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CoVid19 Part XIV - 8,089 in ROI (288 deaths) 1,589 in NI (92 deaths) (10/04) Read OP

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    #5522
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,287 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    NewbridgeIR wrote: »
    Some top class virtue signalling here

    https://twitter.com/stephie08/status/1247782321584930820

    Stephanie in fairness has a long history of it, peak middle class activism mixed with 1950s Church righteousness.

    The people from D4 going to West Cork are probably her relatives.


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    #5523
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Why is the covid unemployment payment 350 but regular unemployment is about 150. If they think 150 is not enough why don't they increase it?

    350 was to make it attractive for people to stop working


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    #5524
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    bekker wrote: »
    508792.png

    And a good day to you, sir!


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    #5525
    timmy_mallet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭timmy_mallet


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    It was a question asked of the garda commissioner this afternoon about what if people are already in a house down the country and he said that's now your legal residence until the end of the weekend at the earliest. Same restrictions apply. Not much point in anyone who's already in a house leaving to go home now. Their stupidity means the damage is already done

    Damage, stupidity? I'd argue mild amounts of travel like this beneficial in the long run.


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    #5526
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Ficheall wrote: »
    What do you reckon is a good measure then, aside from numbers pulled from your hoop?


    And can you please link again to the post where you provided a source for your "less than 1% death rate"? I can't seem to find it in this fast-moving thread..

    Sure have a read of this https://www.livescience.com/death-rate-lower-than-estimates.html

    Our taoiseach said we would likely be at 15000 over 8 days ago. We are only at 5700 now. That would suggest that the Irish people are doing a great job at slowing the spread.

    But I'm sure that wont sit well with you negative view. Keep peeping through your curtains looking for faults in how people are going about their day. Don't forget to report them tho.


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    #5527
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Celia Sweet Snowmobile wrote: »
    How is there so many nursing home cases? Aren't people not allowed visits currently?

    Visits have been stopped since about a month ago. Transmission will be from healthcare workers/other staff. Then once a couple of people in the nursing home have it it will slowly spread to others over a couple of weeks.


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    #5528
    gabeeg
    Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    timmy_mallet wrote: »
    Damage, stupidity? I'd argue mild amounts of travel like this beneficial in the long run.

    Please! I'm sure we'd all love to hear how "mild" amounts of travel is helpful when trying to stop a killer virus spreading.

    Please continue, the floor is yours


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    #5529
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    But they may be force to stay there - so no work next week
    No, they covered that angle, powers gone Sunday, apparently don't want to be seen to inconvenience that selfishly entitled cohort.


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    #5530
    gabeeg
    Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Sure have a read of this https://www.livescience.com/death-rate-lower-than-estimates.html

    Our taoiseach said we would likely be at 15000 over 8 days ago. We are only at 5700 now. That would suggest that the Irish people are doing a great job at slowing the spread.

    But I'm sure that wont sit well with you negative view. Keep peeping through your curtains looking for faults in how people are going about their day. Don't forget to report them tho.

    Tell me this - if we performed just 10 tests today and they all came back negative, would you be declaring the all clear?


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    #5531
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Why is the covid unemployment payment 350 but regular unemployment is about 150. If they think 150 is not enough why don't they increase it?

    Regular unemployment isn't 150.

    If you've had a full-time job and associated costs (mortgage etc.) then it's not going to be as easy to manage a step down to the regular levels of Jobseekers Allowance.


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    #5532
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    We need a more restrictive police state. The little people need to know who is boss, stupid peasants. More unconstitutional soviet style restrictions please. People won't behave until we emeulate the USSR circa 1950. Liquidate the Kulaks.


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    #5533
    minggatu
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭minggatu


    duffman13 wrote: »
    I dont think anyone does really.

    Norway is probably our closest comparison all be it we are about a two weeks behind them roughly. I would watch them and see what happens tbh, that and obviously Austria who have announced partial reviews of their shutdown.

    We can learn from these and go with it.


    I agree Look at this map


    https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona-virus-karte-infektionen-deutschland-weltweit/


    Ireland will be a lot greener at the end of next week


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    #5534
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Our taoiseach said we would likely be at 15000 over 8 days ago. We are only at 5700 now. That would suggest that the Irish people are doing a great job at slowing the spread.
    K, the taoiseach's figures were pulled out of his arse(more likely the HSEs), with near zero basis in reality. The testing has been a farce and is not fit for purpose, so any figures are largely meaningless, when the figures finally come with the delay of up to two weeks. Look to deaths. That and ICU numbers are the only numbers we can have any confidence in.

    Sure, we're doing a better job than the UK, but they screwed up massively. Just comparing oneself to an idiot only makes one a lesser idiot, not a genius. If we compare ourselves to the Czechs who did a much better job, we'd have around fifty dead now, not over two hundred. We're in the top ten worldwide for percentage dead per million. And that's with the major advantage of having one of the lowest population densities in the western world.

    So no K, the Irish people and certainly the government and the HSE aren't doing such a great job when compared to others doing a better one.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #5535
    zinfandel
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭zinfandel


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Why is the covid unemployment payment 350 but regular unemployment is about 150. If they think 150 is not enough why don't they increase it?

    because half the country would sit on their tod doing nothing...


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    #5536
    d51984
    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭d51984


    When people are rushing to post todays figures first, remember, there not just numbers your posting, they are peoples lifes.

    Its someones Mother, someones Father, someones Son, Someones Daughter, Someones Brother, Someones Sister. Each number is a person.

