill be cast as Kylie's arse double.


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    #4305
    [Deleted User]
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    Dannyriver wrote: »
    Raising 7 children means you are working regardless of whether you are single /married . Circumstances do not change this fact.

    Waste of time trying to discuss anything with you.
    Dannyriver wrote: »
    'Zero chance' Jaysus you re some man for the unequivocals

    "Circumstances do not change this fact"

    LOL. Funny.


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    #4306
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Dannyriver wrote: »
    I'd question your right to judge her and her kids.

    Didn't judge her kids, get that right straight off the bat. However, it's my right to judge her as I'm paying for her gaff and her lifestyle and judge her I bloody well will. I work 12 hour days in a hostile environment looking after the worst and most dangerous in society. In the coming months, I'll be leaving the house when it's dark and coming back when it's dark. I'll be working Christmas Day. So don't you tell me I've no right to judge someone leeching off my hard work when she has never put in a graft in her life nor ever will. You make make me sick. It's your ilk excusing this, make no bones about that. I, like many other, take pride in actually earning a living.


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    #4307
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Dannyriver wrote: »
    Raising 7 children means you are working regardless of whether you are single /married . Circumstances do not change this fact.

    Being a parent doesn't necessarily mean you are parenting.


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    #4308
    erica74
    Registered Users Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    Dannyriver wrote: »
    'Zero chance' Jaysus you re some man for the unequivocals

    And you're some man for wearing blinkers


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    #4309
    Dannyriver
    Registered Users Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Dannyriver


    na1 wrote: »
    Would you concern about financial and personal life difficulties the person had to overcome before he/she end up with 1,000,000 income?

    In most cases it's a life choices:
    one person studies hard, works nights & weekends, do an internship while working etc
    another person has parties, drinks, living a careless live.
    And then you would say: tax the first person because he/she already rich and could afford 75% tax. And give that money to the second person because he/she is in financial difficulties and requires a state support.

    A person who parties/drinks all the time has anything but a 'careless live' . Life expectancy in social welfare communities is much lower than in middle class/upper class communities. What do you think is happening everyone running around partying and laughing at the middle classes without a care in the world?


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    #4310
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Dannyriver wrote: »
    I'd question your right to judge her and her kids.

    Didn't judge her kids, get that right straight off the bat. However, it's my right to judge her as I'm paying for her gaff and her lifestyle and judge her I bloody well will. I work 12 hour days in a hostile environment looking after the worst and most dangerous in society. In the coming months, I'll be leaving the house when it's dark and coming back when it's dark. I'll be working Christmas Day. So don't you tell me I've no right to judge someone leeching off my hard work when she has never put in a graft in her life nor ever will. You make make me sick. It's your ilk excusing this, make no bones about that. I, like many other, take pride in actually earning a living.

    And whilst I think dealing with third level students is bad - your job leaves mine in the ha'penny place!!!!


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    #4311
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Dannyriver wrote: »
    Raising 7 children means you are working regardless of whether you are single /married . Circumstances do not change this fact.

    Maybe not for you and your hero Blindboy, the great ultra feminist bag-headed one that he is. For us out here in the real world, it makes a difference. Earn your salt. No bother with anyone getting a helping hand when they need it. When they deserve it. When you're a glorified conveyor belt for kids with no intention of contributing anything ever... and I'm footing your bill, it makes a difference. A 3 Bed apartment in Dublin City? If I didn't laugh, I'd cry.


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    #4312
    Dannyriver
    Registered Users Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Dannyriver


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Didn't judge her kids, get that right straight off the bat. However, it's my right to judge her as I'm paying for her gaff and her lifestyle and judge her I bloody well will. I work 12 hour days in a hostile environment looking after the worst and most dangerous in society. In the coming months, I'll be leaving the house when it's dark and coming back when it's dark. I'll be working Christmas Day. So don't you tell me I've no right to judge someone leeching off my hard work when she has never put in a graft in her life nor ever will. You make make me sick. It's your ilk excusing this, make no bones about that. I, like many other, take pride in actually earning a living.

    Maybe you need a break from work then, you sound like someone who shouldn t be doing that kind work ...burnout happens to us all. Apologies in advance if I ve judged you unfairly.


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    #4313
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    erica74 wrote: »
    And you're some man for wearing blinkers

    It's probably a Spar bag like his woke bae wears.


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    #4314
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Dannyriver wrote: »
    Raising 7 children means you are working regardless of whether you are single /married . Circumstances do not change this fact.

    Maybe not for you and your hero Blindboy, the great ultra feminist bag-headed one that he is. For us out here in the real world, it makes a difference. Earn your salt. No bother with anyone getting a helping hand when they need it. When they deserve it. When you're a glorified conveyor belt for kids with no intention of contributing anything ever... and I'm footing your bill, it makes a difference. A 3 Bed apartment in Dublin City? If I didn't laugh, I'd cry.

    Btw - bit of a check on Daft. Ie - cheapest 3 bed in city centre? Over 2 grand a month.


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    #4315
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Dannyriver wrote: »
    Raising 7 children means you are working regardless of whether you are single /married . Circumstances do not change this fact.

    Maybe not for you and your hero Blindboy, the great ultra feminist bag-headed one that he is. For us out here in the real world, it makes a difference. Earn your salt. No bother with anyone getting a helping hand when they need it. When they deserve it. When you're a glorified conveyor belt for kids with no intention of contributing anything ever... and I'm footing your bill, it makes a difference. A 3 Bed apartment in Dublin City? If I didn't laugh, I'd cry.

    Btw - bit of a check on Daft. Ie - cheapest 3 bed in city centre? Over 2 grand a month.


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    #4316
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Dannyriver wrote: »
    A person who parties/drinks all the time has anything but a 'careless live' . Life expectancy in social welfare communities is much lower than in middle class/upper class communities. What do you think is happening everyone running around partying and laughing at the middle classes without a care in the world?

    I don't know about you but I'm bloody working class. It means I work. That's what it used to mean. That's what it should mean. Having a job doesn't make you part of some social elite or upper echelon. F*ck this line of thinking. Tripe.


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    #4317
    22michael44
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭22michael44


    i think Cash might have the right idea because if being a working taxpayer means going through life with this much hatred and resentment pent up inside you, it can't be worth it.


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    #4318
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Dannyriver wrote: »
    Maybe you need a break from work then, you sound like someone who shouldn t be doing that kind work ...burnout happens to us all. Apologies in advance if I ve judged you unfairly.

    The condescending nature of this post says a lot


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    #4319
    22michael44
    Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭22michael44


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I don't know about you but I'm bloody working class. It means I work. That's what it used to mean. That's what it should mean. Having a job doesn't make you part of some social elite or upper echelon. F*ck this line of thinking. Tripe.

    if that were true then being unemployed would exclude a person from being working class. you know that not to be true. and if it ever was, it was a long long time ago.


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    #4320
    padd b1975
    Registered Users Posts: 10,704 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    She’s got her eye on a boarded up 4 bedroom house in Clondalking.

    Also on an end of terrace that the taxpayer could easily extend for her and her brood.


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    #4321
    mfceiling
    Registered Users Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    22michael44 wrote: »
    I've heard loads of perfectly good parents - mothers, fathers - saying that parenting is massively hard work. that's a bit of a silly statement you've made.

    It is hard work.

    It's even harder when you have to go out to work every day to make sure there is a roof over their heads, clothes on their back and food on the table.

    Not really a concern of Ms Cash who kept having children despite not having any way of funding this choice. But it's ok cause the state is there to pick up her tab.


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