    Our Father, which art in heaven,
    Hallowed be thy Name;
    Thy kingdom come;
    Thy will be done
    in earth, as it is in heaven:
    Give us this day our daily bread;
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    as we forgive them that trespass against us;
    And lead us not into temptation,
    But deliver us from evil

    Amen.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



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    #5537
    D.Q
    Registered Users Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    d51984 wrote: »
    When people are rushing to post todays figures first, remember, there not just numbers your posting, they are peoples lifes.

    Its someones Mother, someones Father, someones Son, Someones Daughter, Someones Brother, Someones Sister. Each number is a person.

    Our Father, which art in heaven,
    Hallowed be thy Name;
    Thy kingdom come;
    Thy will be done
    in earth, as it is in heaven:
    Give us this day our daily bread;
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    as we forgive them that trespass against us;
    And lead us not into temptation,
    But deliver us from evil

    Amen.

    **** sake hahahaha


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    #5538
    petes
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    D.Q wrote: »
    **** sake hahahaha

    Twat, their Uncle just died from this.


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    #5539
    branie2
    Registered Users Posts: 10,292 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    D.Q wrote: »
    **** sake hahahaha

    It's a prayer for us!


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    #5540
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Please! I'm sure we'd all love to hear how "mild" amounts of travel is helpful when trying to stop a killer virus spreading.

    Please continue, the floor is yours

    The plan is to slow the spread, not to stop it.


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    #5541
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    usual time for the presser?


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    #5542
    d51984
    Registered Users Posts: 927 ✭✭✭d51984


    Didnt mean offence by the quick our father, not a holy person myself, but Im Irish and was brought up here.

    Its a disgrace Joe!



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    #5543
    Strumms
    Registered Users Posts: 24,829 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    wakka12 wrote: »

    46 of the 828 patients in England who died had no known health conditions

    Just slightly over 5% of those who died. Probably encouraging if anything. I know that’s weird saying that as 46 died in that circumstance but in terms of the bigger picture, the overall numbers. Probably a couple also maybe had underlying conditions that had not been diagnosed.


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    #5544
    bekker
    Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    We need a more restrictive police state. The little people need to know who is boss, stupid peasants. More unconstitutional soviet style restrictions please. People won't behave until we emeulate the USSR circa 1950. Liquidate the Kulaks.
    If you wish to make snide remarks at least get your facts correct the measures are not unconstitutional.

    If you really believed so you could have quoted the appropriate article.

    You apparently have no concept of what a police state involves. Measures aimed a small cohort of self-entitled selfish individuals endangering the health and lives of many others does not constitute a 'police-state'.

    Suggest you have a few conversations with people who have actually experienced living in a police-state, and you'd soon realise the difference, then again, possibly not.


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    #5545
    NewbridgeIR
    Registered Users Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭NewbridgeIR


    Danzy wrote: »
    Stephanie in fairness has a long history of it, peak middle class activism mixed with 1950s Church righteousness.

    The people from D4 going to West Cork are probably her relatives.


    A familiar angry face - although I think she considers herself working class.
    "Sometimes anti-social. Always anti-fascist."


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    #5546
    dryadssaddle
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭dryadssaddle


    Would anyone here be able to point me in the direction of finding a an up to date definitive answer on travelling for a funeral of a family member? I have contacted my local Garda Station, the Garda Traffic Corps Headquarters, the IAFD and searched through Gov.ie and cannot find an answer. The lady in the IAFD did state however that if i was not able to travel over 2km regardless of who passed away as it isn't consider essential travel. That to me seems crazy and ill-informed, that I could freely exceed 2km to a shop for teabags but cannot for a family funeral. Perhaps she's correct though, I don't know.


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    #5547
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Tell me this - if we performed just 10 tests today and they all came back negative, would you be declaring the all clear?

    No because id say its a pretty poor sample. Testing 2000 people with symptoms is a very good sample. Especially when only 6% of them come back positive.


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    #5548
    loughside
    Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside


    https://twitter.com/Nick468official/status/1247865108577034240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1247865108577034240&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Flive%2Fuk-northern-ireland-52158865

    Limerick, what the feck are you playing at, is it a Bank holiday there??


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    #5549
    tromtipp
    Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭tromtipp


    bekker wrote: »
    No, they covered that angle, powers gone Sunday, apparently don't want to be seen to inconvenience that selfishly entitled cohort.
    The powers can be extended. If they had extended beyond Sunday they would have stretched beyond the end of this lockdown, which ends on Sunday.


    If (yes, I know that when is more realistic) the lockdown is extended on Friday, the powers probably will be too.


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    #5550
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    nj27 wrote: »
    I've been wondering that myself. It seems to me that if you're likely to catch the virus walking past people on the street etc then it would be basically impossible to stop it spreading without martial law. I don't think it spreads quite as easily as that, given the number of cases we have relative to what you'd expect if it hopped from person to person during a brief encounter. That's not to say a cough in your direction, or onto a surface you later touch, couldn't result in you catching it.

    I think the main reason for anger at people for going to parks etc is that once you have people gather in any area the chances are you'll have groups of people sitting together (possible with a bag of tins) and basically replacing the now closed socialising environments with the country's green spaces which really defeats the purpose of these measures.

    Surely if you go sit in a park, you can't wash your hands as much.


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    #5551
    Multipass
    Registered Users Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    It was a question asked of the garda commissioner this afternoon about what if people are already in a house down the country and he said that's now your legal residence until the end of the weekend at the earliest. Same restrictions apply. Not much point in anyone who's already in a house leaving to go home now. Their stupidity means the damage is already done

    That should be their residence now until the end of the lockdown. It’s made a joke of the whole thing.


